Are Gears/Halo/Forza/Sunset Overdrive enough? If not, where are the games going to come from?
They have to start doing something about Europe. Anything.
Start giving it away. lol. EU will be a huge drag on Xbone unless they do something drastic. Xbox 360 shows the market, while granted not as big as PS3, is there for Xbox in the EU.
Would love to see more focus on PC gaming.
Same here man, amazing bundle!
If they pulled something like that id be game again maybe.
Rise/Forza/Titanfall/Watch Dogs?
Not surprising at all. The stack of Xbone consoles piled up here in Nebraska Furniture Mart has been there since January. When the Kinectless SKU hit it just made the pile bigger.
It's just not a product the market wants. I want to say compelling software would make a difference but if Titanfall couldn't bring in customers I don't know what could.
Not surprising at all.
It's just not a product the market wants. I want to say compelling software would make a difference but if Titanfall couldn't bring in customers I don't know what could.
Not surprising at all. The stack of Xbone consoles piled up here in Nebraska Furniture Mart has been there since January. When the Kinectless SKU hit it just made the pile bigger.
It's just not a product the market wants. I want to say compelling software would make a difference but if Titanfall couldn't bring in customers I don't know what could.
Not surprising at all. The stack of Xbone consoles piled up here in Nebraska Furniture Mart has been there since January. When the Kinectless SKU hit it just made the pile bigger.
It's just not a product the market wants. I want to say compelling software would make a difference but if Titanfall couldn't bring in customers I don't know what could.
There's only three weeks on kinect-less demand in this time frame. That is not nearly enough time to get any real information, especially as we don't know how much was shipped and when, we just have one number for three months.
That'd actually be better than where PS3 ended up from a business perspective, considering PS3 still cost Sony all their profits from PS2, PSP and PS1.
Word of the Day, right there.
They have to start doing something about Europe. Anything.
Start giving it away. lol. EU will be a huge drag on Xbone unless they do something drastic. Xbox 360 shows the market, while granted not as big as PS3, is there for Xbox in the EU.
Like everyone knows, there's no chance Microsoft can reach first, so it's a battle for how well they do in second. They still can do OK with a killer slew of games in America, as long as they keep price parity. And they do have a compelling lineup in the future, so I think it'll be a good second place system. Maybe 50 million by the end? I'm just throwing out a random prediction here, haven't really calculated any projections based on current trajectories or anything
Now that the price has dropped and Microsoft is going to have its comparatively impressive Holiday season of games, I think they'll do better going forward. Relatively speaking, anyway. Next year I mean.
NFM is one of the largest (the largest?) furniture stores in the country and one of the biggest device/home entertainment stores/showrooms.What is this store? And more importantly why on earth does it carry video game consoles? 0_0
And here...we...go.
Microsoft is now Sony
Sony is now Microsoft
Nintendo is Nintendo
NFM is one of the largest (the largest?) furniture stores in the country and one of the biggest device/home entertainment stores/showrooms.
See, that's exactly why I don't get all the 50-60 million Lifetime sales predictions for the X1. It's not going to get near that. It's install base is going to crumble in Europe, it's going to heavily contract in the US and probably in the UK. No way it gets near that high up
It says their revenue is up 14%, isn't that good?
Ack, I hope not. MS has a tendency to get greedy when they turn their attention to things. I kinda like not having to buy shit through their store.
See, that's exactly why I don't get all the 50-60 million Lifetime sales predictions for the X1. It's not going to get near that. It's install base is going to crumble in Europe, it's going to heavily contract in the US and probably in the UK. No way it gets near that high up
It did? Wow! Got a source for that?
Yeah when everything started changing and Spencer was put in charge I thought and still think the same. MS can get a respectable second with ~50 mil to Sony's ~100 mil.
The majority of these numbers were pre kinect cut and apps out from gold and stuff so ... next time might be a bit better.
PlayStation revenue was up 53% YOY in Q4 2013...that was from January - March, though...
Like everyone knows, there's no chance Microsoft can reach first, so it's a battle for how well they do in second. They still can do OK with a killer slew of games in America, as long as they keep price parity. And they do have a compelling lineup in the future, so I think it'll be a good second place system. Maybe 50 million by the end? I'm just throwing out a random prediction here, haven't really calculated any projections based on current trajectories or anything
Now that the price has dropped and Microsoft is going to have its comparatively impressive Holiday season of games, I think they'll do better going forward. Relatively speaking, anyway. Next year I mean.
PlayStation revenue was up 53% YOY in Q4 2013...that was from January - March, though...
Digging in is great, but they need to do more.
I think a combination of digging in for the long haul and being more aggressive in terms of price cuts or bundles is the best move to help stimulate demand.
A £350/$400/400Euro X1 bundled with two games and three months of Gold would be a good start.
Yup, I'm waiting for an MCC $299 Black Friday bundle.
A lot of people missing out.
Last Quarter 360 shipped 800,000 units. There is usually a drop in shipments between Jan-Mar quarter and the Apr-Jun quarter. Last year that drop was 23%. If MS had a similar drop this year then the 360 shipped 616,000 units. So X1 with those numbers shipped 484,000 units.
PlayStation revenue was up 53% YOY in Q4 2013...that was from January - March, though...
50 millions seems so much more optimistic than some other predictions you make What WW split do you foresee? And over how many years?Like everyone knows, there's no chance Microsoft can reach first, so it's a battle for how well they do in second. They still can do OK with a killer slew of games in America, as long as they keep price parity. And they do have a compelling lineup in the future, so I think it'll be a good second place system. Maybe 50 million by the end? I'm just throwing out a random prediction here, haven't really calculated any projections based on current trajectories or anything
Now that the price has dropped and Microsoft is going to have its comparatively impressive Holiday season of games, I think they'll do better going forward. Relatively speaking, anyway. Next year I mean.
Do second vs third place even matter here? It's not like the Wii U are going to take a lot of multiplatform sales from the Xbox One even if it surpasses it in sales. I think microsoft just need to focus on becoming an compelling alternative to the ps4 or at least have some great exclusive games that can drive sales. While I don't see the Xbox One winning the sales battle against the ps4, it can still be a profitable console for MS when all is said and done and that should be the most important part.
marc^o^ said:50 millions seems so much more optimistic than some other predictions you make What WW split do you foresee? And over how many years?
Okay. I didn't ask for all that, I just wanted know if that was good.