Chobel
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Microsoft: Xbox One day 1 update only takes about 15-20 min
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AstroNut325
Member
Less than 2 months from launch and you don't the details of this? WHAT?????
Cow Goes Moo
Member
Probably?
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Day 1 patch to remove always-online DRM is unable to be downloaded because everyone is online.
Oh, the irony.
Oh, the irony.
Source? It would make more sense to put a stable early build in the HDD during manufacturing and then provide an update. The entire OS just sounds stupid.
Eel O'Brian
Member
Anything online is probably going to be a clusterfuck on either system on launch day. I'd considered doing that $10 PS3/PS4 upgrade for Battlefield 4, until I realized that downloading a double-digit GB game on a day when untold thousands of people would be doing the same thing would likely be a slow, crawling misery. So, yeah, I feel for everyone downloading this update.
BRocknRolla
Member
That's good. Definitely better than the Wii U. Nevertheless, based on load and the variable speed of Internet, I wouldn't put much faith in that number though.
SHADES
Member
With the 300K azure servers & not forgetting 'the cloud' you can bet your bottom dollar they'll handle the load.
They could be referring to the average broadband speeds that MS was quoting from Akamai when they were justifying always online. Think it was 2.9 Mbps. Going by that calculation, it would be ~325 to 435 MB in size
But knowing MS, they could be assuming anything to be the bandwidth that "most users" have.
But knowing MS, they could be assuming anything to be the bandwidth that "most users" have.
uncledonnie
Banned
Yeah I think this is why no one is showing the final UX yet. I'd be surprised if Sony does not have one, although it should be considerably smaller given there is no DRM impact.
Lol, this.
Correct question is can you play a game without installing the update? If so, your question is moot since both next gen consoles went to manufacturing before the OS was complete.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yep. Many will be on here crying about it taking too long. lol
Hope I'm not one of them. *screams*
When will we finally move past the "Microsoft is doing it so that means Sony will do it too" arguments?
SmoothRunningGun
Member
PS4.
I'm curious as to that as well. This might sound Adam Orth-ish, but something does tell me people who can afford spending over half a grand for a Xbox One and a few games at launch probably have access to the internet one way or another even if it is a really shitty, slow connection because of the area they live in.
that's so that when we get to the future we won't have to wait for details to be finalized.
Let me explain.
Right now, Microsoft is behind the detail finalization curve. Because they started out always in "finalizing the detail" mode, we as consumers have to wait for them to finalize said details, and when they are not finalized - which is frequently - we get frustrated.
The new strategy is quite brilliant. With them beta testing in the future, details will have been proactively decided on by the time we arrive at those future points in time. In other words, in those future timelines there are people that will always be perpetually waiting for the details to be finalized, while those in the past will always be able to read the finalized details without waiting.
The only complexity is that it is difficult to know whether we are in the timeline where the details are always being finalized, since, as it happens, we are in a timeline where the details are always currently being finalized. The paradox being we don't know if we have yet to initiate the future beta testing into the future or if we are the future that the past is being beta tested into.
TriangularDuck
Member
This is through four different router connections, wired is not plausible in the apartment I'm currently living in. I was actually wired in the last place I lived on 25/10, and the download speed was just as shitty. I just ran a speedtest on my computer that's currently connected wirelessly and pulled 62/18. Either the Xbox's wireless adapter blows donkey dicks or their servers suck, and I'm going with the second based on my experience with them wired.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Both statements. Tales from my ass.
It's on your end.
Sony doesn't have a DRM reversal, but that doesn't mean they won't use all the time allotted to make it as good as they possibly can. I'd be beyond shocked if they didn't have a day 1 patch.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Isn't it already a useless brick without a LIVE sub?
TriangularDuck
Member
Then I have had two broken Xboxes.
Syphon Filter
Member
How come?
LordBaztion
Member
So it is going to be around 30 to 40 min from south america. I guess I will have some time to read the manuals.
Oh boy, more of your fucked up information. Yay!
HORRORSHØW
Member
Poor choice of words. They'll have to update the entire OS. It has to be substantial since MS still can't bring itself to demo it for potential customers.
No, he said compiled.
No DRM is turned off during this update, confirmed by major nelson here on GAF.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
The 180 was ages ago. Couldn't they have changed the firmware/software before manufacturing?
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Shouldn't the next next batch of consoles have this update installed? People worried about the download should probably just wait.
Hawk269
Member
In my opinion, day one on both consoles is going to be patch city. Both systems will have OS updates, then there will be game updates and most likely for every single title. With the crunch time to get things ready, I am sure that almost every game will have some update, but thankfully, both systems will do updates in the backround so that is going to be a good thing.
I'm not pretending to know insider info. We all know that PS4 started manufacturing before the OS was complete. These machines both have legit operating systems. You can't shackle the software team with the hardware schedule.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony has one as well. From the time that the production OS was sent in for manufacturing to launch is a long time both companies have to optimize their systems.
Even before the change of policies they were planning a day one update. Every system will have a mostly finished OS, but they had planned on every console being connected to the internet so they essentially are allowing OS development to go into the last possible minute. The first run.of the systems will.have the preupdate OS but any system manufactured after the update is completed and live, should theoretically be already have the update.
Even before the change of policies they were planning a day one update. Every system will have a mostly finished OS, but they had planned on every console being connected to the internet so they essentially are allowing OS development to go into the last possible minute. The first run.of the systems will.have the preupdate OS but any system manufactured after the update is completed and live, should theoretically be already have the update.
Modifying your question a bit, since I'm pretty sure this is what you were trying to get at:
For gaming, yes!
shinobi602
Member
Huh? Says who? I thought it was just to update the console due to the DRM changes.
If you just want to get to gaming on day 1 though on PS4, just don't connect it to the Internet right away. It's playable out of the box.
astronaughtE
Banned
"Estimated time 15-20 minutes. Ok everyone this should only take 2 minutes..."
Michael Scott
Michael Scott
Woo-Fu
Banned
Actually this is something MS should be able to handle just fine. After all they host updates for a much larger number of clients for Windows patches.
Its the 180 update. They got to remove the 24 hour big brother checks.