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New build of Killzone Shadow Fall shows improvements
- Thread starter SniperHunter
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On the other side of the wall.
Personally I think it's just an un-inspired cookie cutter go to response some people use to criticise games went they can't come up with anything more valid or with greater merit.
lol at the "next-gen gameplay" discussion.
Then:
Forza is about Gen 4 with the PSOne, Gran Turismo did it first.
Knack? That shit is Gen 4 all the way. Crash Bandicoot, lol.
Ryse is Gen 5, some God of War level stuff right there.
Dead Rising 3 is Gen 5, same as the previous one and very State of Emergency, let's ignore the fact that it actually runs well and has good looking environments now.
Killer Instinct is straight-up SF2 arcade-level gameplay, totally pointless.
...
Resogun is Gen 1
This distinction is incredibly silly. More Resoguns and Killer Instincts, please. Don't let these complaints homogenize the industry intro endless bloated "open world" experiences.
Then:
Forza is about Gen 4 with the PSOne, Gran Turismo did it first.
Knack? That shit is Gen 4 all the way. Crash Bandicoot, lol.
Ryse is Gen 5, some God of War level stuff right there.
Dead Rising 3 is Gen 5, same as the previous one and very State of Emergency, let's ignore the fact that it actually runs well and has good looking environments now.
Killer Instinct is straight-up SF2 arcade-level gameplay, totally pointless.
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Resogun is Gen 1
This distinction is incredibly silly. More Resoguns and Killer Instincts, please. Don't let these complaints homogenize the industry intro endless bloated "open world" experiences.
A bunch of streamlined elements from other games packed into a robot with a name. Not what I would call next gen gameplay.
Callibretto
Member
Honestly how many of current gen gameplay cant be done on last gen if we take graphic out of equation? I think ps2 can run tlou gameplay if we downgrade the visual enough...
I think we have the exact same topic early this gen during transition period
I think we have the exact same topic early this gen during transition period
Hot damn, you dug your heels so much in one spot, that you are damn near buried in the sand by now.
Give me an example, just one example, of gameplay that cannot be replicated on PS3 or 360.
You played it? How was the Singleplayer story?
SniperHunter
Banned
As long as it is a solid single player FPS who the fuck cares? What was the last AWESOME single player FPS you played? Last great one for me was Far Cry 3, but I liked it for the open world elements, the story etc were all crap.
The multiplayer is v-synced at 60 FPS, this won't have tearing. It's a work in progress build. As for the 30 FPS, I played Crysis 3 @ 1080p 30 FPS on ultra since my FPS was fluctuating too much without the 30 FPS lock. Nothing wrong with that
SolidSnakex
Member
The multiplayer is 60fps.
Ghost Cell
Banned
The screen tearing is concerning, but as mentioned I'm sure it will be ironed out, hopefully. Everything else is looking very polished and tight. I'm looking forward to playing this on launch day.
Framerate and year don't correlate. It doesn't make sense. In regards to screen tearing, sometimes work-in-progress builds of games will have things like tearing, and can be ironed out by release.
I can't honestly remember since they all try to be the same game. Probably Crysis 1 or COD 4, both 2007 games.
(Far Cry 3 had an awful open world by the way. Typical Ubisoft filler game)
Metro games have pretty outstanding campaigns.
SniperHunter
Banned
I really should get to the first one some day. I always play the first hour and end up stopping. The gifs of the new one make it look amazing but I'm assuming they were on a high end PC...mine can barely handle 2033 on high lol.
R3TRO
Member
Nailed it, but it is very entertaining so kudos to all involved.
SniperHunter
Banned
Yes 2007! Yes I think the last great one for me Crysis Warhead (but I haven't played the latest Halo games). Far Cry 3 was ok but like I said, i only liked it for the open world.
As long this game delivers a solid FPS experience I don't think anyone should complaint. The single player FPS genre has suffered a lot in the last few years.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
With these graphics at launch I'm really wondering how PS4/Xone titles will look in 5ish years.
The ironic thing is, his taste in games isn't particularly inspiring anyway. And Deus Ex, which he champions in his Avatar, also did nothing revolutionary or new, yet is one of his favourite games. And that's the point, games don't have to be revolutionary to be great, they just have to have excellent execution. It's why REV09 will buy Forza 5 despite it barely being that different from Forza 4 gameplay wise, why Derick will buy Deus Ex 2: Cyborg Evolution despite it doing hardly anything ground breaking gameplay wise, and why I'll buy Killzone Shadow Fall despite it not being revolutionary (though it is a big departure for the franchise itself). None of these games need to re-invent the wheel, they just need to make sure their wheel is damn well designed.
DirgeExtinction
Member
So please, do give an example of what you would consider "next gen gameplay". Since obviously you know exactly what you want. Give precise examples.
I'm not seeing any screen tearing and I'm normally pretty sensitive to it.
TheRealTalker
Banned
your making the OT? ....cool make it soo awesome also and the lore pic from that thread
SniperHunter
Banned
As long as Killzone Shadow Fall has good level design and good AI, it will stand out IMO.
It needs more open ended levels like this one.
GG got rid of the awful pointless cut scenes that were in KZ2 and KZ3 - the scripting here seems a lot better
It has no infinite spawning enemies
Everything they have shown here looks great!
it's an old build, don't worry about it. It's missing a bunch of effects as well
It needs more open ended levels like this one.
GG got rid of the awful pointless cut scenes that were in KZ2 and KZ3 - the scripting here seems a lot better
It has no infinite spawning enemies
Everything they have shown here looks great!
it's an old build, don't worry about it. It's missing a bunch of effects as well
I honestly think at this point that he just really loves seeing how hard he can push the envelope before GAF gets sick of his shit and he gets banned again. Plus he uses the same tired tactics + arguments in threads over and over again:
"This game doesn't innovate, what's the point? Not impressed. Someone already did this."
Someone responds. His replies: "Ok X Y and Z is not innovative, try again lol. Seen it before!!"
Basically Derrick boils down to this episode of South Park:
"Simpsons already did it. SIMPSONS DID IT, SIMPSONS DID IT!"
Deus Ex 1 was unbelievably unique when it came out. Still is really since game design and level design only went south as the years went on. I'll say for the second time in this thread don't assume I love a game just because I use it as my avatar, that's faulty logic for anyone not just me.
SniperHunter said:
I get what you're saying and you're probably right. It's just how many FPS games need to come out that are mostly the same before we stop being ok with it? The fact that this is a new generation only amplifies this feeling for me. I guess I'll just sigh and give up hope. Maybe if we're lucky this game will do something, anything, new.
Dictator93
Member
I think they are showing the game that way because that is the new gameplay they are targetting.
I agree with you about Deus Ex (1). It's one of my fave games of all time and genuinely left an impact when it first came out, but I wasn't nearly as keen on Human Revolution.
But what are your favourite modern games? And what do you consider next gen gameplay? Some examples would be nice.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Haven't watched the video yet, but screen tearing is unacceptable. KZ2/3 never had that, right? Fix this shit, Guerilla!
BadAss2961
Member
Regardless, the Human Revolution avatar does provide hilarious irony to a lot of your posts.
I'm sorry, what? Crysis does not have one big island. The island is segmented into levels much the same way a game like Halo is. There are distinct levels with distinct objectives and distinct load screens and so on and so forth.
EightBitNate
Member
Everytime it's shown, it looks more and more of what Crysis 2 should have been.
Fingers crossed!
SniperHunter
Banned
Agreed 10x. I love what Guerrilla is doing with this game. It is going to be PS4's big killer app at launch and will sell a lot of systems when people get their hands on it and show their friends.
IHaveCandy
Banned
This game's single player looks much more appealing to me. It's much more like Crysis/Half Life/Resistance. The game is linear, but gives you some actual choice on combat. I'd rather play a campaign like that over the typical CoD style campaign.
sadly, that pic is pretty wide. :/
BadAss2961
Member
I was also under the assumption that Crysis was completely open world before I actually played it. In reality, it's just a series of small open world levels.
IHaveCandy
Banned
So am I seeing this right? Can you feign death in this game?
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
The mist is amazing.