Combat wasn't even shown. He was just executing everything, which typically requires a combo score before you can execute.
They had debug/dev mode on for demonstration purposes.
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Middle-earth: Shadow of War: First Gameplay Video
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Combat wasn't even shown. He was just executing everything, which typically requires a combo score before you can execute.
They had debug/dev mode on for demonstration purposes.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, that was an interesting choice to go 100% executions god-mode throughout, but we got to see a lot of power moves out of it, with the mid-air slow-mo bow action being the most impressive.
Son Of Sparda
Member
I know. That's why I said it was meh.
I'm guessing animations for normal combat are super unpolished or something or it's just straight broken right now lol
gordon1470
Member
I am picking up what this trailer is putting down, that's for sure. Might be a day one if it continues to look this good gameplay-wise.
So you missed where I said "one of the most impressive gameplay reveals" not "the most impressive"? This was a great demo.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
It looks like they've enabled one hit finishers. Generally it takes a chain of combo of 7 or more.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Man if the combat's once again lifted straight out of the Arkham games I'm passing on this no matter how much better they tuned the Nemesis system.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, in the previous game at max, with legendary abilities unlocked, at most you got a 20 second window of unlimited executions after charging up the ability.
This demo was pure godmode at full power. But that did keeps things moving quickly, and there was a lot of ground to cover.
Ohhh, that explains a lot. I thought it was weird he beat the whole thing in 3 minutes when they spent so much talking about the various units and their abilities/fears/immunities...
HellforLeather
Member
I didnt expect to be this excited about this game after feeling kinda "meh" on the original but wow...pretty good demo. The animation looks fantastic and it really looks like they are creating something new.
Darkstorne
Member
Tinúviel;231712444 said:
I think one of the reasons this all works so well with orcs instead of men is because we can excuse dumb AI this way. If it was a battle involving men we'd expect battle formations, but with orcs it's fine if everything is kind of a chaotic mess. Let's them focus more on the nemesis concept which really is amazing and needs to be shamelessly stolen by other devs. WB Games would be flattered I'm sure.
NullPointer
Member
And you're pretty much a bad guy in this series, specifically using the dark powers against Mordor to get your full bloody murder on. That makes more sense with Orcs and beasts for the most part.
Looks insane, almost overwhelming. Whenever I see videos like these I wonder how the game will feel in practice with everything going on. Like what would've happened if he didn't have the orc come in an attack the Overlord? Or if the archer wasn't there? Would it have just been a QTE or something? I guess that's where all the different new elements of the nemesis system comes in.
Inkvoterad
Member
Looks cool, but the combat still looks pretty dull. I wasn't a fan of how fast you got OP as hell in the first and it didn't help that the combat felt like a more barebones (although gorier) version of the batman combat, which i'm not the biggest fan of in the first place.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
The boss fights don't seem to involve much fighting. I'm not sure what to make of this game.
Well God Mode was enable, for demo purposes the fight went by pretty quickly
The Broker
Banned
Is not my type of game but lets acknowledge that the Nemesis System moves the industry forward with new great gameplay ideas.
wink wink Ubi
wink wink Ubi
I finally sat down to watch the gameplay trailer and the Nemesis 2.0 system has me SHOOK. How did they manage all that dynamic promotion of chiefs you conquered and branded? Homies coming into play during boss battles based on how you upgraded your War party?! My jaw was on the floor! I loved how unique Shadows of Mordor felt in terms of the system being individualized for how you played - THIS WAS ON ANOTHER LEVEL:
And I don't even particularly care for anything LotR, but goodness I was pretty blown away!
And I don't even particularly care for anything LotR, but goodness I was pretty blown away!
BigBoss007
Member
Flamethrowers and dragons in Middle Earth?
OMG.
OMG.
It's annoying that in the video they showed nothing but finishers for the combat, I'm sure it was to make the combat be shown faster. the player was god mode and killed that boss in like 2 hits.
If you haven't played the first game, realize the combat system is actually pretty decent and indepth enough to keep your interest throughout the game. It shows theyve expanded upon it a bit - just hoping to see more finisher animations.
This video might have been scripted but the final game will probably be just as open ended as the first one.
If you haven't played the first game, realize the combat system is actually pretty decent and indepth enough to keep your interest throughout the game. It shows theyve expanded upon it a bit - just hoping to see more finisher animations.
This video might have been scripted but the final game will probably be just as open ended as the first one.
BigBoss007
Member
They are ghost arrows. They're infinite.
Arrows depleted in the first game. Not sure why that would chance in the final product of the sequel.
They were using Shadowshot a ton in this demo which cost two arrows, hence the unlimited arrows being on in this demo.
That and "Gravewalker!" always brought a smile to my face. You knew shit was about to go down.
ScientificPizza
Banned
It's crazy to see third parties getting involved with this. Cool, though, assuming Microsoft eventually get their shit together with the windows store
e: i meant to post this in the play anywhere thread
e: i meant to post this in the play anywhere thread
Dude, what? You imagine them to completely changed the core combat? Please.
Am I the only one that sees the 'dynamic' parts of this and immediately looks like it is heavily scripted.
I can't tell if it is for demo purposes or not but I wasn't feeling this at all. I would love to see a video without god mode and actually using the mechanics instead of constantly taking control away and instant KOs.
I can't tell if it is for demo purposes or not but I wasn't feeling this at all. I would love to see a video without god mode and actually using the mechanics instead of constantly taking control away and instant KOs.
FunkyPajamas
Member
It looks fun to play, but the fight between AI entities looked pretty silly. Those three orcs fighting the troll before the main character goes into the overlord's chamber were just basically idling.
Still, my interest is piqued. I haven't played the first one (and probably won't unless it's free on PS+) but I might add this to the wishlist to buy when it drops in price.
Also, can you actually command your armies (or your warchiefs) to do stuff while in gameplay, or will they just keep "pushing forward"? I didn't notice anything like that in the video but when the guy in the warg jumped into the fight at the end I'm assuming that wasn't caused by the player, right? Seemed more like a scripted moment and I assume the AI character that plays support is randomly picked from the pool of available friendlies at the moment.
Still, my interest is piqued. I haven't played the first one (and probably won't unless it's free on PS+) but I might add this to the wishlist to buy when it drops in price.
Also, can you actually command your armies (or your warchiefs) to do stuff while in gameplay, or will they just keep "pushing forward"? I didn't notice anything like that in the video but when the guy in the warg jumped into the fight at the end I'm assuming that wasn't caused by the player, right? Seemed more like a scripted moment and I assume the AI character that plays support is randomly picked from the pool of available friendlies at the moment.
Irishonion
Member
Looks cool, really need to catch up on the story of the first one.
Nemesis interactions are RNG and depend upon a number of factors. Like in the first game attacking a warchief and killing them gives them a certain % to come back in a later mission. While decapitating them makes it impossible to return or almost impossible.
Really enjoyed the first game but this trailer was a huge turn off. The nemesis stuff shown results in scripted cutscenes instead of any of it truly happening ile you're playing. It just feels like it'll be "here's the 10 cutscenes for each character type/loyalty level".
Also, the tone is so hyper violent and macho that it's embarrassing and certainly nothing like the source material.
Also, the tone is so hyper violent and macho that it's embarrassing and certainly nothing like the source material.
ThEoRy...
Member
To be fair, there are dragons in Middle Earth as Smaug was in The Hobbit. In Fellowship it was said they haven't been seen in a long time though. This game throws cannon out the window as they've taken many liberties but dragons were a part of Middle Earth at one time.
Gondor confirmed baby!!
http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/08/s...st-how-big-the-new-middle-earth-game-will-be/
Osgiliath right?'
Massive city, should be great.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Was kind of ho hum about this, but after watching that they're going all out on this one. I don't know if I'm day one, but I'll probably pick it up eventually.