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Miyamoto on Zelda Wii and Zelda ST
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darkpaladinmfc
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Drinky CrowDrinky Crow said:
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That was quick
, or is it just a tag?
Green Mamba
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Am I the only one who thought Phantom Hourglass was more difficult than Twilight Princess? I always hear about people complaining about the former's lack of difficulty but never the latter, yet there were times in Phantom Hourglass where I was genuinely stuck. Twilight Princess, on the other hand, full auto-pilot.
beelzebozo
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gawdamn i love zelda
Haunted
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Heh, sadly, I wouldn't count on it. They had left- and righthanded options for the Wii Sports games, but I fear you'll be disappointed when Zelda Wii comes around.Dragona Akehi said:I'm just asking for an option here.
I suppose a GameCube version would do as well.
I'll cross my fingers just in case.
A Twisty Fluken
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Dragona Akehi said:
Count me in. If I'm going to balance on the horsebag I need to be swording with my dominant hand. None of this foolishness.
Dragona Akehi
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Haunted said:
Well if there's a LH mode, I'll be happy. It's all I'm asking for, really.
DefectiveReject
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Welcome to neoGAF. can't believe you haven't met Drinky Troll¿¡?!¿¡darkpaladinmfc said:
Shadowlink
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I'm liking how the sequels of games such as SMG 2, NSMB Wii, and Zelda ST are harder. Show me Zelda Wii Miyamoto!
autobzooty
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might give ST a chance if his claims about the difficulty proves to be true. combine that with the lack of that stupid temple in PH and it might actually be pretty boss.
DefectiveReject
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You'd think with indepedant nunchuk and wiimote they could do it, ala cackhanded archery in Wii Sports Resort.Dragona Akehi said:
Haunted
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Poor Dragona.Dragona said:
Reading of your plight makes me feel almost sorry to be born right-handed, just as
Yeah, that's a seriously puzzling comment. I don't know what kind of aiming mechanic he might be alluding to at all. Slightly worried....AniHawk said:
GrotesqueBeauty
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A little extra challenge isn't going to mean much to me if the dungeons are all the same bland homogonous theme and the overworld is about as exciting to navigate as watching paint dry. I'm not interested in riding the choo choo to one generic brown cave after another.
Also, for the love of God, don't use motion controls for the main combat in the new Wii Zelda. They can be lots of fun in occasional context specific situations, but the last thing I want is a lengthy adventure game where I have to constantly shake the controller (yes, even if it's a "flick of the wrist").
Also, for the love of God, don't use motion controls for the main combat in the new Wii Zelda. They can be lots of fun in occasional context specific situations, but the last thing I want is a lengthy adventure game where I have to constantly shake the controller (yes, even if it's a "flick of the wrist").
Door2Dawn said:
Oh I have a pretty good idea if they're using motionplus in particular instead of the pointer.
Amir0x said:
The difficulty of PH's dungeons weren't ever a problem for me. It was their length. The PH dungeons felt bite-sized compared to past handheld Zeldas. With a two year turnaround time, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Zelda Wii sounds like my worst fears are coming true. I really hope there's less of a focus on combat if this is the route they're choosing.
Dragona Akehi
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Haunted said:Poor Dragona.
Reading of your plight makes me feel almost sorry to be born right-handed, just asGodMiyamoto intended.
The irony being of course that Miyamoto is left handed, except for using a wiimote apparently.
Fuck. I just realised.
First.
Person.
:/
BlueSummers
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FP Zelda confirmed. And it will be amazing.
Mt Heart Attack
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Wii Sports Resort archery-like aiming, for example.Haunted said:Poor Dragona.
Reading of your plight makes me feel almost sorry to be born right-handed, just asGodMiyamoto intended.
Yeah, that's a seriously puzzling comment. I don't know what kind of aiming mechanic he might be alluding to at all. Slightly worried....
I just don't know how that would work, i think I'd prefer the good old ir pointer (which is by the way the most awesome thing about the Wii Remote).
I think we're going to see multiple shifts of camera perspectives, like how the current games turn to first person when you use the crosbow or hookshot. You interact with certain parts of the environment(switches/levers for example) in first person.Haunted said:They shot that 1st person Zelda idea down a couple years back, I'd be surprised if they ran with it for Zelda Wii.
Not that I would mind.
Saint Gregory
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I don't think it'll be 100%, maybe just a head on/over the shoulder perspective like RE4. I called it BTW in the E3 Zelda reveal thread that the player would control the girl/sword from a pseudo first person perspective... not that I'm thrilled I may be right but who knows.Dragona Akehi said:
Dragona Akehi said:
See, I'm gonna do the stupid thing and hope that it's more like Wii Sports Resort rather than this.
Really though, the pointer was more than good enough for the game. I understand the whole immersion thing is a key point for the Wii, and they want Zelda to show this off the most, butI hope this doesn't alter things too drastically.
Mt Heart Attack
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I'm pretty sure Miyamoto said something about that. Like "when you play Wii Sports archery and swordifghting, think about Zelda".Haunted said:
AniHawk said:
I mean length would help give them time to flesh out the ideas within the dungeons, but it won't fix them for me. Phantom Hourglass dungeons were some of the least clever and boring dungeons ever in the series. It was the worst kind of hand-holding: the game assumes you are a retard from the outset, and so makes no attempt to even try to get fancy with the challenges. It just politely shuttles you from one blatantly obvious solution to the next, nodding occasionally at its excessive casualness.
I still remember early on when I did that
cartography puzzle
I amuse myself with the thought that the only talented member of the team nestled himself away in a corner, in horror at what Miyamoto's band of beasts was doing to this prolific franchise, and worked quietly on this single puzzle for for the entirety of the games development. Ironically, his only other contributions were some of the puzzles in the Temple of the Ocean King, which while certainly the best designed in the game, were fated to be ruined by the rest of the team's Halloween prank of forcing you to redo them eighty two times.
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I played PH in Japanese, and I think I enjoyed it more because of that. Without all the hand-holding text, it was like a throw-back to earlier Zeldas where I just had to explore and figure out what to do on my own. It led to some cool moments, especially when any obtuse DS functionality has to be used. :lol
Amir0x said:
I thought PH had the least influence from Miyamoto or Aonuma of any of the post OoT EAD games. I remember them saying it was just a team of about 10 or so people that were working on it until Twilight Princess was completely finished. That would have been June or August of 2006 or something.
beelzebozo
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amirox you forgot to work a derogatory and dismissive comment about "manchildren" into your post. quick, edit it, and i'll change this post to something innocuous so no one will notice
AniHawk said:
I assume his influence is little, as he was probably too busy thinking of more ways to destroy the game industry with Wii Music, Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus during this time. I merely said "Miyamoto's band of beasts" because it's a team spawned from development on a franchise he thought up, and he was the one commenting on the titles in this thread.
DanteFox said:
No, that one was dumb.
I am talking about the one where you had to
follow the outline of the island and then draw it, finding the solution to a specific puzzle only after you saw what the island's image made when you drew it. The cartography puzzle!
beezlebozo said:
Saving more of my manchild references for when the Zelda Wii defense force comes out, trying to argue about why the motionplus controls are still okay even though they sometimes go out of sync during battle or they don't always properly register your swings or how the targeting system doesn't even work as well as the old Z-Targeting system, or how it's all worth it because OH MY GOD IMMERZION! Or if it's first person, tee hee!
For all I hated about Phantom Hourglass, the touch screen controls I had no problem with. A big surprise!
Amir0x said:
I thought he was busy keeping EAD Tokyo from fucking up Super Mario Galaxy too much (it was 2007 and he had another year to destroy the industry). Him and the other old guys. Remember, the new composer made the music kiddy instead of grand until Kondo corrected him and the level designers made the game way too easy until Miyamoto told them it should be harder.
It sounds like he had some direct input into the level design of NSMBW, so my fingers are crossed that it turns out to be pretty good. I think it's weird that when it comes to platformers, Miyamoto suddenly decides not to ruin that series for a bit. There are all the Wii ___ you mentioned, but there's the new Zelda, and in the past, Metroid Prime (probably the best example of ruining a classic franchise). But then he goes into Mario and suddenly it has to be perfect.