BrassMonkey1010
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Fugu said:
Oh yea, I can't get Civ 3 to run on vista. I bought it through steam and it still wont work...
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Microsoft confirms no PC Alan Wake: Reasoning? "LOL, COMFY COUCH".
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Oh yea, I can't get Civ 3 to run on vista. I bought it through steam and it still wont work...
Fifteen minutes is a huge headache? That's pathetic.Anticitizen One said:
I tried to play Might and Magic 7 today. This game is notorious for compatibility problems. I googled "Might and Magic 7 windows 7". I was told to use hardware acceleration with no 3d sound. What do you know, it works. And if it didn't work, I was presented with an alternate solution involving a fan patch. That took five minutes, and that's only because I stopped to read a bit about the game.
Say you want to play a game that isn't immediately backwards compatible with your console of choice -- they do exist. What are your options? Hope [insert console dev here] releases a patch? Buy the console that that game was originally developed for? Murderous rampage?
What's it tell you? Works great for me, I've played it recently. I don't like Civ 4.BrassMonkey1010 said:
No, he's definitely the only one. Just read this thread. The only. One.
BTW, Amazon should have that new Ace Attorney game for me tomorrow so I might forgo this wonderful thread. We'll see!
edit: Now that I think about it, I think I'll be sending it right back. As a card-carrying PC gamer, I'd rather rip out my eyes than play in 720p; How on earth am I going to handle 192p?
BTW, Amazon should have that new Ace Attorney game for me tomorrow so I might forgo this wonderful thread. We'll see!
edit: Now that I think about it, I think I'll be sending it right back. As a card-carrying PC gamer, I'd rather rip out my eyes than play in 720p; How on earth am I going to handle 192p?
Ultimo hombre
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Einbroch said:
Nope same here. My PC is great but I only use it for HoN.
Joseph Merrick
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oh snapFugu said:
Anticitizen One said:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128197&page=1&
Oh jeez that was SOOOO hard!
If you can't take 5 seconds to use Google maybe you should just avoid the Internet altogether.
Tell me, having any luck getting Yoshi's Island working through Virtual Console?
rollingstart
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Einbroch said:
I can't say full stop that I prefer all games on PC. For example, I don't get fighting or music games on PC because those are more social experiences or something. For single player games I'd say 10/10 times I'd get them on PC. Racing game also can be either/or.
I've said it before and my preference is PC gaming, but consoles do have advantages, especially if you do local multiplayer.
I'd also say that if there was a multiplayer game, like say Borderlands or MW2, on a console and I knew a couple IRL friends were getting it, I might go for that version. In the end it's about enjoying the game.
BuddhaRockstar
Member
I can't believe people are arguing game compatibility against PC gaming. Are you really going to make the old Apple argument that PCs are just too complicated?
Seriously, this is what you sound like when you argue that a 5 minute google search to fix a game issue is too hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJiWsoxfeEg
Seriously, this is what you sound like when you argue that a 5 minute google search to fix a game issue is too hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJiWsoxfeEg
Stallion Free
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*Sigh* I guess I'll have to use my 360 for the first time in a long while.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
How I feel about this announcement...
Yeah, the consumers are the ones killing the PC gaming market.
Yeah, the consumers are the ones killing the PC gaming market.
360 version is it!
gafster1 said:
If, he, just like me have a PS3 and a nice gaming PC he is not going to get a new console for one single game because the majority of 360 games are also on PC with better performance. His 360 would then be used for Alan Wake, and maybe Tales of Vesperia or something.
I remember seeing a presentation on Alan Wake on how it would use dual and quad cores. MS is just bullshitting because they want atleast 4 exclusives.
Fredescu said:
I was just putting it out there that at least a portion of the current console consumers grew up playing PCs. To some of the PC and console gamers the technology behind the systems is part of the fun (see high resolution screenshot and cell processor usage threads). Getting a game to run AA at a certain resolution is awesome, and isn't much work provided you have the hardware. Hell, overclocking a CPU/video card and messing with cooling solutions isn't hard either. I still have Day of The Tentacle on 3.5 diskette bitches!
As an individual, I just think it's easier to play with friends on console. I don't use iTunes because I feel like it's impossible to download a Foobar pre-configured installation. I just prefer it because it's easier to manage/share my music collection with my Macbook and iPhone. I don't use my PS3 or 360 to manage my music or media collection...because it sucks, not because I'm ignorant that you can.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Einbroch said:
Nope. I've got a relatively nice PC (Phenom II X4 940 BE 3 GHz, 8 GB PC6400 DDR2 RAM, Radeon HD 5770 1 GB RAM). I use it mainly for Firefox, checking my email and listening to music :lol It's not that I don't like gaming on PC, but it's usually just more comfortable to lie down on the couch to play the PS3. Still, the 'lol comfy couch' excuse for not porting Alan Wake to PC is laughably stupid.
Anticitizen One said:
V:tM-B runs just fine on Win 7, but you have to install the unofficial patch.
PseudoKirby
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how is it making everything else worse off?Slavik81 said:
if anything alan wake can be optimized for 360 hardware, the point of this all is that AW was a PC game at one time and when MS started publishing it they dropped the PC version, very possibly for quality reasons. had the PC version never been announced, nothing would have been said.
I am tired of hearing people say there is no reason to own a 360 if they have a PC
PseudoKirby said:
It's making the PC crowd worse off because they aren't getting a game that was initially announced for them. It's true that if the PC version wasn't announced that there wouldn't be such a huge outrage but it was and it's too late to change that. Also I'm all for developers optimising it for 360 hardware, as long as they end up releasing it on PC down the road. For Alan Wake it looks like this won't be the case.
Same here.PopcornMegaphone said:
PC gaming is kind of a 'fase' for me. I use it for gaming when I happen to buy a new PC every couple of years. But even then, I'm already confronted with it's hardware limitations because the new games aren't running that good at all and before you know it, you're playing your PC games below HD console framerate again and loading a simple save game takes more than 90 seconds.
PC gaming is one big soap bubble imo. The amount of money and constant attention required to continuously be able to play all your games at 1920*1020, 4xAA and 60fps is not cost efficient. If you aren't willing to makes these sacrifices, you will be playing your PC games in 'HD console' quality with an unstable framerate at best. And while prices may have dropped, so have the number of PC games worth playing. If I decided to buy a gaming rig right now, the only games I would play on it would be Age of Empires 3 (again), crysis and the witcher.
Nope, this is me too. I have a gaming spec PC but I've more than my hands full with 360/PS3/PSP gaming. Most of the games I'm hyped for aren't going to PC anyway.Einbroch said:
This, IMO, is the reason behind this decision. See how your friend feels about buying a 360 when there are 5 or 6 exclusives he wants.Erasus said:
TheLegendary said:
Will you drop that already? It means nothing. You can't know that every pirated copy would have been translated into a sell. Moreover, even if it was ture, it doesn't matter how much your game gets pirated, it matters how much it sells. And by every measure-stick we have, PC games do sell and do make respectable ammount of money, at the least.
As far as PC having exclusives, it still does. Maybe they aren't your typical 'blockbuster' type of games, but still PC is the choice for those who like RTS, P&C and such. You aren't going to cover every game you would like to play by owning just one platform, either the PC or the 360\PS3. That's why i do own a console as well, as many other PC members here do. To be honest, even owning 2 doesn't seem enough.
It's the same cycle again. Every new console gen, the PC looks out-dated, obsolete and people claim it's done. Games are manily produced for the consoles, but as time goes on PC regains the upper-hand again in terms of tech and possibilities for the developer, and you see games again trageting it mainly or specificlly.
Even at the 'downtime' of the PC as a platform it still gets most of the games and releases the consoles get (on top of the genres i mentioned) and it pretty much does them better.
Bummer about not coming to PC, but with MS publishing, that was to be expected. I never got the hype for the game to be honest. It doesn't look anything special so it is no big loss on my end I guess. =x
Support the developers and publishers supporting the PC platform and ignore the rest. It is as simple as that.
Support the developers and publishers supporting the PC platform and ignore the rest. It is as simple as that.
tahrikmili
Member
Backwards Compatibility is a serious problem with PC gaming. Video drivers are the main culprit here, most stuff older than 5 years old runs buggy as fuck on most systems I try. I usually end up having to downgrade video drivers which is not always an option if you have a modern video card not recognized by older driver software. To deny this is like saying the sky is orange.
DarkoMaledictus
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tahrikmili said:
There are always workarounds to fix those problems... doing a quick search will often snag you a quick solution. Personally never had a problems with any games after a bit of searching!
Minsc
Gold Member
tahrikmili said:
I have about 350 games installed & tested working on Windows 7 64-bit right now, ranging from the '80s to today. How it is possible all but one work? Only about 1/3 of them are from the past five years, the other 200+ are more than 5 years old. I guess the sky is orange!
tahrikmili said:
Backwards Compatibility is a serious problem with console gaming. Half assed implementations of backwards compatibility is the main culprit here, most stuff older than 5 years old doesn't run at all except on the Wii. I usually end up having to hook up an older system which is not always an option if you have a modern TV that does a sucky job at scaling. To deny this is like saying the sky is orange.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
DarkoMaledictus said:
The only game I can think of having trouble running on modern systems is Realms of the Haunting. I tried running it via DOSBox, but I had to play using the numerical keypad, as using the regular arrow keys would make my character spin around in circles :lol And even then it didn't really run all that well.
Don't they make A LOT more money on the consoles? Publishers aren't driven by 'what sells good enough' but what sells the most. Anything less is called an opportunity cost.Saty said:
And the cycle you describe seems to be a thing of the past. De xbox360 hardware is almost 4.5 years old(dated) and there's still no shift to the PC market. The investments in blockbuster games and franchises that moved to the consoles aren't returning at all. The game seems to have changed.
Microsoft is bypassing the PC as part of it's "living room experience". With a 360 and a Zune HD/Phone 7 smart phone, the consumer will not need a PC/laptop to check email, surf the web, play music, watch video, play games, etc.
My guess is MS sees the future without PC's or large laptops present. The Ipad is pointing to this scenario. Desktop PC's do use a lot of resources in manufacturing, and these resources (metal, plastic) will become more expensive. So why not downsize everything?
I have used a PC for gaming since you had to connect two Voodoo cards together with a cable, I find myself using my PC's less and less each year. When I get an Ipad and it is able to do what I think it will be capable of, then I may get rid of my desktop PC's altogether. I was going to build a new rig this winter, but I decided to wait. And the now I think I will not need a new PC in the future.
I imagine other folks are leaving PC gaming for the same reason, mobile devices and consoles are convenient, less time consuming to set up, and cheaper in the long run.
My guess is MS sees the future without PC's or large laptops present. The Ipad is pointing to this scenario. Desktop PC's do use a lot of resources in manufacturing, and these resources (metal, plastic) will become more expensive. So why not downsize everything?
I have used a PC for gaming since you had to connect two Voodoo cards together with a cable, I find myself using my PC's less and less each year. When I get an Ipad and it is able to do what I think it will be capable of, then I may get rid of my desktop PC's altogether. I was going to build a new rig this winter, but I decided to wait. And the now I think I will not need a new PC in the future.
I imagine other folks are leaving PC gaming for the same reason, mobile devices and consoles are convenient, less time consuming to set up, and cheaper in the long run.
Minsc
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SmokyDave said:
It's not that bad really, about 70 or so are from Steam (thanks holiday sale!), so those are self-managing, and about 70 or so are from GOG, so that's a simple double click. About 30 are DOSBox, so those don't need installs, and the other 150-200 I was running through 5 or so a day for the last few months, they're all stored in image format on my drives locally with all the relevant patches and mods, so in most cases they'd only take about 10 minutes each to test, sometimes less. A handful took a bit longer, the ones with a large amount of mods such as morrowind and oblivion and fallout 3 all took about a day each to get properly configured.
Compatibility is near 100% for older games, which is downright amazing, especially if you also factor in I have an ATI card (and a multi-core processor which I didn't have to set to a 1 affinity CPU once), which is supposed to be a nightmare.
But is it? If MS need more exclusives for the 360 (and to my mind, they do) then this is actually a very good business strategy. Revenue from PC Sales obviously isn't enough to counteract the 'exclusive effect' or MS would make it happen, they're all about the money after all.wmat said:
It may suck for consumers but for MS it looks like a smart move. I expect there will be a contingent of PC Gamers that suck it up and buy an arcade 360 and Alan Wake. Then when the next 360 exclusive hits...
LordPhoque
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eznark said:
I only played Mass Effect on the PC. I was speaking about ME2, I played both versions. I beat Mirror's Edge on 360 first then on PC. Sure it looks better on PC and it's smoother, but the experience remains the same on both platforms.
I'm buying all my multiplat. titles on PC since I have a new one. But come on calling some consoles games "unplayable" because they're technically superior on PC is just BS.
