A "pointless' thread u just bumped back up to the top by posting in it.
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Microsoft is selling every Xbox One they can make, 50 mil. man hours spent on system
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A "pointless' thread u just bumped back up to the top by posting in it.
The last reply was a minute before mine. When you say 'u' instead of 'you' your argument loses all credibility (not that it had any to begin with)
"Xbox One allegedly made up 31% of the console sales, with Xbox 360 following up at 30%. PS3 and PS4 apparently represented 15% of the retailer's sales. Wii U comprised 6%, while the original Wii only made up 1% of tracked sales."
Why does the Xbox 360, Xbox One, Wii and Wii U all get their own statistics but the Ps3 and Ps4 are grouped together?
Septimus Prime
Member
That's 1 man-hour for every 100 transistors!
Teletraan1
Banned
Probably 45 mil man hours spent trying to get a party together.
GoofsterStud
Member
They really need a Microtransactions purchased!
That'll show Sony!
That'll show Sony!
cartoon_soldier
Member
They were both at 15%.
Teletraan1
Banned
Wii U
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Jesus. If the PS4 didn't launch this would have been an incredible record breaking launch for MS.
But because the PS4 exists, GAF declares the poor XBO a failure. Damn.
But because the PS4 exists, GAF declares the poor XBO a failure. Damn.
Mariah Carey
Member
Oh God, we really aren't going to get any good Black Friday PR, are we?
cartoon_soldier
Member
Proves his point?
Ah right, gotcha. I was a bit confused.. Although, it's crazy then how there's the same demand for the Ps3 as there is for the Ps4
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Next Thursday I believe
Dead Prince
Banned
well this is what they posted in the first 24 hours.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/11/xbox-one-biggest-launch-in-xbox-history
humbled microsoft is humbled. i expect the numbers for these to go grow by the time NPD is out. heck. i expect 90% of their PR will be about game stats.
I lolled
CambriaRising
Member
Stop thread whining.
Ugh, so late. Thanks for the info.
crazygambit
Member
When you say competitive, what do you mean exactly? Do you mean that both consoles do well regardless of hardware, prices or policies? That doesn't seem very competitive to me.
The hallmark of competition is that if your product doesn't provide enough value to the market, it fails. This fairy tale that every company needs to be successful in the market in order to have competition is completely deluded.
Why would companies go to the effort of improving their offerings if they sell out anyway?
Truer words have never been spoken.
"Where your tv obeys your every command". THX XBOX, MY TV WAZ GETTIN A BIT REBELLIOUS BUT NO MORE
rokkerkory
Member
playstation family
KungFucius
King Snowflake
They sold at least 1 million, and manufactured a significantly higher amount than that. You will find a link below that says an Ipad spends 5 days on an assembly line. Assuming utility rate of 50% which is lowballing then each ipad takes 62.5 hours of actual labor or a million takes 62.5 million man hours.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/It-takes-5-days-and-over-300-hands-to-assemble-an-iPad_id27123
SwiftDeath
Member
You mean let MS have their PR spins?
But yes that's all it is. Without numbers there's little to discuss
ChainsawFilms
Member
That's got to be a lot in salaries. 50m man hours? Average MS salary, anyone want to take a guess? That's a huge investment.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I'm just baffled as to why MS seems obsessed with these meaningless random stats they keep posting. X million miles driven in forza, X million man hours, 41 improvements in new controller, etc. Seems each week we get more from them.
I just don't get how we are supposed to be impressed with that kind of stuff. I'd rather just hear solid sales numbers and that's all.
When stockists are telling customers PS4's are only available in 2014, checking online to see which of your local stores (for example Argos) has an XB1 in stock, is not a great hassle.
MS probably isn't giving away actual numbers because at this point if both consoles are selling out then it's just a matter of who produced the most. And if MS puts a number out, I'm sure it will be less than Sony's. The whole story would just be simplified as Sony sells more than MS. Which is true but not necessarily because less people are choosing the XB1. It's a smart move by MS, the number itself wouldnt be the news story, it'd be that Sony sold more.
I think next year we'll get actual, important sales data on the comparison of these two. But I have no doubt Sony is taking launch and will at least take the first year.
I think next year we'll get actual, important sales data on the comparison of these two. But I have no doubt Sony is taking launch and will at least take the first year.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
The Xbone and PS4 both sell at a loss yet you are talking about value as if one is failing to provide that. I am a little pissed that the Xbone is not more powerful, but the PS4 itself is only marginally more powerful. My PC with a ~ 2 year old GTX 670 is already way the fuck ahead of them both. It's pathetic in many ways, but that's what we are stuck with for the next 5+ years. I own both btw.
I am curious though what exactly do you think is making the PS4 so superior in value? Is it the 100 bucks or the slightly better graphics? Does PS+ currently offer that much more value than XBL? XBL will soon have more free games because of competition with PS+.
Outside of the people where the 100 bucks is really important, the 2 are going to appear very similar to the masses.
Shipping != selling.
There are a lot of Xbones sitting on the shelves in EU.
For instance Media Markt in spain
plz ignore wrong price tag
"Sony Xbox One"?
They're dreaming. You can buy a few easily from EB online shop:
https://ebgames.com.au/xbox-one-164576-Xbox-One-Console-Xbox-One
purpletentacle
Member
Glad to see they're getting on top of that product recall though...
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... seriously MS, who writes your PR copy? Fire them. Fire them hard.
Shipping != selling.
There are a lot of Xbones sitting on the shelves in EU.
For instance Media Markt in spain
plz ignore wrong price tag
Retailers are hoping that people will buy Xbox if they put Sony's name on it
I am not sure if its really a bad sign being at a healthy 2nd place. It's not like the X1 is flopping. It is selling well regardless of all the negative comments in here.
I personally went with PS4 this generation because i do think it will have a lot better exclusives and better multiplats but with that said i like to keep things fair and square with my opinion and in my opinion X1 is doing very good and just because it is not doing as good as PS4 does not mean it is failing at all...in fact that is far from the truth.
So you conveniently left out the second part of my post?
I'm aware of your "leanings" but assumed you'd be better than that.
purpletentacle
Member
Problem is, in my opinion, that PS4's word of mouth keeps getting better and better, and the One's is getting worse and worse. Examples: today's Edge article about the One's bad UI or Kotaku's piece about resolution. I don't disagree with either, and I would imagine a lot of gamers might be feeling the same way (even those who own the system). Add that in with rumors that it might be a full year before something like party chat is fixed and it becomes very hard to recommend the system for the now. So do the sales pick up? Or get worse?
Sure, second place is good. But, right now I feel bad for those who paid $500 for a product that is truly being beta tested in the future. And that's not gonna go well for MS down the road.
Pfft. I have no good feelings left for MS. But enjoy the view from the high horse though.
Somewhere Denis Dyack is crying tears of joy lol
Not to mention sales parity is bullshit. I may have to find Y2Kevs post on the subject as it's dead on.
@crazygambit
Maybe I won't have to find Y2Kevs post afterall.
FutureZombie
Banned
If Xbox One outsold PS4 in the NPD, it would probably be the best thread of all time.
crazygambit
Member
Well the PS4 is 20% cheaper and around 50% more powerful, I think that's pretty significant. I think saying the graphical difference is slight given the whole resolutiongate stuff we've seen seems a bit disingenuous. And LOL at the comparison at the value of PS+ vs XBL. C'mon you can't be seriously comparing the games they offer. I've had PS+ for much less than a year and the amount of quality games I've gotten out of it on PS3, Vita and now PS4 is just insane. Not to mention the discounts, which can be pretty sweet. However all of this is pretty off topic.
I wasn't even talking about any console in particular, but I guess it's telling how you immediately thought of the Xbone. My point was that it was the same thing that happened around the launch of the PS3. Should the PS3 have been successful at $600 for some misguided "health" of the market? No. Even though I personally think the PS3 offered pretty good value at launch, since it was by far the best Bluray player at the time and at a fraction of the price of a standalone (and I was in the market for one), the market clearly didn't agree. Look at the PS3 now though. They clearly turned it around and the whole philosophy of the PS4 came about of that failure.
I truly hope Microsoft does the same and turns it around. I certainly don't hope the current incarnation of their console succeeds in order for there to be competition, because that's not what competition is about.
radyboysmith
Banned
sony cant compete when there is no stock to buy !!!
c'mon sony ps4 is sold out till 2014 in australia and most countries . why the low production
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c'mon sony ps4 is sold out till 2014 in australia and most countries . why the low production
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