StoppedInTracks
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This is all I want from the tech. ALL I WANT. Looks convenient as fuck.
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New Microsoft hololens demo. Goddamn future
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This is all I want from the tech. ALL I WANT. Looks convenient as fuck.
Jzero
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"I need to take a dump, let me take my TV with me"
ZackieChan
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People are creeped out enough with people using a phone while taking a dump. Now you're bringing the helmet into the bathroom?
You don't understand.. the FOV of hololens is really small. so when you scale your virtual tv to take up a wall, you wont be able to see the entire tv in its entirety, unless you walk back 30 feet or so.
From reports its about 40 degrees horizontal, and 23 degrees vertical with a 16:9 ratio. that's like holding a sheet of standard printing paper at arms length.
Myspcr_Shadow
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This is so cool!! I really hope this technology keeps expanding. I can imagine just regular glasses displaying these cool applications, completely subtle.
I imagine they'll work on sorting persons in the room in the depth buffer after they get the basics done. Right now that wouldn't be important. In fact the behavior might not even be wanted, you wouldn't want someone to be able to walk in front of your virtual TV.
Damon Bennet
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that is the thing that worries me the most. The FOV needs to be larger for it to be truly immersive
Wir haben schon eine signifikante Stückzahl für den internen Gebrauch produziert, verrät Holger Klemm von Microsoft Deutschland dem Handelsblatt.
My quick and dirty translation:
"We already produced a significant number for internal use", Holger Klemm of Microsoft Germany told Handelsblatt.
So they are already a good step further than mere prototypes, hmm?
My quick and dirty translation:
"We already produced a significant number for internal use", Holger Klemm of Microsoft Germany told Handelsblatt.
So they are already a good step further than mere prototypes, hmm?
Alx
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The headset includes the equivalent of two (four?) kinects (and the camera on stage has at least one), so it certainly has the same benefits and limitations : dim or uneven light isn't a problem since it emits its own infrared signals for depth perception, but direct sunlight can be an issue. Non textured surfaces wouldn't be a problem either, but absorbing materials or reflective ones could create some issues ; there will probably be strange behaviours on mirrors or some couch models.
For precise tasks like pinning a virtual screen at a specific location, having rich 3D information could be important. If all you see is an infinite flat surface, the system may have difficulty estimating his absolute position, while pieces of furniture and complex shapes could help as markers, I guess. It remains to be seen how mobile elements like people or pets walking in your field of view can disturb the location task too...
No. It isn't a projector. It's VR. You'll see the giant screen right in your face on the glasses device you are wearing. It will be layered over whatever it is that is physically in front of you. To explain it further to you, you can watch a big screen tv while on a crowded train.
Mapping your surrounding is just an additional feature. Mapping is also not obscured by window, door or clutter placement.
SneakyStephan
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Few things
-kinect , don't believe what you see to be how polished it will be or how well it'll function in the final product, that would be naive as fuck
-You're watching the ar stuff on whatever display you're on right now.
The image quality of the ar stuff is way in this video than what you'll get once you watch it through their google glass style little display that is an inch away from your head
-kinect , don't believe what you see to be how polished it will be or how well it'll function in the final product, that would be naive as fuck
-You're watching the ar stuff on whatever display you're on right now.
The image quality of the ar stuff is way in this video than what you'll get once you watch it through their google glass style little display that is an inch away from your head
Mango The Magician
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So, assuming this could utilize viewing 3D objects, can you imagine what will come in the future? I mean you could program stuff to actually wander about your house, even fictional things.
Someone should develop a Twitter app that flies about your house and craps tweets on the floor and walls.
Mango The Magician
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Lilalaunebaer
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Okay, that´s it. I wasn´t really interested in Hololens before, because if i actually do anything on my pc, i´ll do it the conventional way. Faster for me.
But this? That´s a selling point right there. If the quality to the eye is Blu-ray like, i´m buying one. Don´t even care what else you can do with that.
Zvonimir Boban
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Fuck the haters, AR Fruit Ninja is going to be off the motherfucking chain.
PetriP-TNT
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If even the TV part works even 50% as close as it's working on the demo, I'll buy one day one.
It wasn't pre-rendered. The camera they used for that video had hololens strapped to it. Even the first-preview wasn't pre-rendered other than that announcement trailer.
"I need to take a dump, let me take my raid in Destiny with me."
...splash.....splash....
"WTF was that? Is ZeroSumPoint87 taking a dump again?"
Same here, that's an IMAX screen in the palm of your hand. I was considering buying a beamer for my movie-watching and the odd gaming session, but this might be even more awesome and cheaper.
SneakyStephan
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See, it's already misleading people
you don't have an imax screen in the palm of your hand.
It's a low fov low image quality display, you are imagining it's like being in the cinema due to this video but it's nothing like that.
iceatcs
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Yeah I argeed, esp the wall is not real. Semi-transparent on everything worried me
Cool concept but rather wait and see.
There is a difference though. WIth Kinect, everyone said it was rough from the moment they got hands on demos. In this case, all the hands on demos with actual people are extremely positive.
Edit: And we should be seeing hundreds more of hands on experiences from developers at Build.
that gif is impressive but unrepresentative of what you'd see in the first person - doesn't hololens have a relatively low field of view? So the actual hololens user won't be able to see that entire picture.
It is also a silly demo because that isn't where the strengths are. Think muliple virtual monitors which would work because you're only focusing on one at a time. Think combining that with the Windows 10 continuum so your phone is your computer, and this is your screen/s. Or those demos they showed of modelling/visualisation/3D tech support walkthroughs.
Graphics Horse
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Pretty sure the guy was wearing a prop and miming everything, the real kit is supposed to be much bulkier at the moment (look at all the crap they strapped to the camera).
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
MS still faking too much of this product for me to have any faith in it.
FOV is something they conveniently completely fake out with the "the camera sees what he sees!" system, where nothing is ever occluded. I can see his finger movements aren't in time with some of the motion tracking menus, and so on.
They learned nothing from Kinect.
FOV is something they conveniently completely fake out with the "the camera sees what he sees!" system, where nothing is ever occluded. I can see his finger movements aren't in time with some of the motion tracking menus, and so on.
They learned nothing from Kinect.
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sixteen-bit
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Neat tech demo.
Phat Michael
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No, their R&D team is really, really good. Im sure they have learned a lot considering how often they have used Kinect for other ventures recently.
Lol, have you seen how instantly the device responded to his gestures, and with one fucking finger, and at same time my kinect fails to recognize my entire hand and takes ages to accurately point at menu tiles, not to mention a noticeable delay between real life and onscreen response. Yeah, not pre-rendered, sure, like I am the queen of england.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I'm talking about how they present products and "visions". Obviously their R&D lot have "learned" from past tech, thats... you know, blatantly obvious. Thats what an R&D department is.
What they haven't learned is to not present technology in a way that is completely false, leads to far higher expectations, and thus ensures inevitable disappointment.
Why not the rotting walls from silent hill..
Phat Michael
Banned
What about this is false? It's a future representation of how the technology will work. It may not be at that state now but when it comes to the consumer release it will be. Which is why there is hands on with people at build, they get to experience it.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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holy shit hurry up future
ZackieChan
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Let me introduce you to a company called Microsoft...
Phat Michael
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Great response.
ZackieChan
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Have you missed the cycle of disappointment that accompanies their many product launches?
Good concept, but it will really suck if the FOV and resolution of the AR display are too small. There were some reports after Hololens unveil that FOV is small.
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