New Spike VGA Teaser Video For PS3 Exclusive [Troll Levels Approaching Maximum]

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Edit: wow, I guess posting something "informative" is being viewed as insulting. Chill out people.
This is GAF. You're not "posting something informative." You're coming off as condescending. The vast majority of people discussing 60 fps know more about the subject than you've shown to know.

This is not a discussion of whether or not the trade-off of better assets for lower FPS is worth it. It is people who have played enough titles at 60 FPS, especially PC gaming enthusiasts, claiming that 30fps is not enough. If you had played enough titles at 60 FPS, you would know this.

Going from playing games at a smooth 60 fps to a janky, choppy mess is something nobody wants to experience again.
 
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Well targetting 60 fps for DMC's savage and combo-based gameplay is an obvious choice for player responsiveness. Targetting 30 fps is common for 3rd person action games, but not a rule. It's mostly the case for games that have complex controls (i.e compare Gears of War 3 to DMC4). It boils down to whether response times are more important than pushing more and prettier things on the screen. It's a design choice. For a game with "simplistic" controls like Uc3 the latter is clearly a better choice.

This is one of the many reasons why I'll completely overlook DmC (and hope many do). The reason why they targetted 30fps is because they chose UE3. The developers of the new 3D mortal kombat games (they also use UE3) had the same issue, but they solved it.
UE3 is heavy even when you don't render anything on the screen. There is a lot of overhead. It's designed to do a lot and encompass a lot of genres but you have to wrestle with it. The MK developers had to make it "lose weight" and succeeded in making a 60fps fighting game (good read: http://www.scribd.com/doc/15118967/Hitting-60Hz-in-Unreal-Engine).
Ninja theory's coders got "lazy" and decided to keep it as is I guess (resources, time-constraints, whatever ...)

Edit: wow, I guess posting something "informative" is being viewed as insulting. Chill out people.
A few points.

1. Everyone already knows everything you just said.

2. 60fps is better than 30fps 100% of the time. You see the DF video of Uncharted 3 running at 60? Looked amazing. Obviously it's harder to do 60fps on console with high IQ, which is why people are suggesting it after Geoff's repeated "...you don't believe" teasers.

3. Fucking juniors.
 
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That Rising trailer...

At first I was cringing, but it was saved at the end when they mentioned
Jack the Ripper. It's cool how they are building off what has been shown of Raiden's past in MGS2.

That said, the gameplay doesn't look so hot, but I'm not gonna judge at all this early. I need to know who at Platinum is in charge of this.
 

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Wait. So the unknown game that was to be shown at the VGA's is MGS:Rising? I just saw the video and I was now wowed at all. The hints don't have anything to do with MGS. Man, I'm kind of disappointed....
 
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Wait. So the unknown game that was to be shown at the VGA's is MGS:Rising? I just saw the video and I was now wowed at all. The hints don't have anything to do with MGS. Man, I'm kind of disappointed....
That's not the secret game...
Metal Gear Rising were the first confirmed title of the VGAs, did you even look at the official VGA thread?
 
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Watch The Last of US get leaked as well.

Who ever leaked this trailer should be banned from the gaming industry forever.

MGS trailer is corny as shit. Anime level of nonsense. "My sword..."ugh.
 
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This is GAF. You're not "posting something informative." You're coming off as condescending. The vast majority of people discussing 60 fps know more about the subject than you've shown to know.

This is not a discussion of whether or not the trade-off of better assets for lower FPS is worth it. It is people who have played enough titles at 60 FPS, especially PC gaming enthusiasts, claiming that 30fps is not enough. If you had played enough titles at 60 FPS, you would know this.

Going from playing games at a smooth 60 fps to a janky, choppy mess is something nobody wants to experience again.
Baller said:
A few points.

1. Everyone already knows everything you just said.

2. 60fps is better than 30fps 100% of the time. You see the DF video of Uncharted 3 running at 60? Looked amazing. Obviously it's harder to do 60fps on console with high IQ, which is why people are suggesting it after Geoff's repeated "...you don't believe" teasers.

3. Fucking juniors.
Littlegator: I may have come off condensending and I apologize for that. Still I believe you guys took it way too far for a simple post. "Everybody knows what you just said" yet they ask for a first-person zombie game or RPG to run at 60fps, there's a contradiction right there.

Baller, I'm actually laughing right now. Coming up with "60fps is better than 30fps 100% of the time", "..harder to do on consle with high IQ" (whatever that means? do you even know what you're talking about?) and saying people are suggesting it after a statement by goeff ... that just furhter proves my point. Seeing you're viewing your "rank" on a forum as having any inheretent value or the right to curse is quite primitive. You really are clueless. Well I guess the players' reality is simpler, "it's smoother it's kool ! 30fps is choppy, not smooth enough". With minimal and irrational knowledge of how it's actually done and the design choices behind it. I'll leave it at that.
 

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I hate this type of comments... It seems that a "member" knows more about video games then a "junior".
It should be bannable IMO. Although the historical context is different, and it's a much lesser offense, obviously, it grates on me just like when people say "fucking Americans" (or whatever nationality you please). Or even if someone said "fucking gay gamers" or something like that.

It's classism based on the extraordinarily inaccurate assumption that junior members have less knowledge or experience, even though no one can tell how long any other member has been lurking GAF. Add to that the fact that full members say stupid shit all the time but it doesn't get attributed to their membership status.

It's just the epitome of shitty thinking and shitty posting.

Baller, I'm actually laughing right now. Coming up with "60fps is better than 30fps 100% of the time", "..harder to do on consle with high IQ" (whatever that means? do you even know what you're talking about?) and saying people are suggesting it after a statement by goeff ... that just furhter proves my point. Seeing you're viewing your "rank" on a forum as having any inheretent value or the right to curse is quite primitive. You really are clueless. Well I guess the players' reality is simpler, "it's smoother it's kool ! 30fps is choppy, not smooth enough". With minimal and irrational knowledge of how it's actually done and the design choices behind it. I'll leave it at that.
I will defend you from being called a stupid junior, but this post isn't great.



To add something on topic: This game will be an MMO where everyone picks a faction, except the factions are different species, and they all vie for control of the post-fungal-zombie-apocalyptic wasteland. Maybe you can play as plants, too.

Nailed it.
 
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