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New DmC: Devil May Cry gameplay [Dante Redesigned Again]

Dibbz said:
Something happened in one of the billion 3Ds threads and someone made a thread in OT about him not being a mod.

http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=441066

The guy banned me for defending DmC at E3. Where is your God now Amirox????!

well, no, he probably took into consideration your horrible personality on the forum, as shown in this very thread with your sobbing and masturbating post aimed at ami and dave.

God forbid the mods look over your input in the KZ3 thread ;p
 
Dahbomb said:
Why would they masturbate over DMC4's artwork? If anything they would be furiously masturbating over epic 10 minute long DMC3SE combo videos like real DMC fans.
Damn right! I'm stealing that 10 minute idea BTW.
 
On the trailer, at exactly 52 seconds, is that a face on the top right of the screen?

Also, could anyone .gif the rising rainstorm? From 46 to 47 seconds?
 
This is the first DMC4 trailer, a year and a half away from its release, for comparison's sake. Now that shit is badass. And looking both trailers back to back there are severe framerate problems in DmC. Seems hoping for 30fps was just too much. :lol

GuardianE said:
Why do people seem to think that Capcom is incapable of using facial motion capture, or that Ninja Theory somehow does it better. Resident Evil 5?

I don't know either, and the facial animation in DMC4 is pretty nice considering it doesn't use motion capture for it.
 
gunbo13 said:
DMC5 brings back Nero and reveals his father was a warlock. 1/4 demon, 1/4 angel, 1/4 human, 1/4 warlock. That's a damn story.
Vergil isn't a warlock. At best his mother could be like a half vampire and half human so Nero could end up being 1/4 angel, 1/4 demon, 1/4 human and 1/4 vampire.
 
Dahbomb said:
Why would they masturbate over DMC4's artwork? If anything they would be furiously masturbating over epic 10 minute long DMC3SE combo videos like real DMC fans.
Real DMC fans masturbate to DMC1. Let's keep that straight, brah.
 
jett said:
This is the first DMC4 trailer, a year and a half away from its release, for comparison's sake. Now that shit is badass. And looking both trailers back to back there are severe framerate problems in DmC. Seems hoping for 30fps was just too much. :lol

And freaking unreal engine is NOT helping matters. Ugh, did Capcom block them from using the MT Framework engine or something?
 
Khal_B said:
And freaking unreal engine is NOT helping matters. Ugh, did Capcom block them from using the MT Framework engine or something?

NT is more comfortable with Unreal. That's what they've used in the past, so it'd be unintuitive for them to use another engine for DmC, they said. Also, Capcom doesn't allow any other developer to use the MT Framework.

lowhighkang_LHK said:
Also, could anyone .gif the rising rainstorm? From 46 to 47 seconds?

Nice catch. That's the one thing that looks like it has the potential to be a positive change to the combat engine thus far.
 
GuardianE said:
NT is more comfortable with Unreal. That's what they've used in the past, so it'd be unintuitive for them to use another engine for DmC, they said. Also, Capcom doesn't allow any other developer to use the MT Framework.

I see. A recipe for disaster for an action game imo, especially for one titled DmC.
 
Dahbomb said:
Itsuno's Dante also visited clubs and brothels. It's in the DMC3 manga, a canonical entry into the DMC series which came right after DMC3 (Itsuno's game). The difference is that Dante in DMC3 and above covered his dark/brooding self with an over the top personality.

And Eva was never even implied to be an angel, she was a human pure and simple. Even DMC1's original tagline was something like "half human, half demon... all vengeance". So no... Kamiya never intended Eva to be angel or Dante to be half-angel. It's a retcon if I ever saw one.

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Edit: typing on ipad.

I never said that Kamiya intended Eva to be an angel.

I said that thematically, a lot of what NT is doing reflects more of the backstory of Kamiyas original Dante. I even remember reading some of the interviews Kamiya ang Mikami did back in 2000. Where they got a lot of backstory questions. Even the flag symbol can be explained, as Kamiya stated in an interview before release that he designed and envisioned his Dante in Dmc1 to be a European nspired guy in his 30s. I dont know wtf tha means, bu maybe this was a throwback to that.

As for the Eva being an angel or human, she was always described as being a pure, innocent character. She might as well be instilled with angelic like chatacteristics. Making her an angel, and we don't know to what extent that means, is simply an extension on the unpure and pure concept that is sparda and eva. One is of evil origins, the otheris of "pure" origins. The overall arch is still the same, dante is a child of two distinct origins. That remains the same.

And finally, some departures to the story are expexted, its a spin off is it not? Which is why the game us called DmC, not Devil May Cry 5.
 
Chamber said:
Real DMC fans masturbate to DMC1. Let's keep that straight, brah.
REAL DMC fans masturbate at the thought of DMC2 Dante design fighting DMC1 enemies with DMC3SE combat engine in masterful 60FPS+ set to the sound of some epic orchestral organ music on a tri-head monitor on PC, set to Legendary Dark Knight mode, with Turbo and all graphics set to ULTRA.

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lowhighkang_LHK said:
And finally, some departures to the story are expexted, its a spin off is it not? Which is why the game us called DmC, not Devil May Cry 5.

It's a reboot. A reimagining. With a movie tie-in.

If it doesn't sell well, they'll call it a spin off. If it sells well, they'll call it a series reboot.
 
Dahbomb said:
Vergil isn't a warlock. At best his mother could be like a half vampire and half human so Nero could end up being 1/4 angel, 1/4 demon, 1/4 human and 1/4 vampire.
What about Vergil and Rayne?
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+
Rayne.jpg

=
DEVIL_MAY_CRY_4___chibi_nero_by_Shiro_Mai.jpg


???
 
Dahbomb said:
REAL DMC fans masturbate at the thought of DMC2 Dante design fighting DMC1 enemies with DMC3SE combat engine in masterful 60FPS+ set to the sound of some epic orchestral organ music on a tri-head monitor on PC, set to Legendary Dark Knight mode, with Turbo and all graphics set to ULTRA.
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Honestly at this point, I could deal with new Dante if they fix his fucking hair to be less douchey. Also I can't help but feel that angel artwork is a total reaction to all the homophobic comments about new Dante. Its a little too perverse for my tastes but kinda badass.
 
Dahbomb said:
REAL DMC fans masturbate at the thought of DMC2 Dante design fighting DMC1 enemies with DMC3SE combat engine in masterful 60FPS+ set to the sound of some epic orchestral organ music on a tri-head monitor on PC, set to Legendary Dark Knight mode, with Turbo and all graphics set to ULTRA.
I guess I'm not a real DMC fan.
 
It's a "rebirth".

Which basically means that if it fails.... Capcom can just push it to the side and call it a side project. If it's successful it might replace the main series as a full on reboot (like Tim Burton Batman movies -> Nolan Batman movies).


What about Vergil and Rayne?
That would be HOT. Too bad their son grows up to be a whiny little bitch. :D

Or maybe Bayonetta with some of that witch action.
 
GuardianE said:
It's a reboot. A reimagining. With a movie tie-in.

That's not true. The movie is it's own different entity. It's been in the works for several years now, in fact. It'll have it's own different story and it may be more in line with the previous entries.
 
It's hilarious that the producer was saying he didn't care about fans' input and now he's modifying Dante because everyone complained about it. It better be 60 FPS or it will be a big failure (are there any 60FPS Unreal console games aside from MK9?).

At least it's good that Capcom is starting to show more about the game.
 
I thought this new movie was supposed to be based off of the NT DMC. I mean the news came around the same time and there was certainly implications that it would use the DmC storyline.
 
Acquiescence said:
I don't care what anyone says, that is some fantastic concept art.

Despite the fact that there's all kinds of horrible stuff going on anatomically, it is a very cool piece, captures the essence of the new Dante. (Old Dante sucked post DMC 1 anyway)
 
Vamphuntr said:
It's hilarious that the producer was saying he didn't care about fans' input and now he's modifying Dante because everyone complained about it. It better be 60 FPS or it will be a big failure (are there any 60FPS Unreal console games aside from MK9?).

At least it's good that Capcom is starting to show more about the game.

Well I think he still looks a bit like the original concept art (I actually wasn't aware of that because I thought the hair was longer in the concept), they just fixed him up so he doesn't look like zombie anymore, they didn't really change him to look like what fans want, not to mention I think he looked like a zombie because he was all bruised up with wounds originally, so this might just be the "after" scenes.
 
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.
 
Dahbomb said:
I thought this new movie was supposed to be based off of the NT DMC. I mean the news came around the same time and there was certainly implications that it would use the DmC storyline.

Snow talked about it on the forums. I can't find the exact post though. It was the week after E3 when he started going on the forums and answering questions.

They timed the movie announcement to go with the E3 showing. That was it.
 
benzy said:
There were vampires in DMC?
Sure, why the fuck not.

Dahbomb said:
That would be HOT. Too bad their son grows up to be a whiny little bitch. :D

Or maybe Bayonetta with some of that witch action.
Nah, let's go with Vergil/Rayne and then Nero/Bayo. Bayo's dad can be a warlock with a mother witch. Then we have angel + devil + human + vampire + warlock + witch in ~17% slices. They have a kid named Constantine who we can also possess with the ghost of Sparda (GoW pun, ha!).

So, am I e-mailing Capcom or you?
 
Vamphuntr said:
It better be 60 FPS or it will be a big failure (are there any 60FPS Unreal console games aside from MK9?).

MK vs. DC and the newest MK are the only ones. I'll post this again since it's a good read:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15118967/Hitting-60Hz-in-Unreal-Engine

Dahbomb said:
I thought this new movie was supposed to be based off of the NT DMC. I mean the news came around the same time and there was certainly implications that it would use the DmC storyline.

I remember reading that it was too. Variety, Eurogamer and Geekosystem are vague about it. Shacknews says the movie will be based off of the reboot but I couldn't find their source.
 
Cow Mengde said:
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.

A-Are....are you serious?
 
ezekial45 said:
That's not true. The movie is it's own different entity. It's been in the works for several years now, in fact. It'll have it's own different story and it may be more in line with the previous entries.

I read over and over again that the DMC movie would have ties with the DmC game. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
 
GuardianE said:
I read over and over again that the DMC movie would have ties with the DmC game. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

I'd love to do that too, but i can't find the post now. Since the new trailer came out the forums are being swamped.
 
There have been many action oriented games at 30 fps that worked.

Darksiders
Vanquish
Castlevania Lords of Shadow
God of War 3. ( yes i know it fluctuated but during most combat sequences it was on the lower end.)
Bayonetta (ps3 version) which was actually sub 30 fps in many instances. And a lot of people enjoyed that game.

Also, ninja theory could do some interesting things wih the visuals and evironment design and interactivity that the Dmc games couldn't do before because they were at 60.

Hopefully, we begin to see more of this in future previews of the game.

Furthermore, your god Hideki Kamiya said that 60 fps isnt required for a good action game. And that i depends on the design of the game.
 
Cow Mengde said:
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.
While it doesn't look bad... I really would not go that far lol.
 
Cow Mengde said:
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.

....

Yep. Looked over it again. Wanted to be sure. There's not a single thing that I agree with in this post.


Anteater said:
Well I think he still looks a bit like the original concept art (I actually wasn't aware of that because I thought the hair was longer in the concept), they just fixed him up so he doesn't look like zombie anymore, they didn't really change him to look like what fans want, not to mention I think he looked like a zombie because he was all bruised up with wounds originally, so this might just be the "after" scenes.

No, it's different. He's bulker, better groomed hair, looks healthier, they changed his shirt from a dirty wifebeater to a regular shirt, his necklace, his coat and pants actually fit. These aren't very obvious changes like "OMG his hair is white nao!" But they're changes that make him less grungy... which was obviously what the earlier designs were going for.

It's quite a departure.
 
It's not like a movie based on OG DMC series would be any better. I mean just look at the guy who is scripting the movie... there isn't much to be expected out of the DMC movie.

Can't wait for the TGS DmC trailer (showcasing Vergil) with simultaneous unveiling of Vergil for UMVC3. It's going to be epic.

Just saw the trailer again... and I have to admit that Rising Rainstorm was genuinely bad ass.
 
Cow Mengde said:
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.

Damn, you must really hate the DMC series then. NG fan? God of War? Bayonetta? What's your favorite that you are so eager to place over the DMC series?
 
lowhighkang_LHK said:
There have been many action oriented games at 30 fps that worked.

Vanquish
Castlevania Lords of Shadow
God of War 3. ( yes i know it fluctuated but during most comvat sequences it was on he lower end.)
Bayonetta (ps3 version) which was actually sub 30 fps in many instances. And a lot of people enjoyed that game.
Two of those were designed for 60fps and constantly broke 30fps. The two mentioned on top are also about 1/10th as responsive as DMC games and I don't see how Vanquish fits in. You are talking about the difference between frame linking and combo inputs, charges, mash mash mash, etc...

Changing to 30fps would make an action game but not a DMC game. 60fps and 30fps actions games are almost their own genre.

Cow Mengde said:
Awesome. This is how Devil May Cry should be done. Puts all the other Capcom games to shame. The series is in good hands. Hell, I think Capcom should sell the franchise to Ninja Theory and be done with it.
0/5
 
Yeah it's like trying to sell a 60FPS MVC or SF game... that shit ain't going to fly in the competitive scene.

Anyway someone should GIF the Rising Rainstorm.
 
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