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[Salsa]

Basically the opposite of that thread we had.

Technically speaking today's CG can be impressive, but a lot of times the effect really fails for me because of bad implementation or downright weird design. It doesnt necesarelly have to do as much with the technical aspects as with something gone wrong in another department.

As i mentioned in the other thread i really hate the CG Transformers because they have 0 weight to them, at all.

Example: http://youtu.be/pjwn_Y3SqVU?t=1m47s ballerina!

They dont feel menacing enough, they dont look like huge industrial machines that should weight a ton and shatter the ground when falling, they are way too floaty, and what bothers me most i think its the fact that this is kind of inconsistent depending on what's happening in the movie.



another one i can think of:

I just thought he looked terrible. Both in design and in the way the effect was implemented.

What else?

 

[Thagomizer]

To be fair, Two-Face was done that way intentionally- they initially had a much more realistic effect, but it was so nauseating that they had to make it more exaggerated and absurd in order to keep a PG-13 rating.

 

[the chris]

The vampires/zombies in I am Legend looked really bad to me

 

[dalin80]

Its often to clean and shiny compared to more old fashioned systems, look at old horror movies and the absurd detail that would be obtained through make up and intelligent special effects.

I find transformers unwatchable as they have made every effort to point out the CG in the CGI, the robots are chaotic messes that just seem to float across the screen.

 

[Salsa]

To be fair, Two-Face was done that way intentionally- they initially had a much more realistic effect, but it was so nauseating that they had to make it more exaggerated and absurd in order to keep a PG-13 rating.

Interesting. I just think its jarring to look at one side of his face and then the other, and no i dont mean it in a "the character's called two-face dumbass!" way. Considering Nolan's approach to the Batman universe is slightly more grounded to reality than previous outings, i just think they could have done a better job without enraging comic fans.

 

[bangai-o]

i thought the Two Face looked fine. Ive only seen the movie twice though. That is usually the problem is when people over analyze in multiple viewings.

 

[ezekial45]

I thought Two-Face looked amazing. Both in it's design and implementation.

Anyway, here's recent CG from that Sarah Michelle Geller show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSXOe_DG2sg

ugh...

EDIT: That may not have been what you're looking for. Here's another one.

Drive Angry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me7A0V34cSQ

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Let's just get this out of the way if we're going to have another one of these threads every month.

Avatar shits on everything. No, don't argue. You're wrong.

 

[VeryGooster]

How modern are we talking? The Rock as the Scorpion King in The Mummy Returns was some of the worst shit ever.

Also:
-Prairie dogs and monkeys in Crystal Skull.

 

[Salsa]

Let's just get this out of the way if we're going to have another one of these threads every month.

Avatar shits on everything.

why do you have to take the thread there man

How modern are we talking? The Rock as the Scorpion King in The Mummy Returns was some of the worst shit ever.

Also:
-Prairie dogs and monkeys in Crystal Skull.

I guess modern in the sense of comparing to way better contemporaries

 

[Makoto]

The dogfights based on the Red Tails trailer. Some say it looks cartoony but I don't think that's it. Perhaps just too bright? Or maybe the planes are too clean and there's little sense of wear to them?

 

[_Isaac]

Terra Nova. That's understandable though.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

why do you have to take it there man

You knew it was going to come up. I thought it better to get the discussion out of the way first.

Anyway, the winner for worst modern CG in a film easily goes to Wolverine. Dem bathroom claws.

 

[Salazar]

Avatar shits on everything.

All that shit has to go somewhere.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

You knew it was going to come up. I thought it better to get the discussion out of the way first.

Opinion is opinion. I wouldn't agree with them, but all you're doing is thread shitting.

 

[Jangaroo]

I really liked Two Face's CG design. Thought it worked really well though I haven't seen the movie in some time. The CG in Transformers is pretty amazing in terms of technical prowess but man it's hard for me to keep track of what's what on screen due to them being designed with so many little intricacies and moving parts. All I see is a bunch load of metal.

Anyway, the winner for worst modern CG in a film easily goes to Wolverine. Dem bathroom claws.

Blows my mind that the claws in the other movies looked so much better. That scene was terrible.

 

[Dead]

Jeff Bridges in Tron

opening scene is brutal

 

[Salsa]

It just blows my mind how they decided to go with 0 make-up and full on CG for Two-Face. It would have looked about 10 times better with a mix of effects.

 

[DMczaf]

Two-Face looked great, why is Two-Face in this thread?

 

[MisterAnderson]

Let's just get this out of the way if we're going to have another one of these threads every month.

Avatar shits on everything. No, don't argue. You're wrong.

Truth.

And why the hell is Two-Face in this thread??? The fuck?

 

[Zabka]

Jeff Bridges in Tron

opening scene is brutal

Winner. Just didn't work at all.

 

[Salsa]

Two-Face looked great, why is Two-Face in this thread?

cause its a thread about opinions!


also yeah, this was pretty damn ridiculous

 

[kokujin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YozMDzOAGxk

Winner. Just didn't work at all.

With the 3D glasses on, in certain scenes it looked alright, but it looked bad most of the time.

 

[Zoramon089]

It just blows my mind how they decided to go with 0 make-up and full on CG for Two-Face. It would have looked about 10 times better with a mix of effects.

Some people think makeup automatically makes everything look better...there's nothing it would have added. The parts of his burnt skin that lie flush on the surface of his face look good enough with the CG. The jarring part was the section that was missing from his cheek which there was no real way to get looking right and "realistic" without it being really gross to look at

 

[overcast]

I thought Two Face looked great?

I'll add to the thread by agreeing with you on the Wolverine shitty CG. That was AWFUL.

 

[Alien Bob]

Jeff Bridges in Tron

opening scene is brutal

I was hoping that the artificiality of the tron-world would kind of even things out a little and make the face look better, but nope.

 

[Thagomizer]

It just blows my mind how they decided to go with 0 make-up and full on CG for Two-Face. It would have looked about 10 times better with a mix of effects.

I really don't see the problem with it from a technical standpoint, and they really couldn't have made it any more realistic without it being full-on nightmarish. Hell, pretty much the only think keeping it from there anyway is that cartoonish, no-way-that-thing-can-stay-in-the-socket eyeball.

 

[-Winnie-]

Jeff Bridges in Tron

opening scene is brutal

This, seriously. I got massive uncanney valley vibes from him throughout the entire movie.

 

[Zebra]

It just blows my mind how they decided to go with 0 make-up and full on CG for Two-Face. It would have looked about 10 times better with a mix of effects.

Wow, I'm picking up a completely different emotion from the first picture than the second one.

 

[crazy monkey]

Avatar dogs that are so plastic and the water scene after he jumps. Nature scene and trees are very very good though

 

[Clydefrog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YozMDzOAGxk

 

[Squash]

Two Face didn't bug me. Wolves in Twilight look pretty bad from what I remember.

 

[Rorschach]

Two Face only looked really bad in the hospital.

 

[_Isaac]

Avatar dogs that are so plastic and the water scene after he jumps. Nature scene and trees are very very good though

I actually liked the dogs BECAUSE they looked plasticky or rubbery. It looked cool and alien.

 

[GhostWriter24]

What is the resolution of that Avatar video file? 480x320?

 

[Salsa]

Some people think makeup automatically makes everything look better...there's nothing it would have added.

I really disagree. Just think of stuff like wound and burnt skin make up mixed with CG for the "impossible" stuff. It would look much better and to me it would certainly add, not to mention the fact that it would even be cheaper.

The Walking Dead crew is really good at getting away with this

I really don't see the problem with it from a technical standpoint

yeah, again, its not that much a tech issue as it is a design one for me. I just guess they had to go with cartoonish for the rating then. Real shame.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Avatar dogs that are so plastic and the water scene after he jumps. Nature scene and trees are very very good though
Blurry images

I don't know what you're trying to show, but I can't see shit besides some pixelated garbage.

 

[Salsa]

stop it with the Avatar shit, jesus

 

[Alien Bob]

Wow, I'm picking up a completely different emotion from the first picture than the second one.

Well to be fair, you should be getting a different emotion from the burnt half

 

[smokeymicpot]

Lost mostly every CG shot was bad.

 

[JDSN]

Cant believe im the first one to say First Class and Captain America.

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

Jeff Bridges in Tron

opening scene is brutal

In the opening scene, had they not shown his face at all, and just did the back/side of his head thing, it would have been perfectly acceptable. If they used the 3d jeff JUST for CLU, in the Tron world, it would've been fine since they could use the excuse "he's a digital copy of a real human" thing. But using that model for a real-world person...poor choice.

 

[ConradCervantes]

I personally thought the Prequel Trilogy looked horrible. It didn't look like an actually lived-in world at all. Too sterile.

 

[Speevy]

King Kong

Does Lord of the Rings count? Because Lord of the Rings.

 

[Salsa]

Cant believe im the first one to say First Class and Captain America.

See Captain America would have been probably terrible if they used CG for Red Skull. As it stands i think the CG was well done enough cause it was fairly minimal? nothing really sticks out in my head. I remember some rough moments on First Class though.

 

[callmedave]

The dogfights based on the Red Tails trailer. Some say it looks cartoony but I don't think that's it. Perhaps just too bright? Or maybe the planes are too clean and there's little sense of wear to them?

I think they look great when in the air, the planes only look off when they are on the ground.

Speaking of dogfights, I remember that crappy James Franco movie Flyboys and some odd looking cgi.

 

[Rodney McKay]

I personally thought that Two-face would have worked better if they just hadn't shown that side of the face, or just hinted at it in scenes.

I like the actual burnt face part, but the completely undamaged eye-ball just looks weird.



As far as other movies I've seen with "off" CG, I'd have to say Spiderman movies on occasion. Particularly the Harry, Peter fight in Spiderman 3. Weird animation is what breaks CG the most for me. Another I can think of was Blade 2 where the fights go from CG to real life. The CG animation is off just enough to make it very noticable.

 

[John Rabbit]

spiderman 3. shit looks like a joke.

 

[zoukka]

For some reason ,shutter island had some crappy greenscreen backgrounds going on... Actors popping out and still images using with pan and zoom.

 

[Myansie]

Avatar dogs that are so plastic and the water scene after he jumps. Nature scene and trees are very very good though

One of my favourite shots in 3D was a closeup of a dog when they first attack Jake. It looked like I could touch it.

As for Two Face I thought he worked really well. I'm not sure Salsashark's suggestion to use practical effects would work. The Walking Dead example looks great, but Zombies don't have to act. Aaron Echart was not only acting, but under close ups and broad daylight.