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[ShogunX]

Pretty much all of their IP's have become stale apart from a select few. Tekken has been the same game since 1996.

I mean look at the shit they have released for the 360 at retail so far -

Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Beautiful Katamari
Culdcept Saga
Eternal Sonata
The Idolmaster
The Idolmaster: Live For You!
Love Football
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ridge Racer 6
Soulcalibur IV
Tales of Vesperia
Tekken 6

Have I missed anything or is this really everything :lol ?

 

[Jeels]

Well, this is what they get for not releasing Vesperia PS3 worldwide.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Have I missed anything or is this really everything :lol ?

Afro Samurai and Dynasty Warriors Gundam. There was also some weird Warhammer strategy game or something.

 

[SecretBonusPoint]

Yasuhara's 30th Year Anniversary Pac-Man game better be some HOT SHIT. Bizarre that nothing has been shown or talked about it as of yet? 107 days to go...

 

[ShogunX]

Afro Samurai and Dynasty Warriors Gundam. There was also some weird Warhammer strategy game or something.

Well its no surprise that they aren't doing terribly well then. Average games aimed at niche markets surely aren't going to make you a good profit.

 

[Faxanadu]

It's all the Wii's fault!

 

[Shurs]

Tekken 6 should have been out on consoles in 2008 not Q4 09 after Street Fighter IV gave the audience everything they wanted and more.

Apples and oranges.

 

[Chuck Norris]

That's what you get for putting everything you have on 360

That's not meant to be a fanboy slur, but Namco literally put all their eggs in the 360 basket for a long while there, and you don't do that if you're a Japanese publisher

 

[matmanx1]

I know Gundam isn't huge over here in the West but there are certainly enough fans that a non Dynasty Warriors Gundam game that was done with some care and quality and marketed appropriately might sell. It would be an interesting experiment and something fresh, anyway.

I also think Tales could be a winning franchise for Namco in the West if it was marketed and released appropriately. Vesperia certainly has the benefit of great word of mouth at this point and there's some "goodwill" there for HD tales that Namco could capitalize on if they so desired.

Of course they won't do any of those things as they seem to be extremely "disconnected" from their fans and especially their fans in the Western markets. They are like the anti-Capcom in that regard and it's slowly killing them.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

NAMCO should have never canceled Frame City Killer. Easily their most promising title of next-gen.

I'm sure that you're, at least, half-joking, but, sadly, FCK was the last new big thing coming out of them that, in concept, looked like it could appeal to more than existing franchise fans.

That's what you get for putting everything you have on 360

That's not meant to be a fanboy slur, but Namco literally put all their eggs in the 360 basket for a long while there, and you don't do that if you're a Japanese publisher

Are you sure you're paying attention to their release list? There's hardly anything there in the last few years that has been X360 specific. They've got lots of DS, PSP, PS3, and PC going on in the last two years....at least equal to their X360 efforts.

 

[Man God]

In This Thread: A dozen or so PS3 fanboys try to blame Namco's financial woes on a lack of a ToV localized port that would probably sell <50k. :lol

 

[Tiduz]

fuck them for not making ridge racer 9

 

[Bel Marduk]

In This Thread: A dozen or so PS3 fanboys try to blame Namco's financial woes on a lack of a ToV localized port that would probably sell <50k. :lol

I think it'd sell 100k+. But Tales are hardly a solution to they're problem...we just want them :/

 

[arstal]

Wasnt SC IV out in 08 though? Completing with yourself doesnt sound too great but it should have been out in 09.

SCIV sold like hotcakes to boot. I really doubt Star Wars had THAT much to do with it.

SCV here we come hopefully. (just without shitty online or really horrible guest chars this time please)

Why do they exempt Tekken though- I figured that was their biggest bomb given what they expected and what they sold.

Or they can buy SNK and do KOF vs Tekken. I could see that working somehow.

 

[durrrrrrrrrr]

In This Thread: A dozen or so PS3 fanboys try to blame Namco's financial woes on a lack of a ToV localized port that would probably sell <50k. :lol

about time somebody said this.

namco already released ToV once, from what i hear DotNW outperformed it in the states. they released the ps3 of port Eternal Sonata, probably didn't pan out too well seeing as how ToV ps3 isn't coming.

not sure about their other franchises, but in general tales quality has been dropping to hell since Rebirth, not surprised to see it catch up to them.

 

[Monty Mole]

Namco is the new SEGA.

Stupid decisions, not giving customers what they want.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Pretty much all of their IP's have become stale apart from a select few. Tekken has been the same game since 1996.

I mean look at the shit they have released for the 360 at retail so far -

Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Beautiful Katamari
Culdcept Saga
Eternal Sonata
The Idolmaster
The Idolmaster: Live For You!
Love Football
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ridge Racer 6
Soulcalibur IV
Tales of Vesperia
Tekken 6

Have I missed anything or is this really everything :lol ?

Seriously, the word stale epitomizes everything about Namco. The best thing you can say about any of those games (Excepting T6 as I haven't played it) is that some are competent retreads of older games.

namco already released ToV once, from what i hear DotNW outperformed it in the states. they released the ps3 of port Eternal Sonata, probably didn't pan out too well seeing as how ToV ps3 isn't coming.

not sure about their other franchises, but in general tales quality has been dropping to hell since Rebirth, not surprised to see it catch up to them.

I'm pretty certain ToV was outperformed by *every* rpg on the 360. Well okay, not Culdcept.

 

[ShinobiFist]

That's what happens when you don't release any games that don't target your WW audience. The kids want online MP's(Shooters, 3rd person or First)

 

[arstal]

That's like $340 million in US dollars. How are they not bankrupt?

(31 billion yen loss if I read it right)

The real problem is the big-box console model is unsustainable right now. I really think things need to be scaled back costwise.

 

[Zen]

SCIV sold like hotcakes to boot. I really doubt Star Wars had THAT much to do with it.

SCV here we come hopefully. (just without shitty online or really horrible guest chars this time please)

Why do they exempt Tekken though- I figured that was their biggest bomb given what they expected and what they sold.

Or they can buy SNK and do KOF vs Tekken. I could see that working somehow.

Wasn't the 2 million number shipped? And wasn't SCIV massively over shipped?

 

[MightyHedgehog]

If it's going to be all about mining nothing but the past for Namco and many other Japanese publishers who are hurting financially, then it's about time to finally get with Sega on that Tekken/Namco VS. Virtua Fighter/Sega fighting game. That could do well as a multiplatform title and, really, it's just plain overdue after more than a decade of wishful thinking and rumors.

 

[Empty]

I'd like to help them out by buying Ridge Racer 8, but for some reason they won't let me.

 

[GhaleonQ]

Seriously, the word stale epitomizes everything about Namco. The best thing you can say about any of those games (Excepting T6 as I haven't played it) is that some are competent retreads of older games.

I wouldn't go that far, but the sad kernel of truth is there. Namco games never feel like events, and the innovations aren't even up to those of the handheld Castlevanias. They just exhausted everything that they have. I know a 7th Klonoa game wouldn't have sold gangbusters, but that's the only recent franchise that hasn't been run into the ground.

 

[DarienA]

Make another Ridge Racer and Ace Combat for teh consoles maybe you can get moar sales.

Key word being consoles... Ace Combat on the PSP? FAIL.

 

[zeelman]

they released the ps3 of port Eternal Sonata, probably didn't pan out too well seeing as how ToV ps3 isn't coming.

Since when is Eternal Sonata a Tales game?

 

[AstroLad]

culdcept is awesome though. :/

 

[Synless]

In This Thread: A dozen or so PS3 fanboys try to blame Namco's financial woes on a lack of a ToV localized port that would probably sell <50k. :lol

Why would we have to be fanboys? I own and beat it on the 360 but would love all that extra content. However I have friends who have no intention of buying a 360 who would love ToV and I watch these threads in hopes of giving them good news.

 

[xemumanic]

Honestly, a HD Urban Reign with online and co-op?

Day -1

HELL YES

 

[SapientWolf]

That's like $340 million in US dollars. How are they not bankrupt?

(31 billion yen loss if I read it right)

The real problem is the big-box console model is unsustainable right now. I really think things need to be scaled back costwise.

Do you really think that's the issue here? Looking at their output this generation I think their under-performance is justified.

culdcept is awesome though. :/

Indeed it was. Should have been on XBLA though.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Other than Splatterhouse and Dead to Rights, what else has Namco got in the pipeline for current gen console?

 

[distantmantra]

I know Gundam isn't huge over here in the West but there are certainly enough fans that a non Dynasty Warriors Gundam game that was done with some care and quality and marketed appropriately might sell. It would be an interesting experiment and something fresh, anyway.

Battlefield Record U.C. 0081 was a good game on the PS3 last year. It's just not coming to North America. I think Bandai has given up on non-Musou Gundam titles over here.

 

[Onemise]

Namco is now probably planning to make a BEN10 RPG Fighter :lol

 

[Jonnyram]

Namco is the new SEGA.

Stupid decisions, not giving customers what they want.

Namco was basically bought out by Bandai. They've been in a bad way for years, thanks to declining arcade sales and lack of big titles on consoles. They have very little autonomy of their own nowadays, and most of the reason why gamers now hate Namco is due to Bandai sucking the creativity out of them.

 

[Foffy]

about time somebody said this.

namco already released ToV once, from what i hear DotNW outperformed it in the states. they released the ps3 of port Eternal Sonata, probably didn't pan out too well seeing as how ToV ps3 isn't coming.

not sure about their other franchises, but in general tales quality has been dropping to hell since Rebirth, not surprised to see it catch up to them.

Didn't the PS3 port of Eternal Sonata come out the same week as the PS3 port of Bioshock? And which one of those games was marketed? There can only be one. :lol

The issue with Namco-Bandai of America is they expect their games to sell when released against more popular games and without marketing. They marketed DotNW a lot more on the internet than ToV. The only franchises of theirs that have that kinda power are Soul Caliber and Tekken (I guess this one no longer counts?). I think the rest of their stuff either sells because it's popular but not of super quality (Ben 10, Gundam) and the rest sells okay based on word of mouth.

They should be doing what Konami is doing with Castlevania by trying to bring fading franchises back into the forefront for the company. The reason most US fans know of the Tales series because it was the only competent JRPG on the Gamecube outside of Nintendo-developed games, including the push by Nintendo internationally for the game. Namco has done to keep it relevant to US/EU fans since that game, with an inconsistent release record, some games taking eons to come out in other regions, and very little shipping/marketing for the games.

 

[ElectricThunder]

If they'd just bring over Radiant Mythology 2 on PSP and some kinda total-multiverse substantial Tales Roguelike(I can dream and you know the potential for awesome is there!) then that'd be just super---otherwise they've just got nothing that jumps out at me.

 

[Wellscha]

Pretty much all of their IP's have become stale apart from a select few. Tekken has been the same game since 1996.

I mean look at the shit they have released for the 360 at retail so far -

Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Beautiful Katamari
Culdcept Saga
Eternal Sonata
The Idolmaster
The Idolmaster: Live For You!
Love Football
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ridge Racer 6
Soulcalibur IV
Tales of Vesperia
Tekken 6

Have I missed anything or is this really everything :lol ?

Go dance with the angels!

AC6 is awesome!

 

[Agent X]

Looking at the performance of New Super Mario Bros. Wii a New Pac Man might not be such a bad idea.

They should do one, and cast Marty Ingels

Spoiler

or Nolan North

as the voice of Pac-Man.

 

[GrotesqueBeauty]

I curse anyone who has a Wii, likes platformers, and yet skipped over Klonoa.

 

[NinMicroSega]

Hey Namco, how about you release this-

In North America? Surely that won't lead to anymore losses.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Namco should probably spend some more money advertising things that aren't Tekken. I don't recall ever seeing any commercials or adverts for the Tales of games, or the .hack//games which I greatly enjoyed.

Hey Namco, how about you release this-

In North America? Surely that won't lead to anymore losses.

Holy fucking shit. I'm totally going to import this now. :lol

 

[Mejilan]

I'm trying to figure out if this can at all be spun into deluding myself that this can only mean that we'll be getting more localized Tales games.

Oh right. Scamco.

 

[Nairume]

Hey Namco, how about you release this-

In North America? Surely that won't lead to anymore losses.

Sarcasm, no? There's a large enough amount of posters that seem to seriously believe that moderately selling JRPGs would suddenly reverse Namco's fiscal situation.

 

[distantmantra]

Namco X Capcom is fun as a novelty, but good lord it's a terrible game.

 

[imtehman]

In This Thread: A dozen or so PS3 fanboys try to blame Namco's financial woes on a lack of a ToV localized port that would probably sell <50k. :lol

i don't think they're ps3 fanboys, just ps3 only owners wanting a game that could easily be brought over to the states.

unfortunately though, you'd be right, late ports never (i think?) do well on the ps3, so why bother?

That's what you get for putting everything you have on 360

That's not meant to be a fanboy slur, but Namco literally put all their eggs in the 360 basket for a long while there, and you don't do that if you're a Japanese publisher

uhhh

Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Beautiful Katamari
Culdcept Saga
Eternal Sonata
The Idolmaster
The Idolmaster: Live For You!
Love Football
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
Ridge Racer 6
Soulcalibur IV
Tales of Vesperia
Tekken 6

you don't think this has somethign to do with it?

 

[mistuhcahlos]

Hey Namco, how about you release this-

In North America? Surely that won't lead to anymore losses.

I would buy that in a hot second.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Other than Splatterhouse and Dead to Rights, what else has Namco got in the pipeline for current gen console?

The new Ninja Theory game is being published by them, right?

 

[wizword]

Other than Splatterhouse and Dead to Rights, what else has Namco got in the pipeline for current gen console?

They have naruto shippuden fighter for xbox 360/ps3 similar to ultimate ninja which is not only a fantastic game but should sell pretty well.

 

[Nirolak]

Other than Splatterhouse and Dead to Rights, what else has Namco got in the pipeline for current gen console?

Enslaved from Ninja Theory
Inversion from the Timescape developers
Majin from Game Republic
Clash of the Titans from Game Republic
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2
Keroro RPG
Gundam Assault Survive
God Eater

I'm sure they have more, but I'm blanking out.

Not much in the way of especially notable games however.

 

[Bebpo]

Enslaved from Ninja Theory
Inversion from the Timescape developers
Majin from Game Republic
Clash of the Titans from Game Republic
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2
Keroro RPG
Gundam Assault Survive
God Eater

I'm sure they have more, but I'm blanking out.

Not much in the way of especially notable games however.

Yeah, they're fucked. God Eater is the only one that will make any profit because Japan loves their Monster Hunter clones.

 

[EXGN]

Wonder why they didn't include US Tekken sales? Sold around ~200K according to CreamSugar.

At any rate, I'm actually looking forward to NB's games this year. Majin from the Folklore guys and then Enslaved from the Heavenly Sword guys.