swoon said:loving your noir impressions. narrow margin is a fucking sad movie. the ending is pretty brutal. it's worth tracking down the remake.
They Shoot Pictures Don't They 1000 update is live. some pretty big changes, fucking Gummo made the list. thoughts? I guess i should create a thread so people can complain about old films, but whateva.
Icheckmovies has me at 920/1013 for the list, but it's pretty messed up (like the rest of their site) at the moment.
swoon said:loving your noir impressions. narrow margin is a fucking sad movie. the ending is pretty brutal. it's worth tracking down the remake.
They Shoot Pictures Don't They 1000 update is live. some pretty big changes, fucking Gummo made the list. thoughts? I guess i should create a thread so people can complain about old films, but whateva.
Icheckmovies has me at 920/1013 for the list, but it's pretty messed up (like the rest of their site) at the moment.
HiResDes said:I wrote this about Precious in an old editorial:
The most surprising thing to me about Precious is how bleak a fate is painted for all of its characters of color and how both the writer and director failed to take any initiative to reinterpret the story into one that was less static and discouraging.
If Precious was intended to paint an uplifting story about a marginalized underdog of color who asserts herself and finds an identity, in many ways it fails to be translated on the big screen.
Precious lives in an overly abusive household, struggles with illiteracy, has a sexually transmitted disease and is a young mother of two (one with Downs Syndrome), so it seems ridiculous for people of color to take solace in the fact that she is only able to find help through the assistance of fairer-skinned people.
VALIS said:127 Hours (2010)
Danny Boyle is almost as bad as Quentin Tarantino in being completely incapable of restraining himself. We have a story here about a canyoneer who became trapped under a boulder and his subsequent dealing with the situation over the following days. Does this sound like a movie that needs frequent instances of jump cuts, fast and slow motion montages and other flashy editing tricks over blaring indie rock and ironic 70s lite rock? Franco is great as the lead, and his hallucinatory scenes are the movie's highlights, but there's just too much style splashed around on a story that doesn't need it. Sometimes Boyle gets it right when he contrasts the majestic open spaces just overhead of Franco's claustrophobic nightmare, and sometimes it comes off like a shitty music video. [3.5/5]
BeeDog said:After seeing the movie and trying to articulate why it wasn't as excellent as I hoped, I found I agree fully with your nice little mini-review. Great lead performance, but the spastic/frantic editing didn't fit the theme, I think.
brianjones said:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Happiness_DVD_cover.jpg
so messed up lol
AlternativeUlster said:I would like to talk about other films I have seen. Has anyone seen 32 Short Films about Glenn Gould? I think it is something that will continue to grow with me even if it could have been executed just a bit better (imagine if that thing had a cinematographer like Slawomir Idziak when he worked for Krzysztof Kieslowski, I would have felt gutted). I wish more people took liberties in biopics like what was done in 32 Short Films for it felt like I had a muh better understanding of Glenn Gould then if it was linear paint by numbers. It is much like how I loved I'm Not There for trying to understand the mythos of Bob Dylan.
brianjones said:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Happiness_DVD_cover.jpg[IMG]
so messed up lol[/QUOTE]
Be sure to watch the sequel, Life During Wartime.
Night_Trekker said:I watched A History of Violence earlier today, having picked it up due to a friend's suggestion. Shamefully, I haven't seen many Cronenberg films, but I knew enough to be surprised when I heard the basic setup for this one. As "commercial" as it may seem in concept, it has real human depth that makes it more than worthwhile. Highly recommended, but be warned: the violence is shocking and grisly.
Eastern Promises is more than "worth a watch" in fact it's wholly superior to that mediocre film.Fallout-NL said:If you liked that perhaps 'Eastern Promises' is worth a watch as well, if you haven't seen it already.
I can't help but notice your rather simple view on the movie is centered on race when the themes presented are about anything but that. It seems a very superficial examination of the film. The skin color of the people Precious gets help from is not the issue the movie is exploring and to reduce it to such and to suggest that this conclusion is all that people of color will glean from it is frankly insulting. Is this only a problem for you if the character who has a bleak fate is a person of color? Or would everything have been OK if the teacher and social worker were a few shades darker?HiResDes said:I wrote this about Precious in an old editorial:
The most surprising thing to me about Precious is how bleak a fate is painted for all of its characters of color and how both the writer and director failed to take any initiative to reinterpret the story into one that was less static and discouraging.
If Precious was intended to paint an uplifting story about a marginalized underdog of color who asserts herself and finds an identity, in many ways it fails to be translated on the big screen.
Precious lives in an overly abusive household, struggles with illiteracy, has a sexually transmitted disease and is a young mother of two (one with Downs Syndrome), so it seems ridiculous for people of color to take solace in the fact that she is only able to find help through the assistance of fairer-skinned people.
Ok, so you've described the main character. Are we to infer that there are not people in the world who are in situations just as dire and desperate as Precious? That they went completely out in left field and created a character so impossibly pathetic that it is not possible to relate to her? Or is it that only characters who are positive, good looking, thin, disease-free, etc., are worthy of having stories told? I guess I'm just struck at the cosmetic examination of a character being used as a critique of an entire film. Maybe you had issues with the pacing, or acting, or plot, but it seems that a cursory character evaluation is all that you needed to determine the entire film's worth.Flying_Phoenix said:The biggest problem with the film is how ridiculous it was.
She - Is incredibly abused at home, failing school, can't read, can't write, has no job, was regularly raped, has two kids, one of the kids has down syndrome, is fat as fuck, is hideous, homeless, never had a boyfriend, and has aids...I think the writers and directors were trying a bit too hard with this film.
Satyamdas said:I can't help but notice your rather simple view on the movie is centered on race when the themes presented are about anything but that. It seems a very superficial examination of the film. The skin color of the people Precious gets help from is not the issue the movie is exploring and to reduce it to such and to suggest that this conclusion is all that people of color will glean from it is frankly insulting. Is this only a problem for you if the character who has a bleak fate is a person of color? Or would everything have been OK if the teacher and social worker were a few shades darker?
Also puzzling is your insistence that the writer and director should have "happy-ified" the film, lest the viewer feel a bit uncomfortable or somehow have the despair of Precious' situation resonate with them. Maybe their intention wasn't to uplift. Or maybe it was, and they trusted their audience would have the spirit to be resilient enough to make it through the grimy shit and come out fine on the other side. Either way I don't bother with concerning myself with filmmakers' intentions. I view what they produced and deal with that. Sometimes movies -- like life -- can be cruel and brutal. And since harsh realities are a truth which knows no racial boundaries, I see no reason why a film should be viewed negatively for reflecting that with a character of any skin color. I'd hate to imagine a filmmaker being afraid to show a character of color in a shitty situation or being helped by a "fair skinned" character in order to appease some vague notion of political correctness. No thanks.
AlternativeUlster said:I would like to talk about other films I have seen. Has anyone seen 32 Short Films about Glenn Gould? I think it is something that will continue to grow with me even if it could have been executed just a bit better (imagine if that thing had a cinematographer like Slawomir Idziak when he worked for Krzysztof Kieslowski, I would have felt gutted). I wish more people took liberties in biopics like what was done in 32 Short Films for it felt like I had a muh better understanding of Glenn Gould then if it was linear paint by numbers. It is much like how I loved I'm Not There for trying to understand the mythos of Bob Dylan.
Count Dookkake said:Be sure to watch the sequel, Life During Wartime.
I'd definitely recommend it, as well. Not really a huge fan of this director's other worse, but Eastern Promises and A History of Violence are two of my favourite movies in their respective genres.Fallout-NL said:If you liked that perhaps 'Eastern Promises' is worth a watch as well, if you haven't seen it already.
ShinAmano said:So I watched Salt apparently the same night that a buddy watched it. I watched the Directors Cut and thought it was a pretty cool movie with a good ending. I talked to my friend and he told me he watched it and the ending was horrible...apparently the ending in the theatrical cut is vastly different and inferior in every way to the directors cut. I thought that was pretty crazy seeing as if the movie ended the way he described it to me the whole movie would have been a waste of time.
Anyhow...4/5
ShinAmano said:So I watched Salt apparently the same night that a buddy watched it. I watched the Directors Cut and thought it was a pretty cool movie with a good ending. I talked to my friend and he told me he watched it and the ending was horrible...apparently the ending in the theatrical cut is vastly different and inferior in every way to the directors cut. I thought that was pretty crazy seeing as if the movie ended the way he described it to me the whole movie would have been a waste of time.
Anyhow...4/5
Cosmic Bus said:Yeah, I've gotta get the scoop on that one, too.
Also, I probably won't leave gaf completely. I'd be bored... My minimal posting will just be confined to this and a handful of other threads.
I've been using Something Awful a little lately and this is what I noticed too. People get banned for fucking everything there. It's insane.Flying_Phoenix said:Something Awful is prestigious and has respectful posters, but the sites security and moderation is ridiculous. The site actually realise on such to make money. Not to mention it's not as active as GAF and all the community is full of a bunch of pussies thanks to its strict moderation.
Drewsky said:I've been using Something Awful a little lately and this is what I noticed too. People get banned for fucking everything there. It's insane.
Rahxephon91 said:So I saw this.
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Sexyness.Salazar said:I don't quite know what expression on the face of this chap is supposed to convey.
I just don't see it. Living with an abusive mother, being illiterate, being a teenage mother, longing for a loving relationship, and somehow persevering through such unrelenting misery is the main issue I saw in the film. Simple film? Yes. Film about race? No. Although I can see making such a (rather large) stretch if the point of your editorial was race rather than critique or review of the film.HiResDes said:...Precious is a rather simple film about contemporary racial issues that might as well have been written and directed by Tyler Perry.
Rahxephon91 said:So I saw this.
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Wow what a movie! I've never seen such a bloated, over the top, contrived, and nonsensical epic ever. I mean the end has like three climaxes. It's amazing and towards the end all I could do was just accept the ridiculousness and go with it.
It's pretty bad and yet I could not stop watching it.CaptYamato said:I hated that movie.
HiResDes said:Hey after I reviewed The Diving Bell and the Butterfly a few pages ago so many others watched it right after...I'd like to think I had something to do with it, even though obviously not everybody read my review
Yes. Although as you've probably noticed I'm willing to concede that I may very well be in the wrong, but when talking about racial issues in films the answer is never all too objective...Even if the director/writer decides to chime in, as ultimately the finished project breathes an entire new life of its own.Satyamdas said:I just don't see it. Living with an abusive mother, being illiterate, being a teenage mother, longing for a loving relationship, and somehow persevering through such unrelenting misery is the main issue I saw in the film. Simple film? Yes. Film about race? No. Although I can see making such a (rather large) stretch if the point of your editorial was race rather than critique or review of the film.
I'm curious though, would you consider the film to be about contemporary racial issues if Precious were white and the only ones to help her were black?
Agreed, except I had no problem with the horse scene at the end or Matt Damon (to whom I'm usually ambivalent). I thought he worked perfectly well in the film. If anything, his performance was just overshadowed by the sheer fucking brilliance of Jeff Bridges. Goddamn he was awesome in this.otake said:I saw True Grit. I loved the writing, I loved Jeff Bridges and the young girl. It was a very good movie. It's amazing how good the coen brothers can be and yet awkward in the same movie. The final moments of True Grit, specifically the horse scene, could have been done better. It was just awkward. Matt Damon was way off here, he had no business in this movie. Yet the dialogue and some scene were very powerful. Good movie.
Ah, ok. So any time two characters of differing races interact, the issues presented by the characters cease to be about their problems or resolutions or character development, but instead becomes a statement on racial issues by default? Am I reading you right?HiResDes said:Yes.
Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not trying to prove you "wrong" or anything like that. I was just genuinely curious if the mere appearance of a mixed race cast de facto implies being a statement ON race, or if I was missing something altogether. I'd no sooner insist you see films interpreted my way than I would accept another's insistence of same, so if I came off like that I apologize.HiResDes said:Although as you've probably noticed I'm willing to concede that I may very well be in the wrong, but when talking about racial issues in films the answer is never all too objective...Even if the director/writer decides to chime in, as ultimately the finished project breathes an entire new life of its own.