NBA Jam for the Super Nes. So very blatant towards the final minutes.
Also that boss in Street Fighter IV with the Yin Yan symbol in his stomach - when you beat him in the first of three, the match after is ridiculous.
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NBA Jam for the Super Nes. So very blatant towards the final minutes.
Also that boss in Street Fighter IV with the Yin Yan symbol in his stomach - when you beat him in the first of three, the match after is ridiculous.
Fucking yes. Mountains of grenades and being fired at from every angle when you pop your head up. Fuck that.
Also, rubber banding in racers (specifically Mario Kart and Motorstorm)
Flame Lord
Member
The only ones that come to mind right now are the old Yugioh games. They were so full of fucking shit.
this game almost made me break my DS.
Gaz Pwnage
Member
Oh and Worms XBLA with its 100% fucking bullshit, pin-point accurate shots. I did manage to beat this one though after many hours of screaming profanitys at the screen.
Man, just thinking about World at War...
"Oh, you're crouched behind that rock 300 metres away with only 2mm of your helmet showing and 15 team mates standing in front of you?"
"IM STILL GOING TO NAIL YOU BETWEEN THE EYES AND THROW 87 GRENADES BEHIND THERE!!!!!"
Fuck you Treyarch. Fuck you so much.
"Oh, you're crouched behind that rock 300 metres away with only 2mm of your helmet showing and 15 team mates standing in front of you?"
"IM STILL GOING TO NAIL YOU BETWEEN THE EYES AND THROW 87 GRENADES BEHIND THERE!!!!!"
Fuck you Treyarch. Fuck you so much.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
When I started playing Dota2 I'd rage at Kunkka bot for cheating with his abilities, because he's a fucking robot and knows exactly where you are even if he can't see you. Thankfully they fixed that.
I still rage at the Sniper bot and it's fucking inhuman last-hitting ability.
I still rage at the Sniper bot and it's fucking inhuman last-hitting ability.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
oh right, SNK bosses
Especially Goenitz (third dude)
Especially Goenitz (third dude)
hahahahahaha
oh god
I can imagine the reaction the second he started to twirl that lance
Skyrim AI dodging arrows at a distance.
I enjoy playing bow type characters in Skyrim and sniping from a distance can prove to be frustrating as hell sometimes.
Dude is walking along... Line up shot... the second I release the mouse button to fire, he "slides" to the side... and then continues walking! Now alert to where the shot went... and checks it out.
Found a video that shows how it looks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=704XlavJJo4
I've had this happen when AIs are running in the distance as well. Not aware of my position, but running on alert... shoot and they immediately change direction to avoid the arrow. Just a slight angle change sometimes, but they serpentine along avoiding shots LOL.
I enjoy playing bow type characters in Skyrim and sniping from a distance can prove to be frustrating as hell sometimes.
Dude is walking along... Line up shot... the second I release the mouse button to fire, he "slides" to the side... and then continues walking! Now alert to where the shot went... and checks it out.
Found a video that shows how it looks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=704XlavJJo4
I've had this happen when AIs are running in the distance as well. Not aware of my position, but running on alert... shoot and they immediately change direction to avoid the arrow. Just a slight angle change sometimes, but they serpentine along avoiding shots LOL.
Fighting games:
- Seth in SFIV, where he goes into input-reading mode after losing the first round, even on lower difficulty levels. I eventually learned how to beat him by baiting some attacks from his predictable AI, but he beat me all the time back when I was getting started with the game.
- In Brawl, the AI characters' uncanny tendecy to gang up on human players.
- In Melee, where perfect shielding would actually reflect projectiles back at you, the AI would always manage to do it against anything you threw at them, even at point-blank range.
- In Smash 64, the AI's ability to locate any off-screen items that appeared. Luckily, they often let their guard down on their way to pick them up.
Racing games:
- Mario Kart 64, where the AI racers could use items without having to touch item boxes. The rubberbanding was especially egregious when a lightweight like Toad (who had the worst top speed in the game) would zoom past you even if you were maintaining max speed.
- All other Mario Karts starting with Double Dash (and the infamous blue shell). 150cc and Mirror Mode were only hard because of the absurd ammount of blue shells the AI threw your way in an average race.
RPGs:
- While it may be due to percieving unrandomness when there is none, the AI in Pokémon games often appears to be luckier than you at waking up, connecting with its moves, not hitting itself in confusion and so on.
- EDIT: Bonus bosses in most games. Dullahan (from Golden Sun: Dark Age) was nearly unbeatable through normal means, with his ridiculous Djinn Storm (which sets all your equipped djinn on standby, lowering your stats by a ton and taking away any class-specific magic you might've had) and Charon summon (lots of damage with a chance of instantly downing characters). It took me over an hour and lots of luck to beat him fairly, but when I finally managed to do it I was overjoyed. Too bad the summon you get is practically useless against the final boss.
RTS:
- AIs that begin the game with more resources than human players do. They probably have to do that to compensate the computer player's predictability, though.
Card/board games:
- Some AI opponents in a GBA Yu-Gi-Oh game I once had played, where they'd be able to perfectly guess a face-down card's stats to decide whether to attack it or not.
- Mario Party when playing on higher difficulty levels. I don't know if they still do it nowadays, but back in the third game the AI would always roll double and triple numbers whenever it used mushrooms and golden mushrooms, respectively, and they'd be almost unbeatable at some mini-games.
- Seth in SFIV, where he goes into input-reading mode after losing the first round, even on lower difficulty levels. I eventually learned how to beat him by baiting some attacks from his predictable AI, but he beat me all the time back when I was getting started with the game.
- In Brawl, the AI characters' uncanny tendecy to gang up on human players.
- In Melee, where perfect shielding would actually reflect projectiles back at you, the AI would always manage to do it against anything you threw at them, even at point-blank range.
- In Smash 64, the AI's ability to locate any off-screen items that appeared. Luckily, they often let their guard down on their way to pick them up.
Racing games:
- Mario Kart 64, where the AI racers could use items without having to touch item boxes. The rubberbanding was especially egregious when a lightweight like Toad (who had the worst top speed in the game) would zoom past you even if you were maintaining max speed.
- All other Mario Karts starting with Double Dash (and the infamous blue shell). 150cc and Mirror Mode were only hard because of the absurd ammount of blue shells the AI threw your way in an average race.
RPGs:
- While it may be due to percieving unrandomness when there is none, the AI in Pokémon games often appears to be luckier than you at waking up, connecting with its moves, not hitting itself in confusion and so on.
- EDIT: Bonus bosses in most games. Dullahan (from Golden Sun: Dark Age) was nearly unbeatable through normal means, with his ridiculous Djinn Storm (which sets all your equipped djinn on standby, lowering your stats by a ton and taking away any class-specific magic you might've had) and Charon summon (lots of damage with a chance of instantly downing characters). It took me over an hour and lots of luck to beat him fairly, but when I finally managed to do it I was overjoyed. Too bad the summon you get is practically useless against the final boss.
RTS:
- AIs that begin the game with more resources than human players do. They probably have to do that to compensate the computer player's predictability, though.
Card/board games:
- Some AI opponents in a GBA Yu-Gi-Oh game I once had played, where they'd be able to perfectly guess a face-down card's stats to decide whether to attack it or not.
- Mario Party when playing on higher difficulty levels. I don't know if they still do it nowadays, but back in the third game the AI would always roll double and triple numbers whenever it used mushrooms and golden mushrooms, respectively, and they'd be almost unbeatable at some mini-games.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The sidestep is even done by creatures!
Muffdraul
Member
I dunno if it counts as AI "cheating" per se, but that major gauntlet you have to run towards the end of Breakdown... I remember it took me like three hours of retries until I finally by some miracle got past it and could not believe the design team expected any human being to be able to do it. I fantasized about tying them up in an abandoned building and punching their faces until I couldn't punch any more.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeahhh. I don't know if that's technically an AI issue, but it's definitely cheating!
Dark Octave
Banned
To the point to where I can't even get mad anymore.oh right, SNK bosses
Especially Goenitz (third dude)
I played the demo on XBLA and the splash screen may as well have said "CONTROLLER BREAKING GAMEPLAY!!".
No thanks.
oh right, SNK bosses
Especially Goenitz (third dude)
Mortal Kombat II was cheaper IMO, where it's constantly reacting perfectly within a single frame.
Icefire1424
Member
Although I otherwise love the game, Wargame: European Escalation. AI can see all your units - even the hidden ones. Makes that Ranger squad I dropped far behind enemy lines in the woods pretty damn useless when half a dozen T-62 tanks comes rolling in...
Oh, and another vote for Mortal Kombat. Especially when the baddies don't react at all to power attacks.
Oh, and another vote for Mortal Kombat. Especially when the baddies don't react at all to power attacks.
Nocturnowl
Member
This is incredible, i'm cracking up over the sheer odds defying nature of it.
When one smashes you out then all 3 stop fighting to taunt at your demise, if you're away from the mob you may get to witness them "fight" each other, it's like watching a pre planned match up using only the weakest moves and well timed dodges, the moment you step into the vicinity the slap fight stops, the gloves come off again and then they all target you.
That's just the game being true to the source material, it's John freaking Cena.
R.C. Pro Am and the cheating orange/yellow car once you get so far into the game:
http://youtu.be/2P6h4rIT2A8?t=5m21s
http://youtu.be/2P6h4rIT2A8?t=5m21s
Everybody who plays Fire Emblem knows that the crit percentage number is 100 percent grade A bullshit.
It's like the crit number is actually out of 10 or 15 instead of 100.
Worms 2: Armageddon. AI is meant to represent humans! HUMANS DO NOT HAVE UNGODLY SENSE OF AIM AND WIND DIRECTION!
It's not just Armageddon - it's every single Worms title. You can be on the other end of the island, hidden behind a wall, and the AI will still manage to shoot you with a bazooka or throw a grenade just next to you.
TheVoidDragon
Member
Every enemy in knowing exactly where you are and all of them shooting at you at the same time, ignoring your AI team mates is really annoying. Happens all the time in CoD.
Nocturnowl
Member
This would actually make a lot more sense, I tend to get my FE bad luck lean towards normal move accuracy as opposed to criticals at least.
methane47
Member
Far Cry 2. sighh... SOOO annoying.. I cant even see my own gun with all that bush and vegetation everywhere. but a frickin guy in a tower can see me in the dark, behind the corner and hit me with a rocket... Also a jeep then spawns behind me and I get shot too death by a mounted gun..
Sighhh
BruiserBear
Banned
The first two Motorstorm games.
The obnoxious AI pretty much ruined them for me.
The obnoxious AI pretty much ruined them for me.
This was my problem in the first BF: Bad Company. I just poked my head out and in a second I have turned into a bullet sponge.
This but for Crysys.
I am driving onto a beach with a humvee and see two soldiers in the way distance, probably a mile. I climb into the turret and start unloading on them. They start running toward me and shooting the same time. Probably one out of every three bullets is hitting me. Remember they are still specks on the horizon.
In real life, shooting that far would require a soldier to go prone and take a few minutes to line up a shot. The odds of hitting it 10 times in a single mag is extrememly low. Also, they are freaking running while shooting.
Frankie Williamson
Member
First thing that popped into my head too.
Hey computer, why would you make that move....it doesn't make any sense to string those three gems together. You already have that colour maxed...OH, I see, you knew those would drop down and give you a 9 string combo. Good guess computer. You sure are lucky.
StickSoldier
Member
Diablo 3 on inferno pre-patches.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
I've stopped playing modern FPS games in high difficulty settings. Medal of Honor and BF3 made me want to pull out my nails one by one.
I always liked that about worms games actually. I go into the match thinking "okay you have the skills, but I'm a human and can improvise." I always end up winning because of all the incredibly cheap moves you can do. The most dangerous weapons are the fire punch and blow torch!