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Morgan Stanley raises Battlefield 1 sales estimate to 15M; Titanfall 2 4 million
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Shadow Broker
Banned
There are so many franchises out there that would love to make it to 4 million units sold and these guys are "less enthusiastic" about it.
Well I'm sure a lot of that 4 million came after the price was essentially cut in half.
Still, that's a great accomplishment and hopefully means we'll keep getting more Titanfall in the future.
Living Proof
Member
BF1 was the second least discounted game this holiday season? I feel like it was constantly on sale for $27-35, and usually alongside TF2 for the same price.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
4 millions seems like a fantastic result for TF2. They were expecting a lot more?
They're "less enthusiastic" in that they didn't raise their initial expectation, like they did for Battlefield 1.
"That was also Morgan Stanleys initial estimate"
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
People were getting it for $2.50 in a greenmangaming blind box during one of the big sales.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
AAA games sell much more than people think
For example ,Uncharted4 sell 8.7M in 7 month
hydrophilic attack
Member
4 mill is fantastic for tf2 if true
Obliterator
Member
As others have noted 4 million is a solid number on the surface, but revenue for it must be way down due to the extensive price cutting we've seen on TF2. That's not a great thing.
Let's hope the game legs well over the coming months because it's far too good of a game to not perform well. The team deserve to be able to make a 3rd entry.
Also BF1 is an absolute monster of course
Let's hope the game legs well over the coming months because it's far too good of a game to not perform well. The team deserve to be able to make a 3rd entry.
Also BF1 is an absolute monster of course
As I mentioned about the TF2 launch and the overreaction of GAF once again people overlooked that TF originally did well after being discounted. Being heavily discounted for Nov/Dec ensured it kept getting new players into the multiplayer.
Some much crow to be eaten in the - GI.biz Op-Ed: Titanfall 2 a "commercial failure," "a victim of chest-beating pride." thread
Some much crow to be eaten in the - GI.biz Op-Ed: Titanfall 2 a "commercial failure," "a victim of chest-beating pride." thread
Diprosalic
Banned
if it were fantastic i wouldn't have gotten it heavily discounted straight away.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
I really liked the last few Battlefield games but the recent history of launch issues made me wait, and the setting/time period doesn't appeal to me.
With it's sales success, I guess the wait will be even longer for the price to drop into my impulse buy range.
Edit:$35 in the PSN Essentials sale... might have to bite now lol.
With it's sales success, I guess the wait will be even longer for the price to drop into my impulse buy range.
Edit:$35 in the PSN Essentials sale... might have to bite now lol.
I did the within 1 month price-cut check on Slickdeals back when people were asking about this for PAL thread:
It's plausible Titanfall 2 went on steeper discount after I made that post.
I'm certainly not saying that people are wrong about that meaning less money, just that it wasn't exactly... non-standard this Fall.
It's plausible Titanfall 2 went on steeper discount after I made that post.
I'm certainly not saying that people are wrong about that meaning less money, just that it wasn't exactly... non-standard this Fall.
Broadbandito
Member
so was bf1
deadstar72
Neo Member
Not that 4 million is anything to be sneezed at , but it really deserved better. Hopefully it has decent legs like the first one
Yes. But that was not much really after all. And no 2xp for BF1 where they did it for BF4 and Hardline.
moltonasty
Member
4 mil for TF2 is better than I expected, considering all the talk about it bombing.
Do you feel Black Ops 3 did badly?
https://twitter.com/Treyarch/status/667047463581257729
That was a week or two after launch, and it's the best selling game this generation.
The Bookerman
Member
and yet TF2 is the better game.
UC4 is arguably the highest selling exclusive this gen. I am not sure I would use that as a barometer. That said, TF2 rebounded okay after a very rocky start.
Oh i never said it was a fact. Must say i dont really follow COD alot. But its weird that we didnt have any 2xp yet with BF1.
Wich is a way to get people back online to play. Guess its totally not needed with BF1. Same with a free weekend i believe.
perfectsil
Member
Umm I wouldn't use the sale numbers of a bundled game as example
Obliterator
Member
It depends how you look at it. At the major retailers that are really going to affect things like NPD FFXV for example didn't go as low as $35. At GameStop, Wal-Mart, etc the lowest it went was $40-45.
Titanfall 2 was steeply on sale everywhere for extended periods of time at all retailers including very cheap on PSN. FFXV also was discounted on PSN but not as low.
The extent of Titanfall 2's drops are what stands out. GameStop and Wal-Mart had FFXV for example at full price very often in December. Outside of launch week TF2 has pretty much always been $40 - $45 or less
I think one thing worth considering though is that they actually sell you experience boosts in Battlefield 1, so having double XP weekends hurts that: http://i.imgur.com/UKl7ULN.png
Yes, Titanfall 2 obviously had strong price cuts in response to its sales, but I just wanted to note that a lot of games - while they didn't go as deep - do this during the holiday period.
Doom was similarly a game that price cut incredibly aggressively after release in an effort to get a large audience, and Dishonored and Deus Ex did this too.
However, you're still eating a lot into your margin when you do this. It's not a linear scale, so a lot of these games are not making good money on initial sales if they don't have strong post launch content, which I suspect will be impacting the industry going forward in ways beyond just your average DLC season pass.
The biggest giveaway though is not deep price cuts, but deep price cuts that are digital only. Those aren't planned with retailers in advance, and show signs of sales response. These definitely happened for Titanfall 2.
Bornstellar
Member
Keep buying Titanfall please.
The Salt Life
Banned
We are always going to be left wondering what if Titanfall did not release in an over crowded part of the calendar year.
hydrophilic attack
Member
it's fantastic considering how badly it did at launch
fantastic as in a fantastic turn-around
still probably a disappointment compared to what it could have done had ea not bungled the launch
Obliterator
Member
Oh yeah I agree. Aggressive price drops seem to be becoming more and more standard this year, and its an interesting thing to watch. My guess would be that for many of them they include microtransactions + heavy DLC now, and that publishers are willing to take a bit of a hit up front, to get a larger player base to possible start buying digital add ons for them. That's not obviously universally true, we are seeing single player games discounted as well, but I do think its a factor. Its for sure worth it if you are a major publisher to take maybe a $10 extra hit up front on the boxed game to maybe get someone to buy $20 of DLC for the game.
Diablohead
Member
The release date for titanfall 2 still annoys me.
I think the sale argument is a valid one but there not many IPs that can move 4 million units even if selling at half price. Deus Ex MD was on sale for $15 dollars at different points during the holiday season and it did not sell anywhere close to TF2.
Damn did Dishonored 2 completely bomb?
SEGAvangelist
Member
I wonder how that 4 million compares to Titanfall 1 sales.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Depends on who you ask.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
I wonder if battlefield 1 has outsold call of duty
I feel like these quick price cuts are a terrible idea for the industry. It's essentially training us to wait a month.
You used to have to wait 6 months to get these sorts of deep discounts which was a quandary. Now, it's almost an automatic "wait".
I picked up a ton of games during the Xbone new years sale and spent like 120 bucks.
Investors don't care about big game companies releasing games that can be said to have sold a lot more than indie titles. They care about profits. 4m sold isn't much profit compared to what they expect from EA
