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Naughty Dog's "season pass" for Uncharted 3: Disgusting Ripoff or not?
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Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
The game was a ripoff?
Mikey Jr.
Member
Holy shit, people complained about the Gears season pass?
Compared to U3's, the Gears one is like fucking Nirvana.
I am linked in the OP, but yeah, I was dissapointed. We got 8 old maps, ok, fine. I'm not going to argue that. But the other 2 map packs that were promised? 1 map pack was a co-op mission. ND said the definition of "map pack" was a broad term, and that in their minds, a co-op mission is counted as a map pack.
Finally we got 4 new maps. Honestly, I expected 8 new maps at the least.
The whole season pass thing really just soured me.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Just wondering if these developers are really obligated to anything with these season passes?
For instance let's say a developer verbally promises four DLC packs in a season pass, but the game doesn't perform as well as they had hoped. Could they toss in some old content for say the first couple dlc packs, and then just walk away without delivering a third or fourth?
In this day and age of greedy developers and publishers it wouldn't suprise me.
For instance let's say a developer verbally promises four DLC packs in a season pass, but the game doesn't perform as well as they had hoped. Could they toss in some old content for say the first couple dlc packs, and then just walk away without delivering a third or fourth?
In this day and age of greedy developers and publishers it wouldn't suprise me.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
That`s a ripoff, yes.
Sounds like a ripoff to me.
I don't understand why gamers allow publishers to sell them a previous games maps all over again. Don't you already own it? What is it they keep telling me about the 'ownership of digital content'? Is the new look given to these maps just so it seems like the cost may be justified?
Someone will probably moan about me being 'anti-dlc', but just to clarify, i've been mainly fine with what Epic have done with Gears.
I don't understand why gamers allow publishers to sell them a previous games maps all over again. Don't you already own it? What is it they keep telling me about the 'ownership of digital content'? Is the new look given to these maps just so it seems like the cost may be justified?
Someone will probably moan about me being 'anti-dlc', but just to clarify, i've been mainly fine with what Epic have done with Gears.
Porting those maps to a new game with different game modes, balance and abilities and reworked engine is not the same as just giving it a new look, but even disregarding that: if the maps were exactly the same and ND didn't have to do a minute of work to get them working under Uncharted 3, it's still their work and their maps to sell in any way that they want, for any game that they want.
If you own a copy of Uncharted 2 you have the right to play those maps in Uncharted 2 and nothing else. As a consumer you have the right to not want to play these maps again and simply not buy them.
Shin Johnpv
Member
You have a point for some of the remakes, where they went from being covered in snow, to it being the middle of summer. It would require new models, textures etc. Some of the "remade" maps though are literally, ohh it was night time and now its day time. Ohh it was raining before now it's not. It's not really stuff that would have taken long to do.
The fort co-op was the absolute worst of it. Super short co-op, with characters no one wants to play as, and re-uses almost exactly a map from UC1.
Super shitty DLC. Really disappointed in ND with both the online pass bullshit and this.
a Master Ninja
Member
I forgot LA Noire even had a Season Pass. It was $10 (so you got all the content for 50% off), and since they were cases that were originally part of the main game their production values were just as high. Should that content have been there from the start? Probably, but it didn't seem too malicious on Rockstar's part. Maybe the cases were unfinished and it took those few extra months to get them out the door, I don't know.
I bought the LA Noire season pass and I didn't feel ripped off at all. Also, I'm almost positive that we knew exactly what we were getting upfront. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
The only other season pass I got was Call of Duty Elite and the only reason I got that is because I got it for over 50% off and it's already paid for itself.
The only other season pass I got was Call of Duty Elite and the only reason I got that is because I got it for over 50% off and it's already paid for itself.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I paid 25 bucks for 12 or so maps, a bunch of skins, some avatars, a co-op campaign with new voice acting, a new co-op difficulty with new enemy variety.
What's to hate? Old maps are ok by me. What game hasn't released old maps?
What's to hate? Old maps are ok by me. What game hasn't released old maps?
This. I'm happy to support good devs when I can. I don't agree with outrageous prices. But even if I don't like the odd dlc, I consider it more worthwhile investing in a good company than picking up a game from the bargain bin (which are generally mediocre, of course there are exceptions). Some games aren't even worth a $20 price tag. This is one of the last things I'd complain about.
RockmanWhore
Member
Maps should be free, it would be a steal even if the maps were new and great. It divides the user base and fucks up the match making. The only things that should be purchasable in this kind of multiplayer modes are costemic changes (like hats and skins) or XP points.
Companies seem to charge the same for the old maps as the new ones. Or at least bundle them together so you have no choice. All this does is fragment the online playerbase.
All this stuff used to be free, and still is with a lot of games. Even Gears 2 gave you 5 old maps completely free of charge.
reddwarf42
Member
All season passes are rip offs. You have no idea what you are getting. I would be so mad if I purchased a Saints Row: The Third season pass.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Some companies give a pretty clear outline of the content: http://www.callofduty.com/contentcalendar
This isn't a fucking charity.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
After Saints Row debacle I'm never buying a season pass ever again.
No, they have not been half priced ever, although 2 of the 4 DLCs have had 33% sales (Horde pack twice and Raam's Shadow once). But the season pass itself is 33% off buying all 4 DLCs individually, so you wouldn't have saved anything by buying those 2 DLCs on sale.
Now, the season pass was on sale (25% off) on December 30, and that was a great deal for those who picked it up then.
Yep, Rockstar did lay out exactly what you would get in their "Rockstar Pass" in advance for LA Noire.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/31/la-noire-dlc/
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/31/la-noire-dlc/
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Well, you did receive your 3(?) maps and a extra map for co-op mode. I don't see any issues here.
Gears season pass is $30.
Fans wouldn't be asking for remade maps if the previous content released same gen was compatible which it should be. Only new maps should require purchasing. Tiger Woods is notorious for this with courses released each year.
As for season passes, I'm not falling for anyones marketing. Although, Epic did have a good batch of stuff in their Season Pass and one that really made it look like it was worthy of a purchase. But for each good one is a bad one. Tit for tat. Ying and Yang.
LightofRohan
Member
$60 is a lot?
LowEndTorque
Member
Not just a rip-off but deceptive as well.
"4 new map packs" implies something very different than what is described in the OP.
"4 new map packs" implies something very different than what is described in the OP.
It was $10 for pre-ordering IIRC, and $15 regularly and has being on sale heaps of times and is included in the Complete Edition of LA Noire.
I thought it was worth it, you got 4 cases and 3 suits. It was nice and cheap, so I didn't complain.
billy beane
Banned
I was going to buy the season pass for Uncharted 3, as I put a lot of time into Uncharted 2's multiplayer. However, Uncharted 3 is just missing... something. I'm not sure how to explain it, but it was just off. Good thing I never dropped down on it.
Gears 3 however, was a great buy, even if I stopped playing a little while after the 3rd pack came out.
Gears 3 however, was a great buy, even if I stopped playing a little while after the 3rd pack came out.
famousmortimer
Banned
I think it's shitty that they didn't announce what the dlc was going to be... but I absolutely love the uc2 maps (and co-op) so I would have bought each individually. So it wasn't a ripoff for me, I saved money and I'm happy. I do acknowledge that I'm in the minority though.
At $10 a pop the only question you need to ask is whether you would have bought 3 of the 4 packs separately. If yes, the fortune hunters club was a good thing... if no, you got ripped off. But in either case them not outlining what the dlc was is misleading.
At $10 a pop the only question you need to ask is whether you would have bought 3 of the 4 packs separately. If yes, the fortune hunters club was a good thing... if no, you got ripped off. But in either case them not outlining what the dlc was is misleading.
famousmortimer
Banned
If you haven't played it online in a while check it out. It's a much different game than it was at launch. Spray and pray and punch doesn't work at all anymore. They brought the gun game back
LowEndTorque
Member
If you haven't played it online in a while check it out. It's a much different game than it was at launch. Spray and pray and punch doesn't work at all anymore. They brought the gun game back
Seconded.
There were a lot of kinks at the beginning but it plays great now.
Nobody is stopping them from playing the original Uncharted games with those maps.
And OP has now learned his lesson. Don't buy something when you have no clue on what you're getting.
Pachterballs
Banned
plus not to mention all the character models in the UC3 DLC all look worse than they do in UC2 MP.