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I'd be more upset with this all if it didn't look so incredibly bland visually.
The environments are just so drab and boring.
The environments are just so drab and boring.
They should open new crowdfunding to fix that terrible art style.
So what? This isn't some shareholder investor obligation scenario. The kickstarter process affords absolute creative freedom, limited only by funds.
People on kickstarter want to make their game, not yours.
It's not about the extra content, it's the fact that Keiji Inafune sold the idea on being a love letter to his fans. He literally said his greatest regret was not sticking around to finish MML3 for his fans. Many people (myself included) gave him money to see that promise fulfilled. He then goes on to say "Hey, a single game is great... but I think I can turn this into a massive franchise with cartoons, comics, and everything else!"
He's abusing many people's good will. This no longer sounds like a love letter to the fans, it sounds like a business man looking to find ways to exploit people for money. That's fine, he runs a company and he wants to make money... The problem is that we don't have a game yet. Before we even get our love letter, he's already talking about ways he and Comcept can make more money off of us. It's insulting.
In fairness, it's still has a good amount or dev time to be put in.I'd be more upset with this all if it didn't look so incredibly bland visually.
The environments are just so drab and boring.
Yes and they're making their game using our money. I just think begging for more money almost a year after the fact is a little scummy.
I'm not trying to change the developers vision. They themselves are changing the vision and dumping the additional costs on the community in an attempt to create a multimedia franchise.
...did you think the game would be coming out for free?If it was that important to their vision of the game then it would've been an earlier stretch goal. This coming after the announcement of an anime just reeks of corporate greed in trying to milk this franchise before the first game is even out.
English VA? That's the last thing I want.
How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
MM8: VAVA has been a staple in Mega Man games since the Playstation days.
Mega Man Powered Up has VA, and it's great.
I thought this went without saying...
sörine;119728307 said:MM8: VA
MM & Bass: no VA
MMPU: VA
MM9: no VA
MM10: no VA
Yes and they're making their game using our money. I just think begging for more money almost a year after the fact is a little scummy.
I'm not trying to change the developers vision. They themselves are changing the vision and dumping the additional costs on the community in an attempt to create a multimedia franchise.
sörine;119728307 said:MM8: VA
MM & Bass: no VA
MMPU: VA
MM9: no VA
MM10: no VA
You know, I forgot about this thread when I joined GAF...How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
English VA? That's the last thing I want.
The main problem with Skull Girls was its stupid idea to make a 60FPS HAND-DRAWN 2D fighting game. In a fighter, you DO NOT need 60 frames of animation, ask any animator and they will say it's the dumbest idea. THIS is just flat-out begging for money in the ugliest way. At least pre-orders can fund this.
Nooo!! This isnt happening!! Theres no reason for me to go on! What What am I funding for?!
How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
I think that would look bad on them to be honest. The character would have to be free, permanently if they did.
Not only that, that game is already out.
...did you think the game would be coming out for free?
I don't understand this weird notion of betrayal. Obviously they are going to monetize. They are a business. They would like to make more than one game over the rest of their lives.
I find the choice for the goal (VA? who cares?) a bit silly and wasteful, but it's also not like they're walking up to me and taking my money either.
I was mad enough at the first Skullgirls crowdfund. I want to support Mike Z, but they proved they weren't ready to handle releasing a game and in the end the people who bought the game were punished with a broken game. It was a straight up slap in the face for them to do that and then say "give us money again so we can do more."How many folks who are mad at this would be ok with say, Lab Zero starting a 2nd crowdfund for extra content for Skullgirls once they finished Beowulf?
I think the project is getting too ambitious. I would think most people want a good retro Megaman game not an over-budget modern 2D game unless they indeed plan to push the genre to new heights. The first game should be able to stand on it's own, be not too expensive and able to recoup enough sales to fund an even better successor.
I want inafune to prove to Capcom that a game like this sells and not just a demonstration of how Kickstarter can fund such games.
sörine;119728307 said:MM8: VA
MM & Bass: no VA
MMPU: VA
MM9: no VA
MM10: no VA
It's not about the extra content, it's the fact that Keiji Inafune sold the idea on being a love letter to his fans. He literally said his greatest regret was not sticking around to finish MML3 for his fans. Many people (myself included) gave him money to see that promise fulfilled. He then goes on to say "Hey, a single game is great... but I think I can turn this into a massive franchise with cartoons, comics, and everything else!"
He's abusing many people's good will. This no longer sounds like a love letter to the fans, it sounds like a business man looking to find ways to exploit people for money. That's fine, he runs a company and he wants to make money... The problem is that we don't have a game yet. Before we even get our love letter, he's already talking about ways he and Comcept can make more money off of us. It's insulting.
Shantae isn't having VA.
I don't understand how this is exploitative at all? If you don't think the game needs this extra content don't fund it. If most people agree with you it won't get funded but you will still get the original game you did fund. He's not blackmailing the original backers. You're still going to get the game originally promised.
I was mad enough at the first Skullgirls crowdfund. I want to support Mike Z, but they proved they weren't ready to handle releasing a game and in the end the people who bought the game were punished.
For the 1st campaign, the characters are free (for 90 days). They've also added in one extra character for free (even if it's a clone-type char) and promised a 2nd, so they've done that.
I think in the case of a 2nd campaign, it would be for an expansion (though if they did one again , I'd prefer it to be a sequel)
X4-8: VAThere -are- other games from that era onward...
It's not about the extra content, it's the fact that Keiji Inafune sold the idea on being a love letter to his fans. He literally said his greatest regret was not sticking around to finish MML3 for his fans. Many people (myself included) gave him money to see that promise fulfilled. He then goes on to say "Hey, a single game is great... but I think I can turn this into a massive franchise with cartoons, comics, and everything else!"
He's abusing many people's good will. This no longer sounds like a love letter to the fans, it sounds like a business man looking to find ways to exploit people for money. That's fine, he runs a company and he wants to make money... The problem is that we don't have a game yet. Before we even get our love letter, he's already talking about ways he and Comcept can make more money off of us. It's insulting.