DriftingSpirit
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Sure.Imagine just how shite PSN would be if Live didn't exist? We'd all probably be stuck with Home.
A single console dominated gen still isn't bad though.
Sure.Imagine just how shite PSN would be if Live didn't exist? We'd all probably be stuck with Home.
Maybe Forza goes F2P or something. That would fit with feeling 'disenfranchised'.
Imagine just how shite PSN would be if Live didn't exist? We'd all probably be stuck with Home.
Maybe Forza goes F2P or something. That would fit with feeling 'disenfranchised'.
Imagine just how shite PSN would be if Live didn't exist? We'd all probably be stuck with Home.
PSN would be free.
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, when they usually have in the past, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.so what does ms actually have in terms of exclusives now ? im not asking you specifics,only if they have nothing up their sleeve right now since that seems to be what youre implying here
And probably still getting those atrocious download speeds or more maintenance outages. PSN on PS4 is much better than the PS3 era.PSN would be free.
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.
Again, there's E3 coming, so there's bound to be at least one surprise. Always is. As of right now (January), I haven't heard anything. I will closer to E3.
I think Microsoft probably has a game or two in the pipeline that they haven't shown yet. Sony has a decent stable of exclusives right now, but most of them don't even have a release date.
The immediate future for Ms exclusives doesn't look overly great, but if they announce a few games due out within the next few years at E3 it would look a whole lot better. They did however come with a really solid games lineup the first 3 years of this gen, while Sony had a lack of meaningful exclusives. By many accounts, including many here on GAF, MS has been beating Sony in exclusives so far this gen. Even the Kinda Funny guys talked about it in one of their pocasts late last year.
We since got a flurry of titles announced by Sony like Detroit, Days Gone, God of War and Spiderman. However, correct me if I'm wrong, none of those even have a release date. Again we don't know what Microsoft has in their pipeline. You would think now would be a good time to show it with the scalebound cancellation, but they are probably waiting for the Scorpio E3 announcement to do that.
My point stands that I've been happier with Microsoft's exclusives so far this gen. One cancelled game doesn't change that. We'll see what the future holds.
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, when they usually have in the past, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.
Again, there's E3 coming, so there's bound to be at least one surprise. Always is. As of right now (January), I haven't heard anything. I will closer to E3.
is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, when they usually have in the past, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.
Again, there's E3 coming, so there's bound to be at least one surprise. Always is. As of right now (January), I haven't heard anything. I will closer to E3.
is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
Come on, let's not turn this thread into a Live v PSN one.
Now back to Scalebound......
So what can Microsoft do this year to boost sales and promote the new console?
I want to throw up just thinking about it.Appex always felt like they were testing the waters. Makes sense for the Motorsport series. Maybe a little less so for Horizon.
is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
Interesting, but if I remember correctly Sony will have marketing rights for pretty much all the big 3rd party titles launching this year?
So what can Microsoft do this year to boost sales and promote the new console?
Sony is announcing and releasing so much stuff because they have the best third party relations and they have a myriad of first party studios.is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
PSN would be free.
disenfranchise .. hmmmmm
halo f2p - mp can gather income through req system i suppose
forza f2p - i haven't played enough of this game to see how that can happen. idk how the
Forza would be pretty easy given how the series has gone. Car passes, tokens, slot machines, new area expansions, etc.
Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...
Phil's been adamant (now) that throwing money towards third party exclusives "doesn't grow" their brand, and they likely won't go that route.
Big new IPs need significant resources and capital and I can't see where that'd come from.
Not if you like free online, then it's not even working. I used to pay for both Live and PSN but since I started playing multiplats on PC it wasn't worth the money for the few and frequently delayed console exclusives imo.PSN on PS4 is much better than the PS3 era.
Not that this fits into a MS Studio topic, but I would assume the new Assassins Creed that will launch this year would be a prime candidate. Maybe the new Wolfenstein tooInteresting, but if I remember correctly Sony will have marketing rights for pretty much all the big 3rd party titles launching this year?
So what can Microsoft do this year to boost sales and promote the new console?
Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...
Phil's been adamant (now) that throwing money towards third party exclusives "doesn't grow" their brand, and they likely won't go that route.
Big new IPs need significant resources and capital and I can't see where that'd come from.
Free but shite. I'll gladly take the £30~ hit a year for a good service that also showers me with more free games than I can play in a lifetime.
343 is a huge studio. Are there any chances they might also be working on multiple halo titles? Perhaps a spinoff/Halo 3 Anniversary or is it all hands on deck for Halo 6?
You have to look at t from a mainstream perspective not a message board perspective. Most people right now are playing NBA 2k, battlefield, gta etc. this people buy virtual coins, battle packs etc. halo req packs make money. It's been a year plus and the game is still hovering around the top 20. People are still playing forza. Car packs bring in money. That's what they have deemed as viable. YOu hook people into your online ecosystem and offer them services. Whether it be games, ea access, live groove Netflix etcI've had this worry as a fan for a long time now. I know it seems like they're trying to turn everything into a service, but what does that mean concretely? Have they seen that much success with that? I know Halo and its REQ packs and post-launch support are seen as a success, and Minecraft seemingly continues to print money, but is that a viable future for the brand as a whole and as it exists now? Can it really support their ecosystem? I don't see where the additional live game support is coming from either. They might be "writing off" this gen and waiting for their next big round of investments to start again... but that seems super risky.
I still think Halo 3 Anniversary is revealed at E3 and released this fall343 is a huge studio. Are there any chances they might also be working on multiple halo titles? Perhaps a spinoff/Halo 3 Anniversary or is it all hands on deck for Halo 6?
Certainly possible but then again, that's still the problem. It's just more Halo and doesn't help growth.343 is a huge studio. Are there any chances they might also be working on multiple halo titles? Perhaps a spinoff/Halo 3 Anniversary or is it all hands on deck for Halo 6?
They always seem to get studios from somewhere to work for them though. But honestly I don't know who that could be especially since they don't have Remedy, Insomniac etc any more.Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...
This first party source noted to me that this time last year they had clear knowledge about what's coming in pipeline but right now it's radio silent, which to them says not much is on the horizon, software wise.
Phil's been adamant (now) that throwing money towards third party exclusives "doesn't grow" their brand, and they likely won't go that route.
Big new IPs need significant resources and capital and I can't see where that'd come from.
I've had this worry as a fan for a long time now. I know it seems like they're trying to turn everything into a service, but what does that mean concretely? Have they seen that much success with that? I know Halo and its REQ packs and post-launch support are seen as a success, and Minecraft seemingly continues to print money, but is that a viable future for the brand as a whole and as it exists now? Can it really support their ecosystem? I don't see where the additional live game support is coming from either. They might be "writing off" this gen and waiting for their next big round of investments to start again... but that seems super risky.
That's how I see it. You'll get stuff like Ashen, cup head recore Tacoma that will try and fill the void but there gonna put the most money into the service gamesThey always seem to get studios from somewhere to work for them though. But honestly I don't know who that could be especially since they don't have Remedy, Insomniac etc any more.
Maybe they'll just focus on smaller games like Recore and Ori and focus on the big blockbusters? That'd be depressing if so (nothing against those games but I need some big AAA aswell)
Thanks for your prediction over how the service would have been in an alternate universe of yours where Xbl didn't exist.
Smh. Do you guys read the things you type in these silly fanboy arguments?
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, when they usually have in the past, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.
Again, there's E3 coming, so there's bound to be at least one surprise. Always is. As of right now (January), I haven't heard anything. I will closer to E3.
I can't see past Halo 6 and maybe a Killer Instinct sequel for all they've got in 2018. Unless they have been hiding studios all this time. Maybe a token CGI trailer for long away titles to fill the gaps but nothing concrete because they don't have anything.
I think when we see their new games, they'll be set up to build on for many years with no follow ups.
is there any possible way they might keep their cards close to their chest after their whole conference got leaked last year ? it just sounds unbelievable that they have nothing coming while the competition is churning out game after game even getting third party exclusives
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star
Valkyria Revolution
Gravity Rush 2
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue
Tales of Berseria
Yakuza 0
Digimon World: Next Order
Ys Origin
Nioh
Horizon Zero Dawn
Nier: Automata
Danganronpa 1•2 Reload
Kingdom Hearts Collection
Halo Wars 2
Rise & Shine
Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...
This first party source noted to me that this time last year they had clear knowledge about what's coming in pipeline but right now it's radio silent, which to them says not much is on the horizon, software wise.
Phil's been adamant (now) that throwing money towards third party exclusives "doesn't grow" their brand, and they likely won't go that route.
Big new IPs need significant resources and capital and I can't see where that'd come from.
343 is a huge studio. Are there any chances they might also be working on multiple halo titles? Perhaps a spinoff/Halo 3 Anniversary or is it all hands on deck for Halo 6?
Your use of the word big is cuteIt's only January and look at this list for PS4
Then February
March
Those are all Big PS4 exclusives for the most part.....That's insane for the first 3 months of the year.
Microsofts list comprises of
I included every XBO/PC combo exclusive.......2!!!!! Just 2!!!!!
Till fall or E3 when they announce dates for the likes of Forza and stuff. It's insane how hugely flopped it is. Xbox One launched with an amazing lineup imo compared to the PS4, they also had an amazing following year! but fumbled due to the controversies. Since then....there list has been getting smaller, and smaller and smaller.
I get what you're saying but can we try and not muddy up this topic with games and information from other companies that aren't MS first party and partners. Like, Rise & Shine doesn't even have anything to do with MS. That's Adult Swim publishing it. The fact that it's console exclusive (for the moment) really doesn't matter in this topic, let alone the Sony gamesIt's only January and look at this list for PS4
Then February
March
Those are all Big PS4 exclusives for the most part.....That's insane for the first 3 months of the year.
Microsofts list comprises of
I included every XBO/PC combo exclusive.......2!!!!! Just 2!!!!!
Till fall or E3 when they announce dates for the likes of Forza and stuff. It's insane how hugely flopped it is. Xbox One launched with an amazing lineup imo compared to the PS4, they also had an amazing following year! but fumbled due to the controversies. Since then....there list has been getting smaller, and smaller and smaller.
Is it viable for the future and the brand? Yes it is. Thought you may not like the answer. Xbox service + Windows Store + a couple of exclusives = Future of Xbox.
Otherwise known as how Steam came to be. They are trying to be Steam in the console space and move it to the PC and have Xbox overarching both. Make a highly powered device that core gamers want to play games on. Knowing that 3rd party sells the most units, making the box is imperative to this part of their plan. Build out the platform features, and make it easy to use. Have Xbox Play Anywhere, which is really no different than what Steam has but instead of different PCs, it's console and Windows 10 PCs. Have the Store. Have some mainstay games. Have a platform for indie developers. Have an Early Access program. It's all there.
We'll see what happens though.
At this point I genuinely do not know. Being transparent here. I heard about Scalebound's cancellation last week, and since then I've talked to a few people. One's a first party developer and mentioned they haven't heard anything internally about 'new' first party stuff, when they usually have in the past, and slowly realizing that, perhaps that's because there barely is any.
Again, there's E3 coming, so there's bound to be at least one surprise. Always is. As of right now (January), I haven't heard anything. I will closer to E3.
Is it viable for the future and the brand? Yes it is. Thought you may not like the answer. Xbox service + Windows Store + a couple of exclusives = Future of Xbox.
Otherwise known as how Steam came to be. They are trying to be Steam in the console space and move it to the PC and have Xbox overarching both. Make a highly powered device that core gamers want to play games on. Knowing that 3rd party sells the most units, making the box is imperative to this part of their plan. Build out the platform features, and make it easy to use. Have Xbox Play Anywhere, which is really no different than what Steam has but instead of different PCs, it's console and Windows 10 PCs. Have the Store. Have some mainstay games. Have a platform for indie developers. Have an Early Access program. It's all there.
We'll see what happens though.
All of MS' 3rd party AAA offerings focusing on SP experiences have flopped financially this gen thus far, so there's really no reason to believe MS is going to continue to pursue those deals if they aren't seeing returns on them. The real question within the Xbox division becomes - why fund those branches of content in the games we are making when that's not why people are playing our 1st party games? Don't be surprised if you start hearing of scaling back of SP campaign features in Halo or Gears going forward, or rolling them as MP campaigns.
Could they? Sure, but like I've said, unless they have entire first party studios secretly hidden away somewhere, I personally can not deduce who might be working on a surprise. 343 is working on Halo, that's their bread and butter. The Coalition is on Gears, Turn 10 is on Forza, Rare is on Sea of Thieves and other prototypes (that aren't anywhere near ready to be shown), Lionhead's gone...
This first party source noted to me that this time last year they had clear knowledge about what's coming in pipeline but right now it's radio silent, which to them says not much is on the horizon, software wise.
Phil's been adamant (now) that throwing money towards third party exclusives "doesn't grow" their brand, and they likely won't go that route.
Big new IPs need significant resources and capital and I can't see where that'd come from.