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creativity said:
Don't second guess yourself. I feel the same way about it. It's a good movie, but it's by no means transcendent. That you picked up on the active tradition the movie plays with is proof that you "got it"---what there is to get. If you start looking at his other films from this point of view, you'll see that he's respected primarily for his film literate genre reinventions.

I'm not second-guessing myself, I'm just disappointed that I wasn't big on it (as I always am when I am disappointed by a well-liked film).
 
I really like Down by Law, and I agree with Strangelove that the chemistry between Waits and Lurie is great. In fact, how their attitudes towards each other change is a big part of what made the film for me. And Jarmusch has a way of bringing out the best in Begnini. La Vita e Bella is an intolerable movie, but the man is absolutely hilarious in Down by Law and Night on Earth.

Prison escape is a great subject for movies, but it's been done so often that it's been played out for decades now. I like how Down by Law plays with the 'genre'. Never explaining the how of their escape is a stroke of genius. And the scene near the end where Begnini falls in love is a great homage to The Grand Illusion.

Anyway, Snowman, if Jarmusch isn't your thing then Stranger than Paradise isn't likely to change your mind about him. It's my favourite of his by a pretty large margin, and I think it's very human, but it's very 'Jarmusch-human'.


aaaaaaaaand while we’re on the topic of Jarmusch, I coincidentally saw The Limits of Control yesterday. It has not been received well, but I thought it was quite brilliant, so I’ll ramble a bit on why I liked it.

It offers a lot of meta-commentary on film and art, which can be perceived as either pretentious or thought-provoking, but ignore the deeper meanings behind the movie and there still remains an hypnotic and entrancing series of beautiful images. Tilda Swinton’s character puts it perfectly: "The best films are like dreams you're never sure you really had."

She also mentions Hitchcock, who once said "There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it." The Limits of Control is 2 hours of anticipation, and that’s why it captivated me so much. A bang, whether it’s an act of violence, a sex scene or whatever we consider to be 'action', is almost always the same. It’s often what’s in between that really matters, and Limits of Control is composed entirely of just that (see also: an unexplained prison break). Just like every movie, there is an incredible amount of repetition. But that never bored me because it kept me anticipating the small yet significant changes that occur from scene to scene, setup to similar setup, all the while feeling like a dream.

The one thing I disliked was how Bill Murray’s character spells out the movie’s themes too bluntly. After two hours of near silence, two sentences of dialogue feel like a deluge of exposition. On the other hand, “I used my imagination” has got to be the most 'fuck yeah' line I’ve heard in a while.

oh, and Boris.
 
Caught up with some classics on Instant Watch:

Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972)
Well, this wasn't nearly as difficult or even slow as its reputation led me to believe. Halfway through I would have killed to watch it in HD; the cinematography is beautiful. And its ideas about
how man will toss aside his reality for a chance at love and/or redemption
are profound. Fascinating, moving, and disturbing.

Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982)
I've seen a lot of Herzog, but since this one is supposed to be his masterpiece, I decided to build up to it. Is it his masterpiece? Well I don't know. It certainly is his most joyous movie, so I can see why it's so beloved. It's kinda the flip-side of Aguirre although at times it feels like it could very easily go down that movie's same dark path. It's filled with wonderful moments and performances (Kinski is great and so is everyone else). And the scale of the whole enterprise is simply momentous. I'm not gonna render any flip judgments here but this is a movie I can't wait to revisit, hopefully on the big screen.

Lessons of Darkness (Werner Herzog, 1995)
Herzog's documentary about the Kuwaiti oil fires following the first Gulf War. It features the most beautiful aerial photography I've ever seen. Seriously, Kuwait looks like an alien planet or even Mordor. Not much narration from Herzog, so this one is all about the landscapes, fires, and 19th Century classical music. If (like me) you like Baraka and Koyaanisquatsi you should be all over this one.

Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987)
This is the slow and difficult one, not Solaris. Maybe German expressionist existentialism isn't for me, because this did very little for me. Actually, I liked all the angels in the library and the way they tried to save humans from themselves, but the love story fell completely flat.
 
Timber said:
aaaaaaaaand while we’re on the topic of Jarmusch, I coincidentally saw The Limits of Control yesterday. It has not been received well, but I thought it was quite brilliant, so I’ll ramble a bit on why I liked it.

It offers a lot of meta-commentary on film and art, which can be perceived as either pretentious or thought-provoking, but ignore the deeper meanings behind the movie and there still remains an hypnotic and entrancing series of beautiful images. Tilda Swinton’s character puts it perfectly: "The best films are like dreams you're never sure you really had."

She also mentions Hitchcock, who once said "There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it." The Limits of Control is 2 hours of anticipation, and that’s why it captivated me so much. A bang, whether it’s an act of violence, a sex scene or whatever we consider to be 'action', is almost always the same. It’s often what’s in between that really matters, and Limits of Control is composed entirely of just that (see also: an unexplained prison break). Just like every movie, there is an incredible amount of repetition. But that never bored me because it kept me anticipating the small yet significant changes that occur from scene to scene, setup to similar setup, all the while feeling like a dream.

The one thing I disliked was how Bill Murray’s character spells out the movie’s themes too bluntly. After two hours of near silence, two sentences of dialogue feel like a deluge of exposition. On the other hand, “I used my imagination” has got to be the most 'fuck yeah' line I’ve heard in a while.

oh, and Boris.

"'Ever to confess you're bored / means you have no / Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no / inner resources, because I am heavy bored." - John Berryman

For once, Timber, I disagree with you about something. The only provocative thing about the film is that it's so vacuous, boring and pretentious at the same time that if the viewer doesn't work at imbuing it with a profundity that isn't there, he's made to feel that he's just not hip or smart enough to get it. The ending, in particular, seems intent on accomplishing nothing but flattering the viewer's taste and intellect. We made it this far, we're so hip and bohemian. We get that there are no limits, unlike this square. We'll supersede these corporate types with our superior imagination. *vomit* You complain about the ending spelling out the movie's themes too literally, but the entire film does this with pretentious quotes and allusions, with loads of half-coherent relativistic babble you might find in a bongwater-soaked Philosophy 101 paper. "Reality is arbitrary"? What the fuck is that? And whatever happened to expressing ideas in film form? Even Boris couldn't save it for me. If only I found it hypnotic and entrancing as you did, I might be more forgiving. I sometimes permit my senses to enjoy what my brain can't.
 
taking of pelham 123
good movie. was avoiding watching it for the longest and i shouldn't have!

capitalism a love story
it was ok.
 
creativity said:
"'Ever to confess you're bored / means you have no / Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no / inner resources, because I am heavy bored." - John Berryman

For once, Timber, I disagree with you about something. The only provocative thing about the film is that it's so vacuous, boring and pretentious at the same time that if the viewer doesn't work at imbuing it with a profundity that isn't there, he's made to feel that he's just not hip or smart enough to get it. The ending, in particular, seems intent on accomplishing nothing but flattering the viewer's taste and intellect. We made it this far, we're so hip and bohemian. We get that there are no limits, unlike this square. We'll supersede these corporate types with our superior imagination. *vomit* You complain about the ending spelling out the movie's themes too literally, but the entire film does this with pretentious quotes and allusions, with loads of half-coherent relativistic babble you might find in a bongwater-soaked Philosophy 101 paper. "Reality is arbtirary"? What the fuck is that? And whatever happened to expressing ideas in film form? Even Boris couldn't save it for me. If only I found it hypnotic and entrancing as you did, I might be more forgiving. I sometimes permit my senses to enjoy what my brain can't.
You know, considering that we disagree on the film in general, I couldn't help but laugh at how much I actually agree with your specific criticisms. I deliberately mentioned the themes of the film only vaguely because it did at times veer too closely towards unfulfilled pretension, especially in the scene with Bill Murray. The movie probably would have been better off had it kept these things to a minimum. But I think it excelled in other ways: how it undermined the premise of the movie and the expectations of the audience when it comes to a movie about an assassin, and also as pure sensory stimulation (the two went hand in hand for me). But yeah, that extra layer of the hitman actually representing THE ARTIST is something that should have been done with more subtlety or excised entirely.

Mifune said:
Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987)
This is the slow and difficult one, not Solaris. Maybe German expressionist existentialism isn't for me, because this did very little for me. Actually, I liked all the angels in the library and the way they tried to save humans from themselves, but the love story fell completely flat.
I think it works better if you don't treat it as a 'traditional' love story. The woman is an incentive for Damiel to be brought back down to earth, literally and figuratively, and his infatuation with her is him falling in love with the human race, and accepting reality.
 
Kjellson said:
Fanny and Alexander from 1982, by Ingmar Bergman

This was my introduction to Bergman, too. And my first Criterion, which sent me down a very slippery slope. Which version did you watch? TV or theatrical?
 
bumbillbee said:
This was my introduction to Bergman, too. And my first Criterion, which sent me down a very slippery slope. Which version did you watch? TV or theatrical?
The theatrical, unfortunately, but I'm really interested to see the longer version now.
 
Kjellson said:
The theatrical, unfortunately, but I'm really interested to see the longer version now.

You're in for a treat, then. There's a lot of great stuff that got cut out.

Funny enough, first time I was watching it (I saw the TV version first), I accidentally watched the second episode first, so I was really confused. So the moral of the story is to navigate menus with care.
 
Finished CB4 a little while ago.

Honestly not really as funny as I'd hoped, but a decent rental.
 
Timber said:
I think it works better if you don't treat it as a 'traditional' love story. The woman is an incentive for Damiel to be brought back down to earth, literally and figuratively, and his infatuation with her is him falling in love with the human race, and accepting reality.

This is true. However, I just was not at all engaged by any of the scenes involving these two characters. Even on a purely metaphorical level, their scenes felt a little too arty, self-conscious, and unemotional.

I am absolutely willing to admit that maybe I just didn't "get it" though.
 
Frank "Trashman" Reynolds said:
I saw Green Zone last night and got to hear bitter Republicans bitching about it on the way out.
oh man do i wish I'd seen some of those on my way out. XD

I liked it. Not up there with Bourne, but kept the same action pace I've grown to love.
 
Saw "Up in the Air" 2 days ago. Sat down with ultra high expectations. Was let down. Movie was good not great. It's oscar/lack of oscar performance was inline with how I felt about the movie.
 
Timber said:
You know, considering that we disagree on the film in general, I couldn't help but laugh at how much I actually agree with your specific criticisms. I deliberately mentioned the themes of the film only vaguely because it did at times veer too closely towards unfulfilled pretension, especially in the scene with Bill Murray. The movie probably would have been better off had it kept these things to a minimum. But I think it excelled in other ways: how it undermined the premise of the movie and the expectations of the audience when it comes to a movie about an assassin, and also as pure sensory stimulation (the two went hand in hand for me). But yeah, that extra layer of the hitman actually representing THE ARTIST is something that should have been done with more subtlety or excised entirely.

It's no surprise to me that the reactions are so divergent, and that's probably cause enough to say it's interesting. I suspect its admirers are being duped and flattered. But they might accuse me of being overly antipathetic to what is simply an unusual, challenging film. I think the film probably has the last word here. If only it had suggested, "Opinions about film are arbitrary."

Like I said before, if this were one of those magical films that just seemed to speak the language of my senses, I could see myself believing in it. But I found it stylish, not exactly rapturous. That's not an easy thing to justify, critically, which is probably why, sharp as you and its other admirers are, you can't convince me of its merits. This is territory beyond the jurisdiction of words. I can't concretely explain why I find certain films so extraordinary. Well, not without being reduced to awestruck logorrhea, and that's a habit I'm trying to break.
 
I just watched Persona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)

My third Bergman film and a very different experience than the good-but-heavy-handed Seventh Seal or the wonderful and humane Wild Strawberries. My most visceral response is that both of the lead actresses give wonderful performances, particularly the actress playing Alma, who cycles through a wide range of emotions and hits all of them very well. Those critics that identify the film as being pretentious as hell are quite right to do so, but I think it is semi-aware of its pretentiousness and plays to it. It is as much a piece of philosophy as it is a film; the time of the film is filled with many ruminations on what it means to be an individual and the false visages that we wear every day. At the same time, though, there is a sense (unlike in Seventh Seal) that Bergman is aware of how heavy-handed his messages are, and he tries to diffuse them by playing up the artificiality of the whole experience (the projector at the beginning, the disintegration and reorientation of the film toward the middle); he knows that his ruminations are what propel the story more than the characters, and he simply lets that fact rest. I think that it is a great piece of art, but I cannot say that I 'enjoyed' it (though to be fair, I think Bergman knows that it's not enjoyable).
 
Down by Law is my all time favorite film and I think the chemistry is incredibly dynamic between all three of them, having Zach and Jack (people who are pretty much the underbelly of society while they both go into prison innocent) not being able to leave Bob (a good man who is actually guilty) behind for he showed them on their path for a 2nd chance. I sort of love the genre of 2nd chance films and especially told in a way that feels like a modern fable. God damn, I love this film.

Out of Five Stars and stuff in Italics are rewatches
I watched a lot of stuff the past couple of weeks but only a couple of things worth noting:
1. Baraka - *** 1/2 (Watched the Blu-Ray of it, amazing photography but I thought that its theme was nowhere as strong as Koyansqatsi.)
2. Le Samurai - ****
3. Spirit of the Beehive - ****
4. Tales of Hoffman - *** 1/2
5. Jules and Jim - **** 1/2
6. Husbands and Wives - **** 1/2
(One of Allen's strongest and as someone older, way better than it was since I've watched it in middle school. Probably one of the best films that deal with the collapses of a marriage)
7. The Cove - *** (A little heavy handed and too call to action for me but still needs to be seen by people)
8. The Informant - ** 1/2
9. Up in the Air - * 1/2
10. Precious - **
11. Speed Racer - ****
12. The Castle - *** 1/2
(Should get more credit for being a great comedy that sells jokes that aren't jokes. Soundtrack is still as distracting as the first time watching it and the ending is still one of the funniest endings I have ever seen.)
13. The Thin Man - **** (I can imagine myself getting completely absorbed into all these films. Wonderful wordplay and most of its comedy is pretty timeless.)
 
Just saw Red Cliff aka Dynasty Warriors: the movie. Seriously, Dynasty Warriors seem to be an apt depiction of Chinese battle tactics. It was also preposterous that
the battle of Red Cliff wasn't even in the film! "To be continued" my ass! D:

Also saw Le Samourai again last night after being thoroughly reminded of it by A Bittersweet Life and it is still as stylish as ever.
 
Just catching up on random films. I've liked what I've seen of Edward Zwick (Blood Diamond and Defiance), so tried out The Last Samurai.

Pretty good movie - does the whole Dances with Avatars thing pretty well. I'd never take Zwicks films without a huge pinch of salt because the stories, events or concepts are obviously very heavily tweaked and dumbed down for a fun movie experience, but I like what I've seen of him.

What else of Zwick should I check out?
 
McBacon said:
Just catching up on random films. I've liked what I've seen of Edward Zwick (Blood Diamond and Defiance), so tried out The Last Samurai.

Pretty good movie - does the whole Dances with Avatars thing pretty well. I'd never take Zwicks films without a huge pinch of salt because the stories, events or concepts are obviously very heavily tweaked and dumbed down for a fun movie experience, but I like what I've seen of him.

What else of Zwick should I check out?

I'm trying to think of other things he's done

Glory?
Legends of the Fall?
30 Something?
 
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Loaded the Blu_ray with Up again and the mnore I watch it the more I love it. It was one of my favorties last year already, but now it seems to mesh better in my mind.

Listening to the music is great. Now I realize it didn't really have too much competition for best score.

The focus has oftentimes been on the opening montage of him and Ellie which is completely justified. However, there are other awesome scenes, [articularly his conversation with the boy where it's apparent his father isn't around and him sitting in his chair looking at Ellie's book.

Since they are interspersed throughout the movie, the action parts become much more a part of the background for me which makes them better too since they are not the focus. I completely understand why it was nominated for BP.

As a side note, is Brad Bird a bigwig at PIXAR now in addition to directing? Most of the movies that have come out since Incredibles has something in them that reminds me of his style so I'm not sure if he took over for Lasseter consulting role since he moved to oversee all of Disney.
 
Voyevoda007 said:
District 9
Can't believe the movie was made for only 30 million.

Wow, I had to double-check that because I found it hard to believe, but yep, looks like 30 mil. I guess it helps to have PJ backing your production - Weta probably gave him a discount on the VFX work :lol
 
JGS said:
As a side note, is Brad Bird a bigwig at PIXAR now in addition to directing? Most of the movies that have come out since Incredibles has something in them that reminds me of his style so I'm not sure if he took over for Lasseter consulting role since he moved to oversee all of Disney.

Up had more of the feel of Tom McCarthy in it, who coincidentally had a hand in writing the story (and I'm willing to bet was behind the opening and idea of a man grieving for his wife).
 
Watched a bunch of stuff over the last week:

Good Burger - Just as entertaining and stupidly funny as it was when I was a kid!

Almost Heroes - Chris Farley's last (starring) role. He and Matthew Perry are explorers trying to reach the Pacific ocean before Lewis & Clarke. Not nearly as funny as Farley's other movies, so I was a bit disappointed.

The Haunting in Connecticut - It was interesting, but somewhat slow.

The Fourth Kind - I'd been dying to see this movie since it was in theaters and it didn't disappoint! I actually liked the way the original footage was spliced in with the redone stuff.

Alvin & The Chipmunks - The Squeakquel - Surprisingly entertaining, without the stupid jokes of the first one. Kinda strange that Dave Seville (Jason Lee) became a bit player in this one though.

The Stone Bros - Absolutely pointless stoner flick set in Australia. Hated it.

Penance - Woman becomes a stripper to pay for her child's medical bills, goes to some secret gig to fill in for a friend, and becomes trapped in some crazy man's horrific rehab experiment. A bit extreme for my tastes (lots of mutilation), but pretty entertaining.

Static - Three 20-somethings invent a new kind of cellular technology that is implanted directly into the human brain. They can't get funding from a major corporation so they decide to test it on themselves. Naturally, chaos ensues. A bit predictable but I still enjoyed it.
 
Discotheque said:
Up had more of the feel of Tom McCarthy in it, who coincidentally had a hand in writing the story (and I'm willing to bet was behind the opening and idea of a man grieving for his wife).

I think his main idea was Russell. I wouldn't want to take anything away from Docter and Peterson. You can see how Docter progressed from Monsters Inc. to Up.

I'm not sure about Brad Bird's impact, even Ratatouille is Pinkava's idea really.
 
A friend gave me a few "must have seen" movies to watch a while ago...

Spun - kind of ok but not really a "must have seen" imo.

Requiem for a Dream - Loved this one, great atmosphere and not as much of a downer as I expected it to be.

Brazil - I kept watching it even though it did nothing for me. I was actually waiting for it to end...


These were just the last 3, he gave me 10 or so movies most of which were great.
 
Sunshine - Really enjoyed the first half of the movie. I liked that it started on the ship/mission, no build up on Earth or explanation as to what they were doing really. However, when it took a twist from a sci-fi flick to more of a horror movie for a bit - I was pretty turned off. Decent Netflix/rental movie - but nothing special.
 
That's disappointing that Virtuality only got a pilot, it had potential to be great.

Also I didn't really enjoy Solaris but Stalker and Rublev were both great films. Mallick's my favorite in this type of genre though.
 
Guess I really need to watch some more Tarkovsky then.

Big Fan
This was a beautifully restrained and controlled character piece with a really great performance by Patton Oswalt. I totally felt for, and cringed at, him and his buddy there. The ending
felt like a cop-out though, never really paying off some of the more disturbing aspects of his character
. A pleasant suprise.

The Brothers Bloom
Another empty exercise in style from Rian Johnson. But Brick was fun! This is so in love with its own cuteness and cleverness that I stopped caring about everyone about two-thirds of the way through.

Red River (Howard Hawks, 1948)
Holy shit, what a perfectly constructed Western. And what a performance by Montgomery Clift. How they found a young dude who could hold his own against The Duke is beyond me...in his first starring role no less! Beautiful movie that deserves a Blu-ray release.
 
Danielsan said:
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Lovely little short.
Spike Jonze <3

Arrrrgh, is there some sort of trick to seeing this? I've tried several times to watch it and can't seem to get in the "theatre" - I understand that there may be bandwidth concerns, but Absolut putting a limit on viewers at any one time is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
 
Like most Gaf who probably took advantage of that crazy TRU deal, I picked me up TPatF. I give it an 8/10. Music was nice but the story lacked the epicness of A-tier Disney movies.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Tarkovsky is only slow to people who think that Terrence Malick movies and Barry Lyndon are slow. I like Solaris, but Stalker and Andrei Rublev are his best. Stalker, especially, will test your ability to resist sleep more than any other movie I've ever seen, but it's so worth it. And FWIW I didn't "get" Wings of Desire at all either, but I'm not the biggest fan of Wim Wenders.

I don't know... A New World felt significantly slower than any Tarkovsky film I've ever seen, and I've seen everything he has to offer except for his documentaries. The only film of his that was ridiculously paced was Nostalghia :P I absolutely love the man though, pretty sure I had a marathon of his films within this very thread.
 
Zozobra said:
Arrrrgh, is there some sort of trick to seeing this? I've tried several times to watch it and can't seem to get in the "theatre" - I understand that there may be bandwidth concerns, but Absolut putting a limit on viewers at any one time is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
It can be a bit tricky I guess.
I simply visited the site and checked when the next viewing was.
I then set an alarm 1 minute ahead of the viewing time and entered the site at the exact time.
There were a 1000 seats left when I entered. Great full screen experience. :D
 
I saw the Green Zone about a week ago. The movie was the definition of average. The most witty line was when Matt Damon told what's-his-face "Don't be naive" and that line was so faux-witty that I think I facepalmed in real life. The script was really subpar. The only thing I genuinely liked was how it didn't make the Iraqi leaders out to be some sort of evil, hive minded, "kill america!" sort of force. They gave them a fairly human portrayal. Aside from that... averageness.
 
creativity said:
Like I said before, if this were one of those magical films that just seemed to speak the language of my senses, I could see myself believing in it. But I found it stylish, not exactly rapturous. That's not an easy thing to justify, critically, which is probably why, sharp as you and its other admirers are, you can't convince me of its merits. This is territory beyond the jurisdiction of words. I can't concretely explain why I find certain films so extraordinary. Well, not without being reduced to awestruck logorrhea, and that's a habit I'm trying to break.
I don't think I'd be able to convince any detractor of Limits of Control of its merits, nor would I dare accusing them of anything, as the main reason I enjoyed the film was that it struck a very personal chord... It spoke the language of my senses, as you brilliantly put it. And thanks for that Rosenbaum link; I hadn't read that yet. Not too surprising-- I think he's incapable of disliking anything by Jarmusch (tho he doesn't seem to be too big on Broken Flowers). I like how he liked that scene with Swinton; that was something I particularly enjoyed as well.
 
i need to check out limits of control. i love everything jurmasch does. I don't think any of his films are masterpieces or anything I just love the style of them
 
JFK - awesome movie, thought I was going to hate it since I'm not a fan of biopics, but was totally different. 9/10

Kontroll - another awesome movie, available on Netflix Watch Instantly. Can't wait to see what Nimrod Antal does with Predators. 9/10

White Hunter, Black Heart - Cool story, seeing Huston like that but the movie just felt pretty average. Does what Invictus tries to MUCH better. 7/10

Brooklyn's Finest - Standard story, but I nice opus from Fuqua, very enjoyable. 8/10

Next up to watch: one hour left in Scent of a Woman. Have Cache, Ghost Dog coming on Netflix.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Next up to watch: one hour left in Scent of a Woman, Cache, Ghost Dog.


Wait, what? You've already watched those movies up until they have an hour left? Or am I just reading that wrong?

Anyway, the most recent movies I watched were All Tomorrow's Parties and the Jonze short film, I'm Here. I enjoyed both.
 
Meliorism said:
Wait, what? You've already watched those movies up until they have an hour left? Or am I just reading that wrong?

Anyway, the most recent movies I watched were All Tomorrow's Parties and the Jonze short film, I'm Here. I enjoyed both.

fixed :) and I need to watch I'm Here tonight, heard great things.
 
Oh okay, now it makes more sense. And yeah, I liked I'm Here quite a bit. Helps that I pretty much enjoyed every single song that played in that 30 some odd minutes.
 
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