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Saw Scarface (the de Palma version) for the first time (uncut, of course). It was great, even if it had more talking than I expected. Loved the acting and the score and the finale was amazing (though I knew how it ended).
 
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Stylistically bombastic at times but certainly kept my attention throughout. I had heard some surprisingly good things about this film and it didn't totally disappoint.

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First time I've seen this and boy is the cinematography fantastic. Like most of Malick films the narrative and dialogue take a back seat to creating a mood and atmosphere.
 
Kick-Ass (Matthew Vaughn, 2010)

After being thoroughly impressed by Moretz in Let Me In, I decided to check out Kick-Ass (with my mom, oddly enough). As a piece of entertainment, it does the job. The fights are cool-looking (if a bit Power Ranger-y when Hit Girl is fighting), the acting is okay (Moretz and Cage were very entertaining, everything else was really generic), it was funny, etc. As a piece of art: no. Just, no. This movie is decently-made for an action comedy, but in an absolute sense, the pieces simply are not there. The actual main character has no real personality and is a pretty morally reprehensible person in terms of the way that he treats the people around him (not that the latter is inherently a bad thing, but it certainly breaks your whole foundation when you're clearly supposed to identify with your protagonist). Worse yet, his 'arc' as a superhero is completely rushed; we get no real sense for his growing popularity or his going out on the job requests so that, when he gets lured into the various traps, there is no real punch. Plus, his relationship with Katie was completely muddled; the idea of her forgiving him instantly out of some kind of lust/caring combination is simply shitty, given that he has just admitted to two very major lies on his part. Her kicking his sorry ass to the curb would have been a much more realistic and poignant way of pulling the rug out from the main character's comic book fantasies (and made the descent into comic bookery at the end all the more satisfying). Movie logic leads me to buy that an 11-year-old girl could be some badass killer after a lot of training (I guess...), but her character was extremely undercooked. The villain himself is a generic 'New York crime boss' with very little to make him distinct; Mintz-Plasse was actually kind of interesting, though, and could be an interesting antagonist in a sequel. Overall, I was kind of disappointed; instead of being a knowing send-up of comic book cliches, it fell into too many itself and was unsatisfying as a result.
 
I went to a screening of Vertigo tonight. The film itself was preceded by an almost offensively bad animated version of Hitchcock's Birds "lecture", and the print itself was surprisingly dirty and flat-looking (it claimed to be the old the mid-'90s Harris restoration in the closing credits). An old man snored behind me through the entire thing and I was annoyed at how hilarious everyone in the audience found the bell tower scenes to be. :\
 
Cosmic Bus said:
I went to a screening of Vertigo tonight. The film itself was preceded by an almost offensively bad animated version of Hitchcock's Birds "lecture", and the print itself was surprisingly dirty and flat-looking (it claimed to be the old the mid-'90s Harris restoration in the closing credits). An old man snored behind me through the entire thing and I was annoyed at how hilarious everyone in the audience found the bell tower scenes to be. :\

That really sucks. I've expressed some thoughts on Vertigo in this thread, but the print not even being good is really shitty; if there's one thing a Hitchcock movie should be, Vertigo especially, it's jaw-droppingly, unbelievably pretty.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
That really sucks. I've expressed some thoughts on Vertigo in this thread, but the print not even being good is really shitty; if there's one thing a Hitchcock movie should be, Vertigo especially, it's jaw-droppingly, unbelievably pretty.

I don't know if I wasn't in the right mood but I watched Vertigo the first time a few weeks ago and unlike a lot of other Hitchcock's films I came away not understanding quite what the fuss was about. Sure the cinematography is beautiful and there is this slow but deliberate pace to everything, but even as a Jimmy Stewart fan, I kind of cared less and less leading up to the final bell tower scene.
 
Watched The Lost Boys. I really liked seeing Cory Haim and Feldman team up as commandos fighting vampires. Really kind of a neat movie surprised I never saw it sooner.:lol
 
master15 said:
I don't know if I wasn't in the right mood but I watched Vertigo the first time a few weeks ago and unlike a lot of other Hitchcock's films I came away not understanding quite what the fuss was about. Sure the cinematography is beautiful and there is this slow but deliberate pace to everything, but even as a Jimmy Stewart fan, I kind of cared less and less leading up to the final bell tower scene.

This was the third time I've seen Vertigo, and in all honesty, it's never struck a chord with me either. I was hoping this would be The One but alas. There are some beautiful frames throughout and Stewart is a pleasure to watch (like always), but it fails to elicit any substantial emotion - or even a sense of involvement - from me.

39 Steps, Rebecca and Shadow of a Doubt, now those are pure magic.
 
Cosmic Bus said:
This was the third time I've seen Vertigo, and in all honesty, it's never struck a chord with me either. I was hoping this would be The One but alas. There are some beautiful frames throughout and Stewart is a pleasure to watch (like always), but it fails to elicit any substantial emotion - or even a sense of involvement - from me.

39 Steps, Rebecca and Shadow of a Doubt, now those are pure magic.

Psycho all the way, baby.
 
Just watched...

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Eh...entertaining at parts and, except for Diaz's shitty accent, fairly solid performances from the leads. So, while I wouldn't call it bad, it's certainly pretentious and falls all over itself while trying to be too many things at once. Is it a thriller? Yes! Is it a sci-fi movie? Sure, why not! Is it a murder/mystery? Okay!

Someone needs to tell R.Kelly to try to stop recreating the "...WTF?" of Donnie Darko with every movie. I think he's a very capable director, but he gets too caught up in the idea of a story and not the execution or how the audience will respond. Maybe he should try his hand at something he didn't write next time.
 
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Just saw this. Man, it was pretty good and at the end you realize it's not all about time travel. It's also about making the most of the time you have with your loved ones. 8/10

ps: Rachel McAdams is so beautiful :D
 
Watched Burned after Reading and The Informant yesterday.

BAR had some funny scenes and was enyoable but the story was kinda lacking. Gets a bonus point for dude from Sledge Hammer 6.5/10

The Informant was awesome. As someone who used to tell people all crazy made up stuff just because I could and they'd beliveve me I loved how Matt Damon lied and then lied some more (I of course just did it for fun not profit). Plus he looked awesome with the stache.

8.5/10
 
Buried

Fine performance from Ryan Reynolds but the film itself feels forced and confusing. I actually had to use wiki to figure out the ending since the last few minutes was so noisy sound-wise.

Jumper

Fun action and location do not make a good movie. The main character (Hayden Christensen) and his GF (Rachel Bilson) are so inept and annoying that I ended up being annoyed by them. I wish the film had focused on Jamie Bell's character instead.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Welcome back sir.

Red Hill - * (only film I saw at Fantastic Fest due to work and money conflicts, sad emotioncon)

Enter the Void and Monsters are on demand. Should I get them or wait until they come to theaters?
seemed like Red Hill couldn't decide whether to be campy or serious, so sad, thought it had potential.

i'd do theaters on enter the void. whether you end up liking the movie or not, that shit was an experience... something just seemed right about seeing it on the big screen. monsters, either way
 
sefskillz said:
seemed like Red Hill couldn't decide whether to be campy or serious, so sad, thought it had potential.

i'd do theaters on enter the void. whether you end up liking the movie or not, that shit was an experience... something just seemed right about seeing it on the big screen. monsters, either way

I could have seen all the films that night too but had inventory at work. Sound of Noise sounded like something that would have been up my alley too. Fuck.

Enter the Void isn't coming to Austin soon so I don't know what I should do. Fuck (again).
 
AlternativeUlster said:
I could have seen all the films that night too but had inventory at work. Sound of Noise sounded like something that would have been up my alley too. Fuck.
That was closing night wasn't it? I ended up doing the party instead of Sound of Noise. Heard Sound of Noise was really good, but the party was pretty great too :) Already got my badge for next year
 
sefskillz said:
That was closing night wasn't it? I ended up doing the party instead of Sound of Noise. Heard Sound of Noise was really good, but the party was pretty great too :) Already got my badge for next year

Yeah, it was the final film of the night. VIP or Film badge? I will get a film badge probably here in a couple of months and get time off next year. I went to quite a few parties this year for Fantastic Fest at least. I sang karaoke with Nacho. That was rad I suppose.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Yeah, it was the final film of the night. VIP or Film badge? I will get a film badge probably here in a couple of months and get time off next year. I went to quite a few parties this year for Fantastic Fest at least. I sang karaoke with Nacho. That was rad I suppose.
haha, Nacho was great. I had a film badge this year, but VIP for next
 
jakncoke said:
the last samurai- i liked it. i avoided it for years because I always figured Tom Cruise in a samurai style movie would be a disaster

this reminds me: i still need to see le samourai.
 
Watched the original Night of the Living Dead - it was good, and cool to realize just how much zombie films and stuff like Left 4 Dead were influenced by it. I'm sure it was scary at the time but it's almost comical by today's standards.

I'm gonna check out Dawn, Day and Land of the Dead now. Any other must-see zombie flicks? I've seen 28 days/weeks later and didn't really care for them.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Welcome back sir.

I haven't watched much recently but these:
OUT OF FIVE
The Naked Prey - *** 1/2
Rashomon - *** 1/2
Red Hill - * (only film I saw at Fantastic Fest due to work and money conflicts, sad emotioncon)
The Red Shoes - **** 1/2

Enter the Void and Monsters are on demand. Should I get them or wait until they come to theaters?

Cut the 'sir' crap, kid.

It was good to see you again, was not sure you would be in attendance. Did Harson make it?

Have not seen Monsters, but I did see Enter the Void...

Probably my pick for best film of the fest. A marked improvement over Noe's previous work. I wept like a baby for almost 30-40 minutes.

Wait for theater. So much crazy visual shit going on, from the first frame of credits, that you would do yourself a disservice by watching it on a tv.

sefskillz said:
That was closing night wasn't it? I ended up doing the party instead of Sound of Noise. Heard Sound of Noise was really good, but the party was pretty great too :) Already got my badge for next year

Sounds of Noise was supposed to be spectacular, but I could not fit it in the schedule either time it played. No way in hell I was gonna miss the closing night party.

Do you think a certain musical performance would be threadworthy? (if it has not already been posted?)

Got my badge, too!
 
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My God what a fucking disaster. This film was just bad.

Okay I'll admit that the film went into the level of quality during it's climax...but than again what movie doesn't?

Okay I'll start with my indepth views:

First let me note that I haven't seen the original Nightmare on Elm Street for quite some time, so long that I have very faint memories of it. Also this has tons of spoilers in it so read at your own risk.

To begin, I'm going to be honest I don't even know how to even start, so I'll just start with the beginning. The movie start off pretty cliché. A 20 something guy is sitting in a very eerie restaurant asks the waitress for a refill, and she doesn't reply. The movie hasn't been playing for thirty seconds yet and it's already fucked up. What's suppose to make the concept scary to watch is that you aren't sure what is a dream and what isn't it, yet the beginning has already made it obvious that it's a dream in the first place. The kid wakes up right when he's about to be attacked he wakes up in a restaurant. Terrible dialogue and mediocre acting follows as his friend sister girlfriend cousin someone he knows tries comfort him stating the dreams aren't real. Then the guy falls asleep again. This time Kruger grabs him from behind as the guy grabs a knife trying to make him slice is neck. You then see him in real-life holding his knife to his throat as that someone he knows approaches him, he then slices his neck and dies.

When the movie continues and we find out that all of these twenty something characters we see are actually high schoolers...is it 1996 again? Anyway a handful of these highschoolers start having these dreams about being attacked or killed by Kruger. What makes it horrible is that most of the time it transitions from kid to kid, scene by scene. Even if you have never seen the kid before or even know them, they start being attacked or killed by the nightmare boogeyman. Seriously it's just dream after dream with at times a completely random kid. But what's equally ridiculous is how casually these kids fall asleep. Sitting up in a chair, doing practice laps for the swim team (what?), it's seriously ridiculous. I don't care if you haven't fallen asleep in 24 hours, you aren't going to fall asleep when you're swimming underwater.

Eventually every kid but two dies. They think that the reason why Freddy is killing everybody is because he was falsely accused of molesting the kids while they were in preschool and that the parents burned him alive for revenge. So Freddy wants to prove his innocence, which makes sense why he's killing them, to push them to the right direction to find clues....:|

Eventually they get to the preschool to look for evidence. This is where the movie starts getting interesting. Did Freddy do it? Was he innocent? Are his killings really justified? And it turns out he really did molest the kids... The female protagonist falls asleep and finds Freddy who explains that this whole ordeal was one big plot to make her super tired and remember the memories so that he has near infinite time to rape her....what?

Anyway the male protagonist wakes her up and they both tag team to kill Kruger. They then decide to burn the body and all the evidence of their sexual abuse... The end then comes and like the original it turns out its a dream and Freddy appears. Now there are movies that work with a catastrophic twist. This however isn't. Freddy was a child molester, and madman, and a murder, he deserved to die. It also really doesn't fit the pacing of the film.

Overall the film is just bad. Again the climax is somewhat entertaining just for them to screw it up with a "twist" that made no sense. The best part of the film is the stylized beginning credits...yeah it's that bad.
 
Flying_Phoenix, I thought they almost had an amazing film, but that there was some tinkering late in the game.
HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INNOCENT! The secret room shit with th Polaroids felt so cheap and tacked on. Thematically, a victim-villain is a great symbol for American horror and they fucked it up.

Haley does fine work, though. Would probably watch a sequel.

Part of me thinks each installment of the classic horror series should be remakes from now on, though.
 
Juliet of the Spirits (1965)
i have some moral objections to this. Fellini cheated on his wife a lot so he cast her in a movie that's basically about his own infidelity, making his imagination and fantasies a way for his wife to escape/cope. while that might work for him, it might not not work for everyone. seems selfish. i dunno, i guess i don't know enough about their private life to judge, but it felt a bit cheap. 8 1/2 deals with his philandering in a much more responsible way. i wish i could separate this movie from real life, but with Fellini they're always so intertwined. BUT apart from that this was all the wonted joy and circus and merriment and turned me into a rapt little kid for two hours. symbolism could have been more covert but i can live with that. minor major Fellini.

Lola Montes (1955)
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssooooohmygooood. the most awesome sets, lighting, cinematography, colours, the most awesomely bloated and subtle and involving and detached biopic ever. the most awesome spectacle of spectatorship. perfect. loved this almost as much as Letter from an Unknown Woman. hail Ophuls.

Gertrud (1964)
adapted from a play, boasts a very small number of shots, camera is often static for long periods of time, yet somehow the effect it brings about and the way i experienced it is very similar to how i saw Passion of Joan of Arc. perhaps it's because the heroine emotes mostly through facial expressions. and i read something that noted how both movies follow someone who unflinchingly stands by her beliefs & convictions, even if that results in tragedy, which is perfectly pespicacious. loved the contrast between the stately decors and dialogue and the emotional turmoil beneath the surface. perhaps the most profound cinematic statement about love i've ever seen.

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967)
this, on the other hand, is theater. it's anticinematic. and it takes place in a world where all our problems can be solved with some sanctimonious speechifying. poor Spencer Tracy.

Interview with the Vampire (1994)
as a kid i loved this movie because of the period it takes place in and because of its sordid splendour. now i saw it as a descent into a woman's bizarre sexual fantasies which include, but are not limited to, hunky dudes with luscious long hair, hunky dudes with luscious long hair walking on the ceiling, and hunky dudes with luscious long hair being immolated. contains the line "goodnight sweet prince, may flights of devils wing you to your rest." GOAT.

The Caine Mutiny (1954)
Bogart's performance is something to behold, but other than that this is a dead dog. no momentum, drama or excitement, and a scene near the end with a lecturing lawyer that is wholly and headscratchingly discrepant and makes it seem like it was written by two people who each had something very different in mind.

Moana (1926)
there's a loose narrative woven loosely throughout, but mostly it documents a culture that is as foreign to most people now as it was in 1926. and as these cultures and most of all their traditions become archaic or extinct due to westernisation, Flaherty's movies become all the more invaluable.

Charulata (1964)
there are probably many subtleties that went over my head since i am ignorant of Bengali history and culture, but as a character drama this gripped me completely. or at least for 99%, as the ending was initially not at all what i was hoping for, but after a while i grew to appreciate it.

Tillsammans (2002)
for a movie about a leftist commune, i was pleasantly surprised at how relatively apolitical this was, and when it does get political it takes an inclusive and mediatory stance. very sweet and affectionate in a very unpretentious way.

Rififi (1955)
i've already seen Asphalt Jungle and Bob le Flambeur and Cercle Rouge so i mostly knew what to expect. this was solid throughout and the heist scene is probably the best of the bunch. and now i know where Ocean's Eleven got its Clooney/Roberts/Garcia romantic subplot from.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Flying_Phoenix, I thought they almost had an amazing film, but that there was some tinkering late in the game.
HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INNOCENT! The secret room shit with th Polaroids felt so cheap and tacked on. Thematically, a victim-villain is a great symbol for American horror and they fucked it up.

I thought the movie was just bad. Bad writing, acting, directing, pretty much everything. But I do agree the fact that Freddy
should have been innocent
was a huge punch to the gut. It was like "Shit we should put a twist to make this film that has been so obvious throughout not so obvious!" "Hey why don't we make a twist that is very important to the plotline and pacing, but not change the plotline or pacing so it makes no sense!"

Freddy also seemed way too invincible in the dreams. I think this was also due to the fact that the film never explains how the dream-killing actually works. Everything just feels so tacked on the last minute.

Also with the end
was she still sleeping the whole time? I mean did she never get that adrenaline needle and kill Freddy? Or did he some how become immortal even in the dream world?
 
Zozobra said:
I'm gonna check out Dawn, Day and Land of the Dead now. Any other must-see zombie flicks? I've seen 28 days/weeks later and didn't really care for them.

Shaun of the Dead :lol

Drop the 2004 reimagining of Dawn of the Dead (dir. Zack Snyder) in there as well. Watch after the original version sometime for context.

Didn't care care for "Land of..." and "Diary of..." myself personally.
 
Last night I did my annual viewing of Halloween III: Season of the Witch.
I still can't believe some people think that movie was good. It's so amazingly bad that I adore it.

Flying_Phoenix said:
My God what a fucking disaster. This film was just bad.

Okay I'll admit that the film went into the level of quality during it's climax...but than again what movie doesn't?

Okay I'll start with my indepth views:

First let me note that I haven't seen the original Nightmare on Elm Street for quite some time, so long that I have very faint memories of it. Also this has tons of spoilers in it so read at your own risk.

To begin, I'm going to be honest I don't even know how to even start, so I'll just start with the beginning. The movie start off pretty cliché. A 20 something guy is sitting in a very eerie restaurant asks the waitress for a refill, and she doesn't reply. The movie hasn't been playing for thirty seconds yet and it's already fucked up. What's suppose to make the concept scary to watch is that you aren't sure what is a dream and what isn't it, yet the beginning has already made it obvious that it's a dream in the first place. The kid wakes up right when he's about to be attacked he wakes up in a restaurant. Terrible dialogue and mediocre acting follows as his friend sister girlfriend cousin someone he knows tries comfort him stating the dreams aren't real. Then the guy falls asleep again. This time Kruger grabs him from behind as the guy grabs a knife trying to make him slice is neck. You then see him in real-life holding his knife to his throat as that someone he knows approaches him, he then slices his neck and dies.

When the movie continues and we find out that all of these twenty something characters we see are actually high schoolers...is it 1996 again? Anyway a handful of these highschoolers start having these dreams about being attacked or killed by Kruger. What makes it horrible is that most of the time it transitions from kid to kid, scene by scene. Even if you have never seen the kid before or even know them, they start being attacked or killed by the nightmare boogeyman. Seriously it's just dream after dream with at times a completely random kid. But what's equally ridiculous is how casually these kids fall asleep. Sitting up in a chair, doing practice laps for the swim team (what?), it's seriously ridiculous. I don't care if you haven't fallen asleep in 24 hours, you aren't going to fall asleep when you're swimming underwater.

Eventually every kid but two dies. They think that the reason why Freddy is killing everybody is because he was falsely accused of molesting the kids while they were in preschool and that the parents burned him alive for revenge. So Freddy wants to prove his innocence, which makes sense why he's killing them, to push them to the right direction to find clues....:|

Eventually they get to the preschool to look for evidence. This is where the movie starts getting interesting. Did Freddy do it? Was he innocent? Are his killings really justified? And it turns out he really did molest the kids... The female protagonist falls asleep and finds Freddy who explains that this whole ordeal was one big plot to make her super tired and remember the memories so that he has near infinite time to rape her....what?

Anyway the male protagonist wakes her up and they both tag team to kill Kruger. They then decide to burn the body and all the evidence of their sexual abuse... The end then comes and like the original it turns out its a dream and Freddy appears. Now there are movies that work with a catastrophic twist. This however isn't. Freddy was a child molester, and madman, and a murder, he deserved to die. It also really doesn't fit the pacing of the film.

Overall the film is just bad. Again the climax is somewhat entertaining just for them to screw it up with a "twist" that made no sense. The best part of the film is the stylized beginning credits...yeah it's that bad.
It was awful. I only went to see it because the pool scene was filmed at my then-high school and the preschool scene was filmed at a warehouse my dad owns.
 
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I really liked it. It kept me thinking about my own life as a college student and the types of big life decisions I will start having to make soon throughout the entire film. Now I've seen this and I've seen Juno a few times, so I think I'm going to watch Thank You for Smoking tomorrow night.
 
I saw "Legends of the Guardians"...i didnt hate it. The first half was slow, and it had a ton of the typical snyder slo-mo shots, but it was at least entertaining.
 
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I think it's a pretty good horror movie that's deserving of it's name, but holy shit, it has the most illogical plot twist i've ever seen in my life. It literally makes no sense, no matter how you try to piece it together.
 
Zombie James said:
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I think it's a pretty good horror movie that's deserving of it's name, but holy shit, it has the most illogical plot twist i've ever seen in my life. It literally makes no sense, no matter how you try to piece it together.


But thats kind of the point.
The women is crazy so logic really doesn't fit. She imagines shit left and right.



I just watched Date Movie this weekend. For a movie with two comedic pros the movie sucked.
 
Zombie James said:


I think it's a pretty good horror movie that's deserving of it's name, but holy shit, it has the most illogical plot twist i've ever seen in my life. It literally makes no sense, no matter how you try to piece it together.


Now I have to watch that film..Is it a normal horror movie or like this disgusting and sick Hostel shit?
 
Jay Sosa said:
Now I have to watch that film..Is it a normal horror movie or like this disgusting and sick Hostel shit?


hmm, it has a few gross out moments. but i'd say its just a good horror movie.



serial killer cuts off victims heads, drags it into his truck, then you see the truck shaking back and forth to let us know hes skull fucking them. then he throws it out before he drives off

:lol
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
serial killer cuts off victims heads, drags it into his truck, then you see the truck shaking back and forth to let us know hes skull fucking them. then he throws it out before he drives off

:lol
this might tempt people to read the spoiler that actually want to watch the movie based off your original post, but WTF?
 
Watched Downey's Sherlock Holmes, Iron man 2 and Date Night

Sherlock Holmes was an ok movie but i really wanted that 'Holy shit!' moment which never came. It just wasn't mysterious enough for me since i pretty much figured everything out before the ending. If it wasn't for Downey's brilliant acting, i don't think i would have enjoyed the movie at all to be honest.

Iron Man 2 was just a good action flick :D

Date Night had its funny moments but it was pretty mediocre. Nevertheless i enjoyed it.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
hmm, it has a few gross out moments. but i'd say its just a good horror movie.


:lol

Thanks, as long as no one get's tortured or I have to witness a 15 minute rape scene by some deformed creature I'm good. And I hate that spoilers are unspoilered when quoting.
 
Jay Sosa said:
Thanks, as long as no one get's tortured or I have to witness a 15 minute rape scene by some deformed creature I'm good. And I hate that spoilers are unspoilered when quoting.


my original spoiler is pretty vital to the story. but the second is a throw away scene that its pretty gross/funny depending on your point of view. Great movie that is French made so it has subtitles. The DVD I saw had option for dubbing.
 
Thanks, I actually understand a little bit of french, had classes in high school (well the european equivalent to be precise) should be good enough to get what's happening in a horror flick.
 
Jay Sosa said:
Thanks, as long as no one get's tortured or I have to witness a 15 minute rape scene by some deformed creature I'm good. And I hate that spoilers are unspoilered when quoting.

Haute Tension is only worth your while if you haven't seen the other excellent French horror movies of late, such as Martyrs, Inside, and, to a lesser extent, Ils, Frontiers and La Horde.
 
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