thatJohann
Member
Is there no monthly subscription to the new PS Plus tiers like GamePass? All I see is yearly upgrade options for Extra/Premium when I check my PS Plus subscription on my PS5. Hate the UI, it's so messy.
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New PlayStation Plus is live in the US | Sony’s classic PlayStation games on PS Plus are 60hz in North America
sainraja
Member
I don't think using PT as an example disproves what he said. Since PT isn't something that was offered via any subscription service, it was simply a demo that was later removed; only those that kept it installed are able to play it (not sure if that is even true anymore).
hououinkyouma00
Member
I think it's already been established that games available for purchase are free if you bought them before. Not all games appear to be able to be purchased however.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Darkcloud 2?Here’s the full classics catalog. Nothing really new with PS2. It’s just the existing games you could always buy on PSN.
ManaByte
Member
RE DC isn’t available for purchase, which means you can’t download the copy you own yet.
It was always on PSN and PS Now.
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sainraja
Member
Understood. I was considering (what you have now clarified) that they might be locking some of the titles behind their subscription only which is unfortunate. The only reason I was questioning it is because I don't remember buying one of the games that I could add to my library without cost....but maybe I did buy it and forgot that I did.
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So? What's that got to do with the license expiring IF it leaves the service?
ReBurn
is right. You download the games and it's added to your library but if it's removed from the service it will just have a little lock on it saying you don't have the license (unless you buy the game)
II_JumPeR_I
Member
Still no classic tomb raider games?
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Does it have trophies and a platinum?
solidus12
Member
Mistakes were made.
Captain Toad
Banned
Yes. But some don't seem to have an option to buy for anyone. Resident Evil DC, at least.
StealthGoblin
Banned
There isn’t a single PS2 game running on a PS2 emulator.
You’d expect at least 10 games from the PS1, PS2 and PSP each as a starting point. Even that would have been bare bones.
They’ve had years to react to GamePass and although they can’t compete with deals with third parties, the classics is what is meant to be driving the most expensive tier.
It’s almost as if Sony think the PS3 gen has more value.
BiohazardX95
Member
Same here.I own RE DC digitally and have it downloaded on my Vita but PS+ doesn’t give me the option of downloading the one I own, only the PS+ version.
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Knightime_X
Member
Not being able to buy games like Resident Evil DC is a big OOF and kinda scummy on sony's part.
Not that i'm interested in re dc but future games where I don't mind paying for them instead of paying $150+ a year just to have access to them.
Not that i'm interested in re dc but future games where I don't mind paying for them instead of paying $150+ a year just to have access to them.
AlexxKidd
Member
I am immediately upgrading to the highest tier when I get off work and will continue to do so every year in perpetuity. However, it must be said that the classic selection of PS1 and PS2 games available at launch is inexcusable for a company that has so many classics in their PS1 and PS2 catalogues. They didn't even put many of their own PS1/PS2 games on there. I realize they want to roll these things out and drop them once or twice a month, but a base of at least 50 genuine PS1 games should have been ready to go at launch.
As someone living in Europe, this also means not having the possibility to get some games from the US shop to have them in 60hz.
yurinka
Member
Some PAL versions had higher resolution and extra languages. I assume this is the reason.
It would be nice to have a better 60Hz patch for PAL games, as some Retroarch emulators have or as it was done in non-official way in the original PS1. Or would be nice too to allow you to choose the version of the game (USA, PAL or Japanese).
GreatnessRD
Member
I just wanna know how MLB The Show is on Gamepass, but not on Sony's own service. Giving wild to me vibes.
StealthGoblin
Banned
It is mad. Utterly mad.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
No Vagrant Story, Alundra, Vandal Hearts, Front Mission 3 or a bunch of other classics I'd happily buy and replay again, hopefully they are added in time, preferably with trophy support though I won't hold my breath for that feature outside of 1st party stuff. Still, the service is promising and the future is bright 
mitch1971
Member
yes
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ManaByte
Member
Seems like an easy Plat too.yes
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dotnotbot
Member
They didn't, it's just not ready yet.
ManaByte
Member
Not ready yet? The service has launched.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Then don’t launch the fucking service.
If they had literally launched with the game catalogue (which is okay) and then:
PS1 - 10 genuinely classic games like MGS, FF, Tomb Raider, Tomba etc
PS2 - another 10 genuine classics.
PS3 - fewer, better games.
Then people will have tolerated that. What they’ve offered is absolutely insane.
dotnotbot
Member
Yep, not with a full list.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
ManaByte
Member
What are you talking about. This is the full list for the US launch. It’s even on the US site:
PlayStation Plus games | A-Z of all game catalog titles, classic catalog, trials and more | PlayStation
PlayStation Plus Essential is an ongoing subscription with a recurring fee of 9.99 charged automatically every month. Expand this section for further details. Enhance your PlayStation experience with core features, including online multiplayer access, monthly games, exclusive discounts, and...
www.playstation.com
Imru’ al-Qays
Member
That's cool I guess, but the selection of games is just woeful. I've got a Vita so I can already play whatever I want from PS1 and PSP, but even if I didn't there's no way I would spend money on this service. And where are the PS2 games? There are a ton of PS2 JRPGs that you can't play anywhere else (Xenosaga, Digital Devil Saga. . .), but they're nowhere to be found.
graywolf323
Member
so I added Demon's Souls & Death Stranding to try out finally and now if I decide I want to buy them I can't get the digital deluxe editions 
edit: I thought they had fixed this with PS+ but was it still broken with PSNow? it's dumb that the only version of the game I can now buy are the base versions when there's no upgrade available to the digital deluxe...
edit: I thought they had fixed this with PS+ but was it still broken with PSNow? it's dumb that the only version of the game I can now buy are the base versions when there's no upgrade available to the digital deluxe...
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Is there a PS5 specific list? I know we are getting Returnal which I'm immediately downloading when I get home.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Are you able to remove them from your library and try again?so I added Demon's Souls & Death Stranding to try out finally and now if I decide I want to buy them I can't get the digital deluxe editions
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I really should have stacked ps now while I had the chance. Sigh.
dotnotbot
Member
What are you talking about. This is the full list for the US launch. It’s even on the US site:
PlayStation Plus games | A-Z of all game catalog titles, classic catalog, trials and more | PlayStation
PlayStation Plus Essential is an ongoing subscription with a recurring fee of 9.99 charged automatically every month. Expand this section for further details. Enhance your PlayStation experience with core features, including online multiplayer access, monthly games, exclusive discounts, and...
I don't mean that list. I mean that they are going to gradually add more emulated classics. Sony decided current offering is already good enough to launch the service but the classics require testing so they're not ready yet all at once.
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graywolf323
Member
I canceled the downloads but the only option I see in my library is to hide them, even after hiding them the store pages for the digital deluxe versions still give the same message which is they can't be bought because they conflict with an item I already "own" which is the base game from PS+
SuperBabyMethod
Member
Can’t wait to come home, upgrade, and play some Ps1 classics with trophy support 
buenoblue
Member
It's the games that run at 30fps ntsc that really suffer. Pay runs those at 25 fps.
As for me I already have to many games that I own and haven't played lol. And there's bin high quality ways to play PS1 games for ages now. I have loads on my arcade machine and my phone.
ManaByte
Member
AtomicStarving
Member
I need Mortal Kombat 4
Shifty1897
Member
Discs do not work
In theory PAL could give higher resolution, but this was dependant on developers taking advantage of the added vertical resolution, some did but many did not resulting in back bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Games running slow was also bad side effect, though I guess some players prefer the slower timings of the PAL versions of games.
Legally though, different publishers had rights to publish games in specific regions and this could also be a holdover, with the NTSC and PAL versions having different publishers and also being censored differently. UnJammerLammy is an example of this.
tmlDan
Member
they are still offering a ton of games, when gamepass launched it was also trash.
These services take time to flesh out regardless of whether they had a semi-similar platform prior.