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[traveler]

Ok. Heard the theme for about 5 times. Even listened to it while watching MGS4 trailer. It fits, I'm used to it, and its good. Will miss the original theme but this is a great substitute.

I actually like the new theme quite a bit more. It seems much more restrained and much less bombastic than the original main theme.

 

[ssoass]

That 'Metal Gear Saga' track doesn't really have anything to do with the "MGS theme", it's a new version of the MGS3 main theme.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVCD1dsnJI

This whole theme never appeared before MGS3.

 

[hirokazu]

That 'Metal Gear Saga' track doesn't really have anything to do with the "MGS theme", it's a new version of the MGS3 main theme.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVCD1dsnJI

This whole theme never appeared before MGS3.

But even that MGS3 Main Theme has the classic MGS theme kick in at the end to finish it off.

 

[Laurent]

But that russian kick was introduced in Sons of Liberty, or was it before?

 

[CommanderQueen]

I started playing through MGS 2 again, just got to the first section of the tanker. It makes me really sad that they didn't pay for a license or something because the theme is incredible in MGS2. I like it in 3, but 'you never forget your first' kind of thing.

Anyone know if Rika Muranaka is back for MGS4?

 

[I_D]

 

[untoldhero]

Anyone know the name of the theme because the Youtube link you guys provided I can't watch because they blocked Youtube here.

 

[pel1300]

I'm so f*ckin pissed off about the exclusion of the MGS main theme.

Harry Gregson Williams was so good at remixing that core theme into other songs in both MGS2 and MGS3..

I was looking forward to seeing him do the same for MGS4.

 

[ThirdEye]

I'm so f*ckin pissed off about the exclusion of the MGS main theme.

Harry Gregson Williams was so good at remixing that core theme into other songs in both MGS2 and MGS3..

I was looking forward to seeing him do the same for MGS4.

No it's just the MGS2 theme

 

[-COOLIO-]

ill be buying a ps3 soon, ive scrounged together enough and im also trading in 8 games for a 40gb.

the only games ill be getting for it for it in the next 3 years will probably be gta4, mgs4, and resident evil 5

i luv ma sekwels

 

[-COOLIO-]

that man has the thickest beard to ever befall man

 

[scoobs]

It’s not about one single revolutionary aspect. It’s about that MGS4 is so beautiful, so perfect and that it dares to get so close. When the credits roll, it feels like it’s just now that I’ve understood what games are all about.

http://nextgen.ws/viewtopic.php?p=41804#p41804

Article could contain SPOILERS.

 

[CommanderQueen]

The MGS 2 Theme was used in MGS 3 as well. It was remixed using other elements. For example, it was slowly fretted on an acoustic guitar in one of the trailers. The original MGS theme wasn't bad but Gregson-Williams gave it it's soul.

The "new" theme composed for Sons of Liberty became the theme for Metal Gear Solid. It's going to be interesting if they can develop a theme to fill the void. The woman's singing in the intro movie as seen in the trailers is pretty hypnotic and dystopian. I love it.

 

[sykoex]

1up just put up a new MGS4 preview today.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3167967

I'm guessing it's based on final review code.

Edit: They basically go through some of the new gameplay elements like the Solid Eye, Metal Gear Mk. II, threat ring, etc. and explain how they're used. Cool.

 

[Pop On Arrival]

The MGS 2 Theme was used in MGS 3 as well. It was remixed using other elements. For example, it was slowly fretted on an acoustic guitar in one of the trailers. The original MGS theme wasn't bad but Gregson-Williams gave it it's soul.

The "new" theme composed for Sons of Liberty became the theme for Metal Gear Solid. It's going to be interesting if they can develop a theme to fill the void. The woman's singing in the intro movie as seen in the trailers is pretty hypnotic and dystopian. I love it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWY7E2KVMTI

MGS theme, MGS4 version.

 

[Catalix]

But that russian kick was introduced in Sons of Liberty, or was it before?

The original "MGS Theme" appeared in all the MGS1 trailers before the game came out. It also appears in the game itself during the credits (if you beat it three times) and in the intro for VR missions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNnoXFNlt-g

TAPPY was the composer, Harry Gregson-Williams did his arrangement of it for MGS2 onward.

 

[CommanderQueen]

Hmm. How sure are you that's real? It seems a bit convoluted to me. I like it from 3:00 onward where it gets acoustic and soft but before that it seems like they mixed too many things together to get the "epic" sound.

 

[Laurent]

The original "MGS Theme" appeared in all the MGS1 trailers before the game came out. It also appears in the game itself during the credits (if you beat it three times) and in the intro for VR missions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNnoXFNlt-g

TAPPY was the composer, Harry Gregson-Williams did his arrangement of it for MGS2 onward.

But there are multiple segments on that theme. What you call the "MGS Theme" is that part?

 

[ThirdEye]

The original "MGS Theme" appeared in all the MGS1 trailers before the game came out. It also appears in the game itself during the credits (if you beat it three times) and in the intro for VR missions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNnoXFNlt-g

TAPPY was the composer, Harry Gregson-Williams did his arrangement of it for MGS2 onward.

Isn't it AMV?

 

[Inanna]

Damn you Russia!! You ruined a beautiful thing!!

Those stupid Russians!!

 

[Rody]

Someone link me to the new theme, please.

 

[Frog]

Six posts above you.

 

[liquidspeed]

New MGS4 Reviews INbound:


Gamepro awards 5/5
" A game whose influance on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic"

"Artistic Triumph for Kojima"

THere is more at ps3foums in the MGS4 subsection.



Another Review INbound
MGS4(CHief) Belgium:
9.7 Its not in English though so I Can't read it. I found it on ps3forums.com

 

[Kagari]

New MGS4 Reviews INbound:


Gamepro awards 5/5
" A game whose influance on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic"

"Artistic Triumph for Kojima"

Kojima will save gaming.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Kojima will save gaming.

and vocabulary

Seriously though. Anyone willing to ship European MGS4 LE? :/ I'll pay for every expense!

 

[CommanderQueen]

MGS 4 > GTA IV.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is much more deserving of all the 10.0s, in my opinion. GTA IV is an amazing experience and in many ways you can't compare them, but the story and the drive of this game is unparalleled. No story in gaming is as enthralling than that of MGS. The gameplay and the storytelling is reaching new heights and while I'm the biggest Grand Theft Auto fan out there, they can push that series much further.

I can't wait to get to play this.

 

[SirFodderton]

Those stupid Russians!!

hear, hear!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKA4b5SFq4

 

[Catalix]

But there are multiple segments on that theme. What you call the "MGS Theme" is that part?

Ya, basically. The track was called "Metal Gear Solid - Main Theme" back in MGS1. The section that plays from 00:15-01:05 on The VR Missions intro is the essense of it. The version in MGS2 that HGW composed is the most well-known arrangement.

Isn't it AMV?

lol no, that's the actual intro for MGS: VR Missions. It does look like an AMV though.

 

[bigswords]

I liked the main theme of MGS3 and MGS2. I wished they did what Halo 3 did (they didn't fuck around with the main theme and just added stuff).

Edit: Don't get me wrong I liked the starting and middle bit of the new song, but when it came to the "epic" part it sounded like Snake can't get an erection in the middle of sex, he's just tired out.... (2minute 40 seconds onwards).

 

[Thrakier]

Edit: Don't get me wrong I liked the starting and middle bit of the new song, but when it came to the "epic" part it sounded like Snake can't get an erection in the middle of sex, he's just tired out.... (2minute 40 seconds onwards).

Yeah, that's the right description...and I fear I have to think about it in every epic moment. I know it's strange but it pisses me so much off that my hype died a little bit.

 

[Mifune]

Ya, basically. The track was called "Metal Gear Solid - Main Theme" back in MGS1. The section that plays from 00:15-01:05 on The VR Missions intro is the essense of it. The version in MGS2 that HGW composed is the most well-known arrangement.

lol no, that's the actual intro for MGS: VR Missions. It does look like an AMV though.

Holy crap. Thanks for the clarification.

To think that all these years I believed HGW composed that theme...

 

[GalacticAE]

Kojima will save gaming.

From what?

 

[scoobs]

From what?

Wii fit? Haha I kid, but seriously I think thats what hes referring to.

 

[Kagari]

From what?

"I thought about giving up," says Kojima. "But I had to finish it for the fans."

"Now, there is a casual boom," he says.

He's talking about taking risks, how it's important to take risks. How risks are important for the future of gaming.

"I'm not thinking of a Renaissance," he says, "but I'd like a return to gaming." Kojima has left the stage.

This. It's true what he says.

 

[hirokazu]

I liked the main theme of MGS3 and MGS2. I wished they did what Halo 3 did (they didn't fuck around with the main theme and just added stuff).

Edit: Don't get me wrong I liked the starting and middle bit of the new song, but when it came to the "epic" part it sounded like Snake can't get an erection in the middle of sex, he's just tired out.... (2minute 40 seconds onwards).

Haha, yeah this is true. The Metal Gear Saga song starts off fine, but it ends rather miserably because he can't seem to reach a good climax.

 

[SolidSnakex]

This. It's true what he says.

"Casual games have become mainstream in the industry," he declared. "It's not just a Japanese phenomenon but also something that's happening worldwide. There are new markets and possibilities opening up thanks to the trend, which is great. But on the other hand, we shouldn't forget about the hardcore gamers whose lives are about videogames. The gamers who consider video games a subculture, and enjoy taking their time to sit down and play games that gives them energy and courage. I wanted to remind those gamers about the fun of video games. I know that we're going against the trend, but we've been working hard for the past four years so that the fire [of non-casual games] won't blow out."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html

 

[Yoboman]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWY7E2KVMTI

MGS theme, MGS4 version.

Wait so the MGS4 theme is back?

 

[Yoboman]

What are you guys complaining about? Isn't the second half of that Youtube link (2:40 onwards) the "main" part of the theme?

 

[Mromson]

What are you guys complaining about? Isn't the second half of that Youtube link (2:40 onwards) the "main" part of the theme?

It's simply a remix. But it ain't the Theme we're looking for.

Check out Atonement though (don't have a link - yet):
CD2: 5. Atonement Nobuko Toda (4:48)

 

[Yoboman]

It's simply a remix. But it ain't the Theme we're looking for.

Check out Atonement though (don't have a link - yet):
CD2: 5. Atonement Nobuko Toda (4:48)

What's the difference?

 

[Mromson]

What's the difference?

Metal Gear Saga track is more of a remix rather than a revamp of the MGS theme. It's ok - but I certainly don't look upon it as the "MGS Theme."

 

[Synless]

I think it's the same. Isn't it?

 

[Yoboman]

Metal Gear Saga track is more of a remix rather than a revamp of the MGS theme. It's ok - but I certainly don't look upon it as the "MGS Theme."

Maybe the first part, the second half is entirely new

 

[BigBoss]

Metal Gear Saga track is more of a remix rather than a revamp of the MGS theme. It's ok - but I certainly don't look upon it as the "MGS Theme."

What do you consider the MGS theme then?

 

[brandonh83]

that is the MGS3 music from near the end of the Shagohod chase. it isn't the main MGS theme.

oh and it sounds like Ennio Morricone's style *cough*

 

[Yoboman]

that is the MGS3 music from near the end of the Shagohod chase. it isn't the main MGS theme.

oh and it sounds like Ennio Morricone's style *cough*

WTF is the main theme then if that's not it?

 

[SentientStone]

WTF is the main theme then if that's not it?

This is the MGS 'main theme' for the series since the first game (though in MGS1 it was not played until a rendition of it during the credits if I recall correctly).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKA4b5SFq4

Hm, actually that video has the MGS3 part of the theme in the middle too.
But the beginning and end is the MGS main theme. Shiz, I hope that is in MGS4. :/


EDIT: Okay, this one is MGS main theme only http://youtube.com/watch?v=xW_tIeCFW1g

 

[brandonh83]

WTF is the main theme then if that's not it?

well I'd say the intro to MGS2 which is a remix by Gregson of music from an MGS1 trailer.

yep 55 secs. into the youtube vid.

 

[Aggelos]

Those stupid Russians!!

Dude the Russians didn't ruin anything.
There was a danger for Kojima Production to get their asses sued, it's Tappy Iwase's fault.
Georgy Sviridov composed his stuff back in the 70s, Metal Gear games did not exist back then.....

 

[hirokazu]

What do you consider the MGS theme then?

What is wrong with you people? This is the MGS Main Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay517XhX9M8

MGS3 has a different Main Theme, but it does have the tune at the end of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVCD1dsnJI

The Metal Gear Saga song just sounds like a new version of the MGS3 Main Theme, but without any hint of the original. That's why people are like "WTF, why?"