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NeoGAF March 8th/11th Caucus Thread (Wyoming + Mississippi = OBAMATON)
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polyh3dron
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The funny thing is, if Obama and Hillary were characters in Crash and this whole Ferraro situation was a scene in the movie, people would probably call it the most outlandish part of the movie because no one would say something like that.
Special report this morning on what Obama said about a preacher, who referred to white america in the Good Morning America open as the US of KKKA?
LOL - could Obama's lifelong pastor become a liability?
This is some heisenberg uncertainty bullshit - they're going to make it one.
Playing clip of reverend during a God Damn America sermon, juxtaposed with Obama saying he doesn't think the preacher is very controversial.
What a delightfully timed smear piece.
EDIT: wow, this was some fox news style bullshit. I'm floored. Surprised they didn't save this for 4/21.
Also, this preacher does appear to be a genuine crazy asshole.
LOL - could Obama's lifelong pastor become a liability?
This is some heisenberg uncertainty bullshit - they're going to make it one.
Playing clip of reverend during a God Damn America sermon, juxtaposed with Obama saying he doesn't think the preacher is very controversial.
What a delightfully timed smear piece.
EDIT: wow, this was some fox news style bullshit. I'm floored. Surprised they didn't save this for 4/21.
Also, this preacher does appear to be a genuine crazy asshole.
gkrykewy said:
Yeah, He is kind of out there. If I remember correctly he provided a life time achievement award to Louis Farakan and has repeatedly invited Farakan to speak at the church. I mean, yeah, Obama may just be friends with this pastor who just so happens to love Farakan, but if I was going to run for President I would probably be inclined to distance myself from people who have questionable company.
For those who don't know: Farakan called Judaism a "gutter religion" and has made public statements where he said "The white man is the scum of the earth". Obama's pastor also preaches a lot about the Black Value System which is supported by Farakan as well.
Not to say that any of this is a reflection on how Obama himself actually believes, but ya know....the whole guilty by association thing could come back to bite him.
Still, if I was Obama I would be more worried about people finding out that he is good friends with William Ayers (a widely know domestic terrorist who bombed the capital building and the pentagon) and that he went over to his house quite a few times.
gkrykewy said:
Hey, I'm just sayin'. I mean....think about it for a second....if you like knew this guy who made crystal meth in his house or whatever (and had been found and convicted of it before) you wouldn't want to associate with him or let the media know that you were friends with him if you wanted to run for a public office....
Would you?
As I suspected, once again the "Rush effect" has been overstated. The exit polls show Mississippi republicans had very negative views of Obama, which doesn't really support the tactical vote theory. Of course that doesn't mean they prefer Hillary over McCain.
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/mysterypollster/2008/031208.htm
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/mysterypollster/2008/031208.htm
PhoenixDark
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Incognito said:
I agree 100%. Some people are impressed with his loud hyperbole but it always turns me off
teruterubozu
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His whole "shame on you" finger-wagging shit gets tiresome.
Also he doesn't have the sway of Murrow so it is just plain silly. Murrow did his pieces on the network news, back when *EVERYONE* watched the network news. Keith does his on a small-time cable channel.
Only those who are already believers in the style of liberalism that Keith talks about see it, it sways no one. It makes his rants more silly cause unlike Murrow he isn't reaching the country at large.
Only those who are already believers in the style of liberalism that Keith talks about see it, it sways no one. It makes his rants more silly cause unlike Murrow he isn't reaching the country at large.
Cheebs said:
It's not saying much (anything?), but he's still pretty much better than anyone else on cable news. Most of those shows are so bad they're painful and embarassing to watch. Not because of the politics either (those actually make them bearable sometimes. see, e.g., Lou Dobbs' "analysis"--farcical and wonderful).
The one thing I wish Olbermann didn't do is the Hard Copy/tabloid type bullshit like "worst person ever." I hate jokey shit on news shows (Cooper's daily caption contest makes me want to gouge my eyes out), and it's pervasive on all of them. I'm not expecting McNeil Lehrer but I'm also not watching E! for a reason.
Cheebs said:
My point being that it's rarely funny and it usually just serves to weaken his legitimate points and attacks through hyperbole. Like I said, "I'm not expecting McNeil Lehrer," nor am I condeming all humor, I'm just saying the humor as it's currently employed often serves to cheapen the show to its detriment.
DeathbyVolcano
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Fuck, I need to watch Good Night and Good Luck again. What a fuckawesome movie.
Xisiqomelir
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Cheebs said:
That would be cool if "worst person in the world" was funny, but it's not. I like his screeds though.
electricpirate
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syllogism said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
So awesome. So very awesome.
Not smart strategically though, saying "We need a woman in the whitehouse" suggests Women > men, and divides people along gender lines.
It appears neither candidate has been able to secure the much coveted Gravel endorsement
http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/gravel-defectin.html
http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/gravel-defectin.html
Xisiqomelir
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gkrykewy said:
Genetic predisposition towards mathematics confirmed.
electricpirate
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Gravel will always have my respect for this bit
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...l=7&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Give em Hell Gravel!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...l=7&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Give em Hell Gravel!
NPR had an interview with Clinton this morning on Morning Edition. An infuriating interview. Nothing really new. Among the tidbits:
--Michigan was "fair" because Obama chose to take his name off the ballot.
--Pushed "big state" meme
--Said super delegates are just as valid as those selected via primary (she said the same about caucus delegates, though denigrating them as being selected by "small gatherings") and implied she's fine having supers over-ride the will of the voters.
--Flat-out lied about her saying McCain was more qualified that Obama to be president "I didn't say that".
Nothing new, but the way it came out was just sleazy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88165077
--Michigan was "fair" because Obama chose to take his name off the ballot.
--Pushed "big state" meme
--Said super delegates are just as valid as those selected via primary (she said the same about caucus delegates, though denigrating them as being selected by "small gatherings") and implied she's fine having supers over-ride the will of the voters.
--Flat-out lied about her saying McCain was more qualified that Obama to be president "I didn't say that".
Nothing new, but the way it came out was just sleazy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88165077
Very selective list of states.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Slate updated their delegate calculator
http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/
http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/
Mr. Lemming
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Just a reminder for PA residents to register to vote by the deadline of March 24th. Even if you do it online you still need to mail the registration in to your county office, so do it today if you haven't already so it gets there in time!
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