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Miyamoto on Zelda Wii and Zelda ST
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beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Jocchan said:It would be awesome, but we both know they won't be doing it
Fuu said:
see nintendo? games that borrow from RE4 inspire the word "awesome" in people.
eggandI said:If all this talk about creativity/innovation means more waggle gimmicky bullshit, they already lost my $50
if you mean, "if they use the motion plus in interesting ways and make zelda play in a way that's distinct from the way it has played previously," i think you can save your $50.
Thinking a bit more about your idea, they already had treasures in Phantom Hourglass.beelzebozo said:
You could find them inside chests scattered around the world, you could buy them in stores (giving your rupees a bit more use), or you could even trade them online. The two downsides were the fact there were so few of them, and the fact they were almost completely useless (did anything happen at all if you got the whole set? I was missing one of the necklaces but never bothered to look for it / go trade stuff). If they beefed that up and made treasures worth hunting for, I'd be really happy.
EDIT: even the power, wisdom and courage gems were a nice way to make looking for chests worthwhile.
cartman414
Member
Fimbulvetr said:
Even him saying drinky crow is logical?
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
cartman414 said:
drinky crow is a lot of things. When it comes to Zelda and Mario games, he's very logical.
PataHikari
Banned
BrandNew said:
"Correct" is not one of them. Ever.
eggandI said:
Because pessimism without any point to it is so much more accurate!
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
U mad
I'm definitely interested in how Nintendo plans on implementing MotionPlus for Zelda's swordplay. I really loved Twilight Princess's implementation of motion control for swordplay with the exception of the crappy waggle for standard sword slash. However, the sword thrust, shield bash and sword spin attack felt satisfying to use with motion control in my opinion.
I'm not sure how much better Nintendo can do with the targeting system if Miyamoto is referring to long range combat. The bow and arrow, boomerang and claw shot were fantastic with the use of the Wii's IR pointer. In particular, it made Wind Waker's bow and arrow mechanics feel archaic in the sense of technically being significantly slower less precise.
I'm not sure how much better Nintendo can do with the targeting system if Miyamoto is referring to long range combat. The bow and arrow, boomerang and claw shot were fantastic with the use of the Wii's IR pointer. In particular, it made Wind Waker's bow and arrow mechanics feel archaic in the sense of technically being significantly slower less precise.
cartman414
Member
BrandNew said:
Well, he does appreciate the Oracles at least, though according to one of his earlier posts, Zelda 2 is way at the bottom.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
More truthiness from the crow
Thunder Monkey
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But... I liked waggle wand Zelda.BrandNew said:
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Oh I do too. But that's where I differ from drinky, like a lot of things. But he's right on the general quality of the game, regardless of the system.
cartman414
Member
BrandNew said:
Except for Zelda II being bottom rung.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Oh well then that I can agree with.BrandNew said:
And I'll gladly kneel down to lick his balls right about now.
Look man, I know you fucking love you some Zelda 2. But you know that most of those who played through the Zelda series, casual fans to fanboys, usually don't think highly of Zelda 2.cartman414 said:
You can't exactly hold that against Drinky. There are many things you can though, but not this.
cartman414
Member
Wrath2X said:
Well, the thing is that he also happens to favor G'n'G games, so difficulty, one of the common complaints, sure can't be a complaint for him. And if it is, well...
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
you guys are giving his opinions on zelda games a creepy amount of attention.
cartman414
Member
beelzebozo said:
It's drinky crow, who isn't typically known for making clearsighted posts. And BrandNew inferred that he knows his Zelda.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
NimbusD said:I WANT ZELDA WII MOTION PLUS RIGHT NOW!!!!!! ARG.
Please don't be a half assed incomplete game like wind waker or an empty soulless abomination like TP...
good lord!
How many times have I heard a Zelda fanboy say "I want the next Zelda game to be hard!" and how Wind Waker and Twilight princess is for babies? And yet when a Zelda is actually challenging they won't stop bitching about.upandaway said:
It maybe unfair to some, but the way some fans talk it's like they are gaming gods who can beat anything.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
i don't care if the next zelda is easy or hard, so long as it's amusing. when did it become a requisite for a game to be tough for it to be a good time? i've enjoyed the difficulty levels on pretty much every zelda out there. the moment-to-moment enjoyment of them has very little to do with feeling challenged, to be honest--it's all sort of about getting swept up in this feeling that you're on a big fucking adventure and that you've got shit to tend to on an epic scale.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Wrath2X said:
sure, totally. i didn't think you were saying that at all, man. just making a general statement that that's sort of how i feel about it. WIND WAKER, for example, i would never cite as a difficult game in the least, but when you're cruising the ocean in your boat, nabbing treasures, shooting down pirate ships, and suddenly night turns to day and that morning tune plays, then the amazing ocean travel theme kicks in. . . my god. it's that stuff, the stuff that's wholly separated from difficulty, that is really rewarding to me about zelda.
cartman414
Member
upandaway said:
Zelda 2 isn't unfair, outside of a few quirks.
And Zelda has mostly not been about difficulty following the NES days.
beelzebozo said:
If only the sailing didn't take so stupidly long. Especially having to play the tune every time you wanted to change wind directions.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
none of that really ever bothered me, so, yeah
brandonh83
Banned
Hell I'm not a big fan of The Wind Waker but it wasn't because of the sailing.
beelzebozo said:
Totally. For me, difficulty is fairly low on the list (well, depending on which area, at least. Like combat, I can give a pass, but I expect a certain level of complexity with the dungeons), but more importantly, it's about the experience.
AceBandage
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beelzebozo
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[Nintex] said:
whatever the map, the destination is clear: the united states of awesome, population, us
yankeeforever2
Member
So the Engine is done, so probably Nov next year I guess.
ShinNL
Member
Since I don't want to make a LTTP or bump an old thread, I guess this is the perfect place right now to post.
I just recently started on Zelda:TP (I had it for a loooong time but never bothered to even get the sword) and I got like 7 hours in now. It's soooo awesome. The reason why I didn't play much the first time was because it felt way too similar to other Zeldas.
I should have played it sooner.
I hope the new Zelda will surprise me as much as TP has so far.
I just recently started on Zelda:TP (I had it for a loooong time but never bothered to even get the sword) and I got like 7 hours in now. It's soooo awesome. The reason why I didn't play much the first time was because it felt way too similar to other Zeldas.
Then the Midna thing happened. She's so cute! The wolf thing was exactly what I needed. And it looks gorgeous and the sense mode is cool.
I hope the new Zelda will surprise me as much as TP has so far.
HylianScribe
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AceBandage said:
So console Mario, Metroid, and Zelda all in one year. Giving fans what they want at least.
sphinx said:
Yea, it's more-than-worthy, but there were remarks at this year's E3 that suggested it might make a 2010 date, and that the game was already into development (not early stages). I'm not sure where the early stages stuff came from, that was E3 2008.
AceBandage
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sphinx said:
You can make it. I'm threaded out.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I for one always believed.sphinx said:
No, really.
AzureNightmare
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Why do I feel like I've read those comments more than 4 times already? (the comments in the article)TSA said:
AceBandage said:
I am too old for that, besides It might be bannable to open threads about things already being discussed or something.
but I can tell by the lack of interest in this thread that most people won't even read your update.
It's pretty much a promise of a console Zelda next year, a thread would have reached at least page 2 by now with all sort of speculation about dates and what not.
eh, so much drama over nothing
... hehe people will listen when the right time comes.Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
cartman414 said:
For what it's worth, you can sail into the wind the same way you do on an actual sailboat.
Also, I think that the real problem with the game wasn't the speed of travel but the fact that the ocean could have been just a tad more populated and had a few larger islands to sail past and around.
The big thing about the boat in WW though, and I think not everyone saw this in it, is that the iconic nature of a boat promises adventure. When you see the boat and look past it at the ocean, it creates a very powerful mood. This was one of the very best parts of WW for me. Even though it took a bit to sail some places, I still didn't mind really, because it really was about the mood of getting there.
I am finding Spirit Tracks to evoke the same feeling. Some see the train as limiting the world map in terms of freedom of exploration. But the train makes Hyrule feel vast again. Trains promise long journeys and symbolize faraway places. The visual presentation of the train travel in the game helps with this. It's very atmospheric.
abstract alien
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I thought all of this was already known.