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MS will have 14 xbox studio games at E3
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Darius87
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how not that bad? looking from games perspective this must be worst generation for xbox ever, original xbox had much better games than xone, but less sales even though it was new platform at the moment and ps2 was dominating.
Alebrije
Member
14 new games , saddly no from Obsidian since they are busy with Outher worlds.
If MS manage to get 3 great games/franchises from those 14 projects would be a winning
Phil is just doing promoting his brand , but remember E3 2018 it was the same and basically nothing changed....
If MS manage to get 3 great games/franchises from those 14 projects would be a winning
Phil is just doing promoting his brand , but remember E3 2018 it was the same and basically nothing changed....
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Stuart360
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Well Froms 'B Team' supposedly made Dark Souls 2, and thats my fave Souls. I wouldnt write off their GOT game, if it actually happens.
Xenon
Member
Ill admit though people having low expectations here are warranted. MS has been screwed by its GaS/Forced multiplayer past and Kinect. So many bad decisions. The biggest for me was Buying the Gears IP and forcing one of their new promising studios to make sequels. Nobody is buying an Xbox to play Gears. It was a safe move to try and capture former success, but as their other titles are showing, people have moved on.
For me every E3 confrence after the XO's release has been a disappointment. Im not expecting much out of this years show. But will be happy to be proven wrong.
For me every E3 confrence after the XO's release has been a disappointment. Im not expecting much out of this years show. But will be happy to be proven wrong.
With all the cross play talk, launching games on Steam, launching games on Switch, I'm kind of intrigued by what they are going to show on the software side. To me it sounds like they have more reason than ever to invest heavily into first party games. Maybe they really are about to blow doors off with games this time. And they are likely to share a lot on the next console. Very exciting indeed.
Darius87
Member
no i'm not fanboy, i had 2 original xboxes and xbox360, i actually doubt many people know meaning of a fanboy they just calling people falsely fanboy, if company sucks i have no problem telling that and if you think i'm lying or overstating something in my post you should quote me on that.Darius can't be serious...acting like a true fanboy, never read so much gibberish in my life.
Here put this on
Wimbledon
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I really want Microsoft to resurrect a big 3. I remember in 2007 they had Gears , Mass Effect , and Halo.
I forget the magizine but it showed Masterchief, commander shepherd and Marcus Fenix all standing next to each other. It was awesome to see those big titles, and these larger then life characters they really defined the xbox around that time.
Hope to see that at E3 , new IP that hopefully they can build upon and make that new big 3, around Masterchief/Halo.
I forget the magizine but it showed Masterchief, commander shepherd and Marcus Fenix all standing next to each other. It was awesome to see those big titles, and these larger then life characters they really defined the xbox around that time.
Hope to see that at E3 , new IP that hopefully they can build upon and make that new big 3, around Masterchief/Halo.
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They are not. (At least not the whole studio)
Outer World is wrapping up, they have started one BIG project for Microsoft in September last year and an addational (probably smaller one) in store as well.
So, 3 we know about existing.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
It's not multiplayer as in a multiplayer only game. It has co-op, so you can play with your friends. It's not a hack and slash game but a melee combat game similar to those 90s Beat em'up(which also had co-op). This project was in works since 5 years, it has co-op because of its structure not because MS intervened. They made a similar game called Kung Fu Chaos for OG Xbox which also had co-op(although not multiplayer co-op).
VAL0R
Banned
3/10
CaptainClaw
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You could've owned a Ferrari and a bar of Gold too...means nothing that previous post from you was pure gibberish
ResilientBanana
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It was lacking, I will not disagree. It was probably the worst Xbox generation on record. But it wasn’t a train wreck.
Lone Wolf
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Microsoft did publish the first Mass Effect, would be nice if they funded a remake of the first game. Doubt it will happen though. EA has destroyed Mass Effect. I expect to never see it again.
sainraja
Member
Stop looking at everything from that point of view (US v. Them) and many people will start making more sense.
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Count me in on the hype.
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Mista
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Pretty hyped! Microsoft
Count me in on the hype.
Alebrije
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Well if that is the case hope Obsidian makes a Fallout Killer ( myabe is Outher Worlds) with similar posapocaliptic lore, something that can compete and surpass Fallout since it seems Behtesda dropped the ball time ago.
Microsoft can keep deliver Halo, Gears , Forza if they keep giving money but what they really need are fresh winning franchises.
Darius87
Member
the point that is worst generation tells it all, but the problem is ms isn't really doing much to become what they were previous gen like, actually they moving away from that.
making exclussives available to pc must most ridiculous move ever, even worse then always online, all this drm stuff beginning of this gen, they made they console irrelevant on purpose, what's the reason owning xbox? i really struggle to find any reason.
i think they understand they can't compete with all these 1st party studios from sony and they giving up, going all in with mighty:
ResilientBanana
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Xbox Gaming is more than just a box in your living room. I personally don’t mind the thought of playing on my TV, then continuing my session on the PC if i had a capable enough machine. But Microsoft and Sony are in the gaming industry, not the console industry. Selling games for a profit is much better than selling consoles for a loss. What Microsoft is doing is something Sony is clearly going to mimic starting with Death Stranding. They would be foolish not to. Whether you play on Console, PC, Streaming and so on won’t matter, platform exclusives will. There are literally more ways to play and if Sony and Microsoft don’t follow that trend others will and consoles will die. They have to keep their users on their platforms to sell games and services but not solely ontheir consolesthe point that is worst generation tells it all, but the problem is ms isn't really doing much to become what they were previous gen like, actually they moving away from that.
making exclussives available to pc must most ridiculous move ever, even worse then always online, all this drm stuff beginning of this gen, they made they console irrelevant on purpose, what's the reason owning xbox? i really struggle to find any reason.
i think they understand they can't compete with all these 1st party studios from sony and they giving up, going all in with mighty:
Sure all that cloud and Kinect was a gimmick and eventually disappeared, but things are changing. The competition is growing and they need to reach out to many, not just a few.
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48086
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Lol, heaven forbid multiplayer games are a focus. It's so shocking there are actual people who don't like to sit in the dark eating their cheetos and playing their single player interactive movies. All that to say, if you like multiplayer games your opinion is wrong.
That was literally his point :/
Stop looking at everything from that point of view (US v. Them) and many people will start making more sense.
That was literally his point :/
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Stuart360
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People keep saying this and it never makes sense to me. Do you think there are millions of PC gamers deperately waiting for an excuse to go out and buy an Xbox?, as a PC gamer i'll give you a clue, they aren't.the point that is worst generation tells it all, but the problem is ms isn't really doing much to become what they were previous gen like, actually they moving away from that.
making exclussives available to pc must most ridiculous move ever, even worse then always online, all this drm stuff beginning of this gen, they made they console irrelevant on purpose, what's the reason owning xbox? i really struggle to find any reason.
i think they understand they can't compete with all these 1st party studios from sony and they giving up, going all in with mighty:
Releasing their games on PC gives them 2 markets instead of 1. Sony should do the same imo, and i wouldnt be surprised if they do eventually.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Didn't even think about DLC, probably gonna take up a good chunk of the 14.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Do you really think the 100m+ userbase the PS4 is gonna end with will not gonna have millions people that have a gaming PC?
midouglas
Neo Member
Definitely think this excludes DLC unless it's a massive expansion to a game as Phil know's he'll be called up on it.
Expecting AAA Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza 8 (infinite just like Halo) and Ninja Theory project. Other announcements will be projects further down the timeline OR smaller studio games similar to Cuphead.
Darius87
Member
with consoles comes easy of use and comfort playing games, now if you migrating from one to another system it's actually oposite from what consoles are and it's unnecessary hurdle.
no ones selling consoles for a loss right now, actually without consoles business game business would decline it's simple as that.
you have to stop believing nonsense some people claiming here(there's no exclussive mark on DS cover
) first of all i wouldn't call that a cover, i can asure you that DS isn't coming anywhere else except ps platforms, simply because decima engine is sony's first party studio(guerilla) proprietary engine and it's optimized for ps4.so how platform exclusives will matter? if it's on multiple platforms so that isn't exclussive anymore is it?
that doesn't make any sense what you're telling.i don't think that's what's gonna happen with sony it would be the end of theyr domination in consoles and gaming business, ms might think like that because they have no other choice they can't beat sony old way.
what market? pirating torrent market? yes that what they get, how many gamers do you think owns capable pc running current gen games compared with consoles? not much. and it will be even much worse when next-gen consoles arrive, and how many hurdles devs have to overcome porting game to multiple configuration, a lot, console market is where all the money are, that's why you won't see RDR2 and DS on PC.
Stuart360
Member
Clueless.
ResilientBanana
Member
You must be naive to the wave of streaming services that are about to flood the market. That's way cheaper and way easier then buying a console.
Next gen will most certainly be sold at a loss, especially in the begining. Year 3 is probably when they will make a little money per console.
you have to stop believing nonsense some people claiming here(there's no exclussive mark on DS cover
You haven't been reading the news then. If it were a PS4 Exclusive, they would've said it. There is no reason to deny it.
so how platform exclusives will matter? if it's on multiple platforms so that isn't exclussive anymore is it?
Ubisoft, EA, Epic, Microsoft and so on, all have a platform that spans multiple devices. Sony, for now, does not.
No one needs to beat anyone, there isn't an end game there. Both sides need to sell games and services, that's the whole point of all of this. To make a profit by having people pay for PSN, PSNow, Xbox Live, Xbox Game Pass, xCloud, etc. RMR baby.
AlexxKidd
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Fair enough, you're right. Allow me to make a quick adjustment to my list:
1. Crackdown 4
2. Crackdown 4 Plus
3. Crackdown Battle Royale
4. Gears 5
5. Gears 5 Arena
6. Gears 6 (concept art, no gameplay shown)
7. Halo Infinite
8. Halo Ad Infinitum
9. Halo MCC Enhanced Plus (playable demo)
10. Forza Motorsport 8
11. Forza Motorsport 9 (early build)
12. Forza Horizon 5
13. Sea of Thieves: Things to Do Edition
14. Gears of Halo (new IP)
I removed Forza Street 2 from my list as I now believe the game will be withheld until XO19 in November.
Pallas
Gold Member
Wonder if we will see what InExile is working on, and hopefully get a better look at the Bleeding Edge game from Ninja Theory, also one of Rare’s old IP’s besides Battle Toads would be nice.
Could you be a little more serious?
Could you be a little more serious?
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Are they though? I'm not. I'm sure Sony are employing a wait and see strategy and Nintendo are supposedly friends with Microsoft now so no beef. It all depends on what those games are. Quality over quantity after all.
Darius87
Member
great argument stuee!!! you've won
. no i'm living in present time while you in the future, and no ones knows how streaming will turn out and you already claim that's it's gonna flood the market. good prophercy my friend. #onlive
now compare that to full console cycle which is around 8 years(sony) so 5 years making money vs 3 years not making money sound like a good deal to me, specially when end of console cycle they would make much more vs lose in first 3 years.
and i'm the one naive. #keep the hope alive.i know, but it has nothing to do with exclussivity like you mentioned in previous comment.
certainly ms need more marketshare from sony and vise versa so there's yours end goal.
CaptainClaw
Member
Man stop, just stop who are you fooling you say you have an issue with MS...whatever sure, but the basis of your argument Has no base, no leg to stand on. How doe MS making their Exclusive available on PC and other devices make them any worse off? Like you don't have to buy an Xbox you some how have this issue with MS not wanting to selling games exclusively on their console? You're living in some fanboy bubble and you don't even realise it...jeezthe point that is worst generation tells it all, but the problem is ms isn't really doing much to become what they were previous gen like, actually they moving away from that.
making exclussives available to pc must most ridiculous move ever, even worse then always online, all this drm stuff beginning of this gen, they made they console irrelevant on purpose, what's the reason owning xbox? i really struggle to find any reason.
i think they understand they can't compete with all these 1st party studios from sony and they giving up, going all in with mighty:
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urmie
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I like the changes. Much neater layout.
The key to Phil's tweet is 14 Xbox Studios are gonna show something. He didn't say all 14 would be showing new games, so some will be DLC related.
"We have 14 Xbox Game Studios games in the show this year"
Of course, we all like surprises.
Cool.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Because it means you don't need an XBOX.
Console development is incredibly expensive. All the R&D creating a console, the software engineers that create the development tools, the hardware engineers who create the physical shape and design of the product, the marketing budget needed to make your product market aware world wide, the money to fund game development and form deals, provide a warranty and customer service etc. The cost of the business is well within the billions. That's why Sony and Nintendo keep Mario and Uncharted and all their IP on their platforms because you need a USP.
However.
A PC/Laptop is used for a great many thing. They are easily available and Microsoft Windows is sold with a staggering majority of those devices. They are produced and sold by many different companies who equally share burden, unlike the console manufacturer. There are billions of these devices in the world. I own a desktop PC and two laptops myself. One being a Mac but the point stands.
If Microsoft show a great looking exclusive on stage at E3 designed to sell me an XBOX and I want to play it, I'm not buying an XBOX, I'll get it for PC. The console becomes redundant and many gamers I know are similar in their approach. My playstation runs my household, it's my entertainment system and the core of my games. Anything else, I have my desktop and if i want to play on the go, I have a Vita and a Switch.
It's simple. You can eradicate the console and save billions. They're only doing it for brand awareness. I stand firm in my belief that Microsoft could go third party with a gaming service on nearly every device and they would single handedly be the biggest third party publisher over night and they'd make far more money licensing the XBOX brand.
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Darius87
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no basis?
are you even reading? all these post from me is about games.well if it's not worse then how it's better for xbox player that these games now are on pc? selling xboxes and playing them on pc must be really good deal for ms? how many xbox players migrated to ps4? decreased fan base accomplished
oh wait they have game pass stupid!!!why i or anyone should get xboxone over ps4 or pc? for what reason? it doesn't have exclussives which in the past they had, the games ms have are same iterattion over and over, and then some unfinished
, that's not apealing at all.
CaptainClaw
Member
That's exactly my point ffs...you don't need an XBOX...MS can be successful making just games why does realising it on other devices affect the game?...you literally replied to what I was exactly stating :/
CaptainClaw
Member
Lol again keep enjoying this imaginary bubble you're in...you literally have no clue what you're talking about if an Xbox player wants to play on Xbox he/she can do whatever the he'll they want...if a PC player wants to play Xbox games on PC he/she can do whatever the he'll they want...does that stop Xbox games from being any good?....no basis?
well if it's not worse then how it's better for xbox player that these games now are on pc? selling xboxes and playing them on pc must be really good deal for ms? how many xbox players migrated to ps4? decreased fan base accomplished
why i or anyone should get xboxone over ps4 or pc? for what reason? it doesn't have exclussives which in the past they had, the games ms have are same iterattion over and over, and then some unfinished
You sound hella stupid
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
No, you very clearly said:
How does MS making their Exclusive available on PC and other devices make them any worse off?
And the answer I provided was they are billions worse off because they're producing and making one of the most expensive consumer electronic products in the world when in reality they can just drop that, license the brand to people like HP, Asus, Lenovo, Dell etc who can create hardware that is in effect "an XBOX" and let them take care of the hardware. Microsoft can then go on stage with millions of Playstation consoles, millions of Switch consoles, all those laptops, desktop computers, mobile devices etc and show why they would be the biggest and best 3rd party developer.
But they spend billions on the console so they are worse off.
midouglas
Neo Member
Forza 8 (Infinite) also...
CaptainClaw
Member
No.
How does it make the "EXCLUSIVES" games any worse off. The guy I previously quoted was talking about their exclusives lmao.
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FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Well your wording was quite poor then because i didn't read it that way. Context please.
Though the answer there really then is they're not exclusives so the question becomes an oxymoron.
Darius87
Member
someone just explained to you in comment #137 and you still don't get the obvious, sorry it's retard alert for you.
ph33rknot
Banned
you shut your whore mouth and keep it closed
CaptainClaw
Member
Exclusive...inclusives whatever I'm talking about their games you would know the context if you read what I was replying to
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