And do me a favor, get off your damn pedestal and stop judging other people for how they've chosen to approach this topic. If you want to talk about one specific area of conversation, create a topic and express the guidelines that you want everyone to adhere to. You complain about moralizing, yet ironically it's what you're seemingly most keen on doing yourself.
He was complaining about legalistic moralizing, actually.
One of the many problems we have - including problems with attitudes - is precisely what Gaborn said: That they reinforce established cultural norms. That's why we've been trying to have a discussion about right / wrong in these cases. I don't think he's on a pedestal; he just recognized that we were going to be talking at cross-purposes as long as your focus was on "is" rather than "ought."