I am surprised that so many people are surprised by the setting and characters in this game. Sure there hasn't been much trailer material until now, but looking at all the scans and infos from the recent months, people should have gotten a good picture of how this game looks. The involvement of an idol group was announced 2 months ago for example.
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New Tokyo Xanadu (JP) trailer is out
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Relaxed Muscle
Member
At least the stupid idol part should have this
Neptune:"Console wars, console wars never changes"
I'll buy 2 copies.
Neptune:"Console wars, console wars never changes"
I'll buy 2 copies.
They're going after dat Persona money, you can't blame them. We got Persona 4, which also had idols and stuff, two decades after original hell & demons themed classic SMT games.
She is, though.
And I don't really care if SAO came before, I'm talking about the trope/stereotype of the character, not the design.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Looks hot. I'm in.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Bad strawman defense: The Thread
Still, the less idol in games, the better.
Still, the less idol in games, the better.
threelights
Member
Surprised that only now people are complaining about idols. Screens of everything shown in the trailer have already been released. I think the only thing new is everything being show in a coherent order and then having new gameplay footage on top of it.
But before this thread becomes an unreadable mess because some people don't like Japanese tropes, I'll just say I'm hyped for it and quietly leave until the import thread hits.
But before this thread becomes an unreadable mess because some people don't like Japanese tropes, I'll just say I'm hyped for it and quietly leave until the import thread hits.
sir_kevith
Member
Trailer made this look like a super generic persona action game. Falcom always has had some of the most anime inspired games but tbh this does look like shallow crap to me too. Just uninspired, and i love Persona.
Hopefully the gameplay is good and they just showed the worst parts. I probably wont play it even though I loved Xanadu Next and Falcom action RPGs.
Hopefully the gameplay is good and they just showed the worst parts. I probably wont play it even though I loved Xanadu Next and Falcom action RPGs.
Looks neat.
Don't want to continue the derail but yeah having not known a damn about this game prior to this thread...the idol stuff really came outta nowhere lol. It doesn't even look like it fits in other than..yolo here is some idol stuff because (again I know nothing about the game so I can be wrong).
still not going to judge the whole game off of that as it does look like something I'd be into idol stuff aside but whoa that kinda just came outta nowhere.
Don't want to continue the derail but yeah having not known a damn about this game prior to this thread...the idol stuff really came outta nowhere lol. It doesn't even look like it fits in other than..yolo here is some idol stuff because (again I know nothing about the game so I can be wrong).
still not going to judge the whole game off of that as it does look like something I'd be into idol stuff aside but whoa that kinda just came outta nowhere.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Asuna is not a silent character, she is distinctively not silent.
PixyJunket
Member
Huh? Up until Kiseki most of their games have been mild in that regard (and even those weren't too awful until Sen). Anime flavored? Sure. Straight-up fad pandering? I have a hard time seeing it. Popful Mail might be the one exception (and maybe Legend of Xanadu, but I have shamefully not played it).
The backlash is mainly because they're using the Xanadu name for this. I understand the name doesn't mean anything to most people in this thread, but it's a long running series with a history that isn't anything like this.
Nightengale
Member
I dunno, expectations that perhaps they're perhaps eccentric and not part of the current pop/anime culture of modern Japan?
Personally, I actually really like the direction of Tokyo Xanadu. Sure, it's anime-as-hell, but honestly, the number of 'anime RPGs' that actually have some love and good production values put into them are honestly, not very many at all. As an anime fan, there's plenty of shovelware out there.
Though honestly, it should've been a new IP. It's starkly different from the old Xanadu as it is.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I can see how that's annoying, I "know" the history about the Xanadu games but the only one I have played is Xanadu Next.
I want more games like Xanadu Next.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Didn't expect that idol group there.
And she is definitely not strong either, a good example of faux strong woman character.
Saying a sword wielding brunette with long hair is as stupid as saying every blond guy with sword is Gilgamesh clone.
You know that tropes is just a tool and all that matter is the execution?
PixyJunket
Member
Well, it's supposed to be.
Xanadu Next was so good and pretty damn unique. Still havent played nothing quite like it. So yeah its definately disappointing that TX didnt follow in its footsteps.
At least its coming to Steam in the future.
Just like #FE Revelations? People were upset, but I still don't think it's that bad of a deal, specially here where the Xanadu name wasn't used for years and years.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I can't wait, I need to replay it! It's such an amazing game.
IT IS? Daaaaayum
It is
Is there any confirmation? But considering this game made after Falcom acknowledgement of their games sales on Stem, I wouldn't be surprised if they prepare it for a PC port in the future.
PixyJunket
Member
Xanadu Next, not Tokyo Xanadu.
To be clear, i'm talking about Xanadu Next. It got leaked with the domain names along with Corpse Party Blood Drive, Trails of Cold Steel and other xseed titles.
It does make you wonder why they went the route of IP revival and not just going with something new. It's not like Xanadu was some huge franchise that went through a dry spell.
PixyJunket
Member
Xanadu is still the best selling PC game of all time in Japan.
The name means something.
Well, it used to.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I can forgive all the world's idolling if the guys are cute.
Tokyo Xanadu has been forgiven.
Tokyo Xanadu has been forgiven.
Oh yeah, I got that you were talking about Next, I didn't know it was coming, can't wait.
Ingueferroque
Banned
90% of the backlash comes from people wanting to be outraged and concerned about yet another (Vita) (Anime) (JRPG) game that contains cute girls and puts them in suggestive situations.
Reminds me of the controversy around Mortal Kombat and Night Trap in the 90's.
Hot anime trash? Idol crap? Sounds like you have got a bone to pick. Meanwhile your avatar reeks of double standards, though I suppose she isn't a 900 year old dragon.
Okay, thanks for telling me how I really feel. Anything else I'm lying to myself about?
PixyJunket
Member
Nice agenda.
Most of the criticism in this thread is paired up with some form "I played Xanadu Next."
The ones that don't are probably just tired of this generic theme/setting.
Please though, point out the 90% that were outraged because of cute girls.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I wasnt referring to you or pitting words in your mouth, I was responding to you about the reception this trailer is getting here.
This game has a modern setting, obviously they want to go for the Persona crowd. It would be hard for me to imagine them doing so without girls in school uniforms and the shocking appearance of an idol sequence.
Stop with the vita persecution nonsense. Alot of people posting in this thread are Xanadu fans. Its easy where the disappointment in this title comes from.
PixyJunket
Member
My avatar is not anime or idol. Thank you for your concern though.
Looking it up I see this year marks the 30th anniversary of that original game and 10 years since the last. I guess the revival makes sense, though maybe not in this form.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Actually I noticed more people complaining about the 10 seconds of idol imagery than the new action RPG system.
YianGaruga
Banned
So everyone would be cool with the game if it had a different name?
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Persona 4?
Persona 4.
行くぞ!!!
Persona 4.
行くぞ!!!
There's a proverb in my country that basically mean "A single flaw makes the whole bad". I guess it's applicable everywhere.
hot anime trash". I guess there isn't a discussion to be had in any small/medium tier japanese game anymore.
Yeah, there is. There's the same kind of conversations. Series fans and Vita fans butting heads.
Idol Xanadu
It's pretty hyped on 2ch and on several forums. When discussing about the link to the Xanadu series comes up, they are just citing Falcom themselves: That all games from the Xanadu series is the culmination of all they have learned by making games for that time period, which for this title means the newer Kiseki and Ys titles. Xanadu Next was made for their last period, Ys6, Trails6 etc.
It's kind of sad that the only discussion of this game here is about tropes and idols, not about the game itself. That's Neogaf for you.