DecoyOctopus
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MURICA, f*ck yeah
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alexandros
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Nah, I don't care for either console so I won't do that. I'm sure an Xbox fan will accomodate you.
Same here. Someone changed it.
CriterionDog
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Dat title change
fastford58
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And then he goes on to talk about "The online backbone" as if the average consumer even knows or gives a shit about the ins and outs of how they connect to a multiplayer game.
Except that it's happened nearly every gen.
8 bit: Nintendo has no real competition
16 bit: Genesis actually outsells SNES in America (though I think SNES finally got an upper hand at the end)
3D Wars: Sony crushes the competition
Age of Dreamcast: Sony again dominates, but Microsoft manages to make a very noticeable impact
Last Next Gen: Nintendo takes the number one spot again out of nowhere, but Microsoft manages to gain a lot of ground and leaves Sony in the dust for a large part of the gen
Next Gen: Consoles become obsolete after everyone just buys a 3DS
Microsoft will likely never be the market leader worldwide, despite what the western media tells you, the two Japanese giants in Sony and Nintendo are far more capable of captivating the worldwide audience than Microsoft has been with their Xbox. The numbers prove that.
For all the talk about how xenophobic Japanese companies can be, the results speak otherwise, both Sony and Nintendo have dominated the console space since Atari burst into flames, i do not believe Microsoft will ever be the market leader.
For all the talk about how xenophobic Japanese companies can be, the results speak otherwise, both Sony and Nintendo have dominated the console space since Atari burst into flames, i do not believe Microsoft will ever be the market leader.
WrenchNinja
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Coming again, to save the motherfucking day, YEAH!
Horrible list.
Horrible list.
Xbox live is better then both psn and Nintendo's services. Only on GAF have I EVER heard psn being such this great online infrastructure.
No one has lost anything as nothing has begun.
Lets wait for sales and genuine responses to released product then if we really must, then people can claim a victor and loser.
Unknown Soldier
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Apparently the strategy is to pay Betanews to post positive articles about the 180.
Bomber Bob
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japan bro
Maybe in politics. I feel like the curse of the third console is a more likely scenario. MS needs to rein it in, they're showing Sony/PS3 launch levels of stupidity and arrogance.
DigitalDevilSummoner
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HORRORSHØW
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The reason why the Xbox One will win next generation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7UJJF3A2ts
DigitalSmoke
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Bomber Bob
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Grimløck;74799871 said:
oh my that was hillarious lol
Facism
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his other point is interesting. Saying MS doesn't really need to outsell Sony for success or victory for their longterm vision and business plan. They've got their foot into the door of the living room and are looking to push their ideas, agendas for whatever services and products into the family space. Taking big steps forward to consolidating entertainment and escapism under the umbrella of Microsoft and their partners.
I can see them being a success there even if they end up being dominated by Sony this coming generation (not a sentiment i share, i think Xbone will end up in the driving seat again). Just a shame that they went about their business, regarding xbone, in a manner that doesn't inspire much confidence or suspension of cynicism for me.
Bacon_Boss
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Let's not forget it's going to be a Fable 4 machine.
Seriously.
For alot of guys I know, what really mattered was the rrod rate on 360.
Alot of my friends have 5 year+ old ps3s that havnt failed
Sentenza
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Can it? Frankly I don't see one single strong point in Microsoft's favor in this "war".
The only leverage they have over PS4 is "Well, a lot of people in the USA market are used to us and we hope they won't give up easily on their habits".
sublimit
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Sony's vision for the next gen console war isn't concerted on a single area. Instead, its putting its money on a holistic approach to winning the hearts and minds of both gamers and media consumers alike. Here's my take on why Sony's on track for making it happen.
The four reasons:
4. Hardware Specs Alone Won't Win a Console War but they can sure help
3. Toppling the Leading Incumbent is Easier Said than Done
2. Sony's PSN plus Puts Microsoft (and Nintendo) to Shame
1. Modern Consoles Are also Entertainment Hubs -- And the Numbers Prove It
The four reasons:
4. Hardware Specs Alone Won't Win a Console War but they can sure help
3. Toppling the Leading Incumbent is Easier Said than Done
2. Sony's PSN plus Puts Microsoft (and Nintendo) to Shame
1. Modern Consoles Are also Entertainment Hubs -- And the Numbers Prove It
4. How is that a plus?
3. Wring, history has shown it is not impossible
2. Live was better than PSN this gen, buy nextgen is unknown especially now that Sony is charging, they have new features like sharing, instant game collection and etc.
1. PS3 was the number 1 Netflix system, I am sure PS4 will do pretty much all the important entertainment functions and I don't think no one gives a fuck about controlling entertainment with Kinect.
The Omega Man
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Grimløck;74799871 said:
well, now I fell ashamed I am not american, I have to move there and buy 10 XBONE's
For some time now (since the coming of Xbox) console wars have become national wars almost. Japanese are described xenophobic and allergic to everything that isn't Japanese (which is probably slightly true) and the American are said to be buying American first (which is probably a bit true too). When the media enter this shit battle of nations, we're all doomed.
The Albatross
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Why is the thread title so irrelevant?
I'm not sure what your point is here; seven is a sensible number, but eight is a bridge too far?
I mean you've bought seven entertainment hubs, and that's supposed to be an argument against entertainment hubs?
Please untangle this for me.
LiquidMetal14
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Admit it Derrick Wlodarz
You've seen Titanfall!
You've seen Titanfall!
Sony has dedicated server access as well, and have said as much. they had dedicated servers on the PS3, and they'll have more of them on the PS4.
Also, most console gamers don't know what a dedicated server is. I've mentioned it in conversation with people I know who play console games regularly, and just get blank stares.
sakipon
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Why is Xbox irrelevant in large parts of the world?
Cerny has said in interviews that the PS4 has a matchmaking system in place that works well, according to his words. I guess only time will tell.
Those XBO/Azure servers are not free to publishers and developers, they've said they will be cheaper than standard dedicated servers, but they're not free, and you can be sure as soon as an EA or Activision doesn't see the financial reasons to keep dedicated servers online for a game, they will pull the plug on that game. Azure is just MS' version of Amazon's EC2, if you go to the Azure site on their site, they don't even mention the XBox brand on the front page, which should give a pretty good indication of where it sits in priority to everything else MS is using Azure for. PR spin is a wonderful thing.
Baron_Calamity
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Wii U's problems have nothing to do with its specs.
The Albatross
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That's so non sequitor I don't even know how to respond...
Felix Lighter
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If the PS2's dominance could be overcome, I'm sure the slight difference between Xbox 360 and PS3 (I'm not even sure who's leading at this point and I'm sure they are ignoring Nintendo here) won't have a huge impact.
well, I got two reasons why this wont happen
1) forced always connected kinect (fuck this shit!)
2) 100 euros more expensive, with a bit less gaming hardware for the money than its competitor
my 2 reasons > op 4 reasons
I think even in 'murica - unless 1&2 change, microsoft will enjoy the bottom place and view.
1) forced always connected kinect (fuck this shit!)
2) 100 euros more expensive, with a bit less gaming hardware for the money than its competitor
my 2 reasons > op 4 reasons
I think even in 'murica - unless 1&2 change, microsoft will enjoy the bottom place and view.
LeeFowler.CU
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This is true. If I'm a parent, kinda interested in gaming but by no means part of a "hardcore" gaming crowd I'm gonna buy the box that gives me the best multimedia experience 9 times out of 10.
So a TV overlay is worth an additional 100 dollars?
I don't see how the Xbone is superior on this regard, really.
You would also need an XBL subscription to access even the most basic functions like Netflix, which isn't the case for PS4.
Because of this and PS Media Server, the PS4 probably does more to serve my media needs than the Xbox One. That might be different if you still watch hours and hours of TV though, but I don't. It's 2013.
Felix Lighter
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From my point of view, which admittedly I'm not a very business minded person so take it for what it's worth, Sony has a very capable media box but they are choosing to market the device to the core crowd right now because they are making a very specific effort to target early adopters.
They are marketing it as a gaming box first and foremost because the audience not interested, or only casually interested in games have many lower priced alternatives for media boxes. The people looking to drop $400 on this hardware day one are likely to be serious gamers, not people looking for a streaming video box. I expect the marketing to shift overtime to balance the focus between the core and the casual but for now they are trying to win the hearts of early adopters.
LeeFowler.CU
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Renting away games for free because your online infrastructure is getting the pants beat off of it by a competitor which costs more and is mandatory isn't a good thing. Last-gen Xbox Live was a much better service, infrastructure-wise, if not feature-wise.
LeeFowler.CU
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It's pretty much guaranteed the apps won't be behind a paywall next gen on either system. This + indie apps + multitasking + cable integration and it's a wash. Xbox One wins the multimedia war handily.
Also, it's 2013 and more households in the US have cable subscriptions than not.
Edit: Some super-quick googling: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/opinion/sunday/ready-to-cut-the-cord.html?_r=0
90% of American households have a cable subscription. Yes it's dropping, but for timeline of next-gen that won't be an issue at all. In any case, cable boxes aren't the only thing you can plug into the back of an Xbox One. They've yet to detail their plans on what happens when you plug a 360 into it.
Impeccable
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I have to admit this article was full of comedy gold.
"GL beating the king, it's not easy~!"
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"GL beating the king, it's not easy~!"
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