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When ever i see shit like this, i always think back to Jurrasic Park 2, Dr Malcolm's daughter:


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Did anyone lose their mind back in 1997 when this kid was the daughter?

Everyone is so hyper-sensitive to this stuff now, if this kid was cast now as the daughter of a white man, everyone would flip out and claim some type of woke Hollywood conspiracy!

This was in 1997, was there a woke conspiracy then?
I don't think it "triggered" anybody back then because it wasn't common. Movie studios/streamers literally have diversity quotas now. So you'll have a show like Vikings (when netflix took it over) with a black female leader. You'll have multiple members of the lgbt people in every show and movie.
 
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No, bro, same way man who tells his woman to not dress provocatively/dont go on girls trips/dont post thirst traps on IG is secure enough to do it(coz he knows to not compromise his values for low quality woman, he has abundance mindset aka other options avaiable) instead of a simp who allows his woman to do all those things coz if he doesnt- she leaves him and he has no other option left- aka is desperate af.
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Gamer who calls out woke shit has abundance of games mindset- game caters to women- fine- i wont buy it, i got 100 better ones in backlog on top of 10 new ones coming out this year so i can critique it to my hearts content and give reasons why devs of that game wont even sniff cent of my money :)
If i had to buy/play that one game only i would have scarcity mindset- cant crique it or i wont even be able to get that.
you don't own the product. you buy it or leave it. those companies don't work for you.

And guess what, gaming industry is highly competetive, we as gamers get waterfall of games(mostly low or avg quality but there are diamonds among them, on top us being separate beings with different preferences to a point so one person's diamond might be other persons trash) so we can afford to critique and not buy games we dont like, as long as we give valid arguments, example- pushing clownworld ideology we as ppl are strongly against or simply- game has low quality characters/story/gameplay/combat system w/e, hell person is totally valid to not buy game "just because", maybe they got no funds atm or simply are too busy with stuff irl and thats fine too.
you don't know gaming. all you do is play surface games. you truly have no idea the shit that is out there.

We as gamers dont owe devs our time and money- they compete for our attention and for our wallets, we are the prize, thats the mindset we as core gaming audience have in 2026, we arent those beggars asking for breadcrumbs and devstudio overlord graciously bestows upon us their 70 or 80$ game- no, we are the choosers here, and we are perfectly fine to not chose ur game if we subjectively decide its not worth it- thats decision each person makes for themselfs since again- its our time and money we are willing to sacrifice or not :)
then why cry. no one forced you to buy shit.

this parasocial shit is weird. gaming is hobby you spend money. you don't own it. don't attach your identity to it.

also some gamers are weird as fuck. there are fkers who use funny and cute as pedo radar. just remember this, when you argue about those topics.
 
I need someone to help me understand tho how following and or focusing on statistics is toxic?

For example outer worlds 2 topped off at 18k, that's probably low and if people want to shit on it go for it.. I loved it and platinumed it, couldn't care less what people say about it. Why doesn't that work the same for others?
 
When ever i see shit like this, i always think back to Jurrasic Park 2, Dr Malcolm's daughter:


jurassic-park-lost-world-ian-kelly-malcolm.jpg


Did anyone lose their mind back in 1997 when this kid was the daughter?

Everyone is so hyper-sensitive to this stuff now, if this kid was cast now as the daughter of a white man, everyone would flip out and claim some type of woke Hollywood conspiracy!

This was in 1997, was there a woke conspiracy then?
Pattern recognition requires a pattern.
 
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you don't own the product. you buy it or leave it. those companies don't work for you.


you don't know gaming. all you do is play surface games. you truly have no idea the shit that is out there.


then why cry. no one forced you to buy shit.

this parasocial shit is weird. gaming is hobby you spend money. you don't own it. don't attach your identity to it.

also some gamers are weird as fuck. there are fkers who use funny and cute as pedo radar. just remember this, when you argue about those topics.
Calling out stuff isnt crying about it, i dont tell ppl to buy or not to buy them, but i can voice my opinion and give reasons why i wont buy them/think they are low quality, its normal sharing of opinions.

Hell it can be beneficial coz other smarter non activist devstudio see my train of thoughts and since they wanna make money and be succesful- they make products that cater to me(and other core audience), which is benefitial for the industry- it cuts off the cancer and rewards studios who prioritise game's quality, not pushing agenda, thats basic rule of capitalism, customer is always right :messenger_ok:
My wallet my choice, simply :D
 
I need someone to help me understand tho how following and or focusing on statistics is toxic?

For example outer worlds 2 topped off at 18k, that's probably low and if people want to shit on it go for it.. I loved it and platinumed it, couldn't care less what people say about it. Why doesn't that work the same for others?
Is toxic because people want to live in a world that whatever he likes cant be criticized or ridiculed... safe space generation or adjacent

Just consume product and be excited about next product
 
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I'm out. I can't deal with the constant, high-level Wokism that has infected this board. You guys think you're "anti-woke," but you're actually the most easily triggered, identity-obsessed snowflakes I've ever seen. You've turned NeoGAF into a literal safespace for professional victims.

You claim to hate "identity politics," yet 90% of the posts here are you guys obsessing over the identity of digital characters. You're doing "Representation Matters" in reverse. You're so fragile that if a character doesn't look exactly like your specific "identity" (angry, 40-year-old dude), you have a collective mental breakdown. That is the definition of Woke.

Every day it's the same thing: "The industry is out to get us! The developers hate us! The haircuts are a conspiracy!" You've adopted the ultimate victimhood narrative. You're literally crying over the "systemic oppression" of gamers because a character has blue hair. It's performative outrage, and it's embarrassing.

You've turned GAF into an echo chamber where you can protect each other from the "scary" real world. You can't handle a different opinion, you can't handle a realistic face model, and you certainly can't handle a protagonist who isn't a generic action figure. You've created a "Woke Safespace" for people who are scared of the 21st century.

You guys are the ones walking around with a checklist of things to be offended by.


  • Same-sex couple in a cutscene? TRIGGERED. * Woman has a jawline? TRIGGERED. * Non-white person in a fantasy game? LITERAL SHAKING.

You aren't "based." You're just a bunch of sensitive Karens who want to speak to the manager of Sony because a protagonist's pants are too baggy. You're more obsessed with "diversity" than the people you complain about.

Enjoy your woke little clubhouse of victimhood.
You re not woke. But you support wokes, which is actually worse.
Stay forever in the shadows of the dark web
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Is toxic because people want to live in a world that whatever he likes cant be criticized or ridiculed... safe space generation or adjacent

Just consume product and be excited about next product
I just can't fathom that mindset at all, like I go back to correlating it to sports and I don't go to sports forums really but when I have been there I don't recall anyone being mad having teams or players they dislike, it's just words or conversation... How in the hell can anyone be that worried when they're In control of their own mindsets and enjoyment?
 
This is the most unwoke forum I have been to. This is an absolutely crazy take. We are constantly shitting on woke stuff around here.

I am mostly liberal, but woke is the most unliberal sickness I have ever seen. It has become a cesspool of hate.
 
When ever i see shit like this, i always think back to Jurrasic Park 2, Dr Malcolm's daughter:


jurassic-park-lost-world-ian-kelly-malcolm.jpg


Did anyone lose their mind back in 1997 when this kid was the daughter?

Everyone is so hyper-sensitive to this stuff now, if this kid was cast now as the daughter of a white man, everyone would flip out and claim some type of woke Hollywood conspiracy!

This was in 1997, was there a woke conspiracy then?

No one was losing their mind, because this was not treated as propaganda back then. Now, EVERY major tv show or movie has some (or all) elements of woke ideology thrown in. You can't even make movie that could be nominated to best picture award if you don't have woke shit in it:

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This is FORCED, not subtle or natural at all.

And look at this, black people are 4% of UK population, yet they are featured in 51% of commercials.

You don't see a pattern here?!
 
When ever i see shit like this, i always think back to Jurrasic Park 2, Dr Malcolm's daughter:


jurassic-park-lost-world-ian-kelly-malcolm.jpg


Did anyone lose their mind back in 1997 when this kid was the daughter?

Everyone is so hyper-sensitive to this stuff now, if this kid was cast now as the daughter of a white man, everyone would flip out and claim some type of woke Hollywood conspiracy!

This was in 1997, was there a woke conspiracy then?
Movies always had black characters, strong female leads or co leads, gay characthers.

They were naturally inserted in the story and there was absolutely no preaching. In fact in this movie when the daughter shows up one of the crew members make a joke about it .. something like " do you see any resemblance between them?" .. a simple line that showed how uncommon and odd and even funny that situation is.

Now days is completely different... this things are shoe horned in every movie, and its preached and unnatural, bad written, it would be like every Spielberg film now has a white dad with a black daughter.. after the third one most people would eventually ask "wait ... theres a pattern here"

Theres a reason great female characters like rippley and sara connor were loved.. and current female leads are not ... the writing is not the same, the choices are not the same.


So .. Im sorry but your equivalence is imho completely bullshit
 
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Movies always had black characters, strong female leads or co leads, gay characthers.

They were naturally inserted in the story and there was absolutely no preaching. In fact in this movie when the daughter shows up one of the crew members make a joke about it .. something like " do you see any resemblance between them?" .. a simple line that showed how uncommon and odd and even funny that situation is.

Now days is completely different... this things are shoe horned in every movie, and its preached and unnatural, bad written, it would be like every Spielberg film now has a white dad with a black daughter.. after the third one most people would eventually ask "wait ... theres a pattern here"

Theres a reason great female characters like rippley and sara connor were loved.. and current female leads are not ... the writing is not the same, the choices are not the same.


So .. Im sorry nut your equivalence is imho completely bullshit
Yea I said it in that other thread, now it's just thrown in and we've been beat over the head with it.

I mean it's just the worst over correction ever with literally endless girl bosses, every white dude is the bad guy or a retard or a total simp, every commercial is mixed, nobody can just be friends anymore they're always gay, and none of it is even well thought out just thrown in for the fake virtue signal... That's the difference from back then is it was all put in with care and thought.
 
To be fair the guy got banned immediately after posting his opinion.
He didnt give a calm and structured opinion, or even attacked some random user... he attacked the forum and its administration with a incoherent and bad faith "argument", it was clearly an account suicide. And than he doubled down using another user account. (Who didnt get banned btw)

Everything has limits, blatantly attacking any place you want to be part of is not usually acceptable
 
He is not totally wrong….

… but that is a undignified way to go.
If you don't like it just never log in again.
Don't create a scene. ❤️
Couldn't agree more. Or just ignore the nonsense. Hell, hide it if you have to, it's why the options are there.

Guy isn't wrong, I agree with a lot he said, but I mean, this just ain't it man, lol.

But it's also funny, some replies mocking him for "throwing a tantrum" when I've seen plenty of others say things that are just as head shaking, lol. Some people love to get flustered about ridiculous things/topics.
 
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Calling out stuff isnt crying about it, i dont tell ppl to buy or not to buy them, but i can voice my opinion and give reasons why i wont buy them/think they are low quality, its normal sharing of opinions.
game mechanics=yes
characters looks= yeah, no man.

Hell it can be beneficial coz other smarter non activist devstudio see my train of thoughts and since they wanna make money and be succesful- they make products that cater to me(and other core audience), which is benefitial for the industry- it cuts off the cancer and rewards studios who prioritise game's quality, not pushing agenda, thats basic rule of capitalism, customer is always right :messenger_ok:
your issues is that you want your political views only. by that point, dont bother with the game. the world doesn't revolve based on your views and believes.

My wallet my choice, simply :D
that is the mentality. your money your choice.
 
game mechanics=yes
characters looks= yeah, no man.


your issues is that you want your political views only. by that point, dont bother with the game. the world doesn't revolve based on your views and believes.


that is the mentality. your money your choice.

Are you saying we aren't allowed to critique characters looks?
 
I'm out. I can't deal with the constant, high-level Wokism that has infected this board. You guys think you're "anti-woke," but you're actually the most easily triggered, identity-obsessed snowflakes I've ever seen. You've turned NeoGAF into a literal safespace for professional victims.

You claim to hate "identity politics," yet 90% of the posts here are you guys obsessing over the identity of digital characters. You're doing "Representation Matters" in reverse. You're so fragile that if a character doesn't look exactly like your specific "identity" (angry, 40-year-old dude), you have a collective mental breakdown. That is the definition of Woke.

Every day it's the same thing: "The industry is out to get us! The developers hate us! The haircuts are a conspiracy!" You've adopted the ultimate victimhood narrative. You're literally crying over the "systemic oppression" of gamers because a character has blue hair. It's performative outrage, and it's embarrassing.

You've turned GAF into an echo chamber where you can protect each other from the "scary" real world. You can't handle a different opinion, you can't handle a realistic face model, and you certainly can't handle a protagonist who isn't a generic action figure. You've created a "Woke Safespace" for people who are scared of the 21st century.

You guys are the ones walking around with a checklist of things to be offended by.


  • Same-sex couple in a cutscene? TRIGGERED. * Woman has a jawline? TRIGGERED. * Non-white person in a fantasy game? LITERAL SHAKING.

You aren't "based." You're just a bunch of sensitive Karens who want to speak to the manager of Sony because a protagonist's pants are too baggy. You're more obsessed with "diversity" than the people you complain about.

Enjoy your woke little clubhouse of victimhood.
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Are you saying we aren't allowed to critique characters looks?
Yeah, character design is certainly a part of the game and I will die on a hill with of criticizing that in a ton of the more obvious examples.

I mean look at ME Andromeda, Spider-Man and MJ, and a metric ton more games where either incompetence or messaging took hold.

As for OP, having a meltdown because some folks found the Saros too much of a "modern audience" product is just sad. Mind you there were people arguing on both sides.

That's emotional instability right there and OP needs to look in the mirror and try to figure that shit out.

Also; obligatory:


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Edit: Oh and that second alt "incel" post is just chef's kiss considering that a ton of us here have been married for a long time and have kids.
 
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I'm out. I can't deal with the constant, high-level Wokism that has infected this board. You guys think you're "anti-woke," but you're actually the most easily triggered, identity-obsessed snowflakes I've ever seen. You've turned NeoGAF into a literal safespace for professional victims.

You claim to hate "identity politics," yet 90% of the posts here are you guys obsessing over the identity of digital characters. You're doing "Representation Matters" in reverse. You're so fragile that if a character doesn't look exactly like your specific "identity" (angry, 40-year-old dude), you have a collective mental breakdown. That is the definition of Woke.

Every day it's the same thing: "The industry is out to get us! The developers hate us! The haircuts are a conspiracy!" You've adopted the ultimate victimhood narrative. You're literally crying over the "systemic oppression" of gamers because a character has blue hair. It's performative outrage, and it's embarrassing.

You've turned GAF into an echo chamber where you can protect each other from the "scary" real world. You can't handle a different opinion, you can't handle a realistic face model, and you certainly can't handle a protagonist who isn't a generic action figure. You've created a "Woke Safespace" for people who are scared of the 21st century.

You guys are the ones walking around with a checklist of things to be offended by.


  • Same-sex couple in a cutscene? TRIGGERED. * Woman has a jawline? TRIGGERED. * Non-white person in a fantasy game? LITERAL SHAKING.

You aren't "based." You're just a bunch of sensitive Karens who want to speak to the manager of Sony because a protagonist's pants are too baggy. You're more obsessed with "diversity" than the people you complain about.

Enjoy your woke little clubhouse of victimhood.
This is the perfect post to reference in case anyone tries to "Muh both sides".
 
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