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VanSiriusGabriel
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I mean, Xbox fans are slowly realising that PS5 will do everything SeX does, but better and with games also. Even the most arrogant and stubborn of the enemies can't deny an evident defeat.I just wanna say that I've noticed lately that both PS and Xbox fans here are now closing the gap and having a more mutual ground, which is great for the forum, but probably not that good for memers.
While I think there is very little doubt PS5 will be RDNA2, miscomprehension issues like this are what causes a lot of problems around here.
The only slide you posted that specifically mentions RDNA2 is the last one. While it does use the word “consoles” there, that would still be the correct English to use for that sentence, given what it is actually saying, even if only one of the next gen consoles was RDNA2. It would actually still be accurate even if none of the consoles coming this year used it.
Thedtrain
Member
Is this the new Sony Bumbo!?Higher resolution:
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Yeah that won’t stir up anything.... Ohhhh boy....
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Well, if I can't use memes...
llien
Member
I took actual power usage of 5700XT.
Well, it depends on the number of CUs, at the end of the day, but yes, surely.
jackets with pockets
Banned
On the subject of fakes, I just saw this floating about, and now my heart breaks it’s not real...
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Pete Hines(Bethesda) was in the Bay area this week for an update on the PS5.
Gediminas
Banned
Sony like, go away.. bethesda cater to xbox for the long time now. that was very obvious with Fallout 76.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
How do you know this? Do you have a link? It would be interesting if true as he is marketing & communications for Bethesda.
Md Ray
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BlackBuzzard
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
No. Please, no.
archy121
Member
Nooooo - that’s a potty trainer for kiddies !
Moridianae
Member
You know...having stellar titles didn't stop Sony from speaking about the PS4 in yesteryear.
There's no need to say much, but it's interesting that a company can show or say very little(of late) yet still be on the minds of everyone even after February came and went, etc.
There's no need to say much, but it's interesting that a company can show or say very little(of late) yet still be on the minds of everyone even after February came and went, etc.
Burrito Bandito
Banned
sorry but 9.2 is still the most likely scenario so ill take your post as sad cope
FranXico
Member
We still have Stadia for that, right?I just wanna say that I've noticed lately that both PS and Xbox fans here are now closing the gap and having a more mutual ground, which is great for the forum, but probably not that good for memers.
FranXico
Member
You'll overheat both consoles if you do that LOLOkay, now it makes sense!
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Sorry but I would take it as sarcasm.
I won't partecipate much in this theoric discussions if not for brief opinions and jokes, both consoles will probably be good as I don't see plausible a second "One debacle" for MS nor a "we are da boss debacle" for Sony after PS3, this is what I care for, the rest is hardcore blabbering in my eyes. I don't give a damn what's more likely, all of this will be dust in few months at best. Not trying to bash the purpose of the thread, but FOR ME and my idea of using my time, staying days discussing how many pretzels will be in a console when I literally have a company who wants and will tell me exactly that after a while it's useless.
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CuriousToe
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Jokes aside. That looks excellent.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Makes you wonder what required his presence (especially in the current climate)? The question now is something happening soon or is it something bad like a delay Sony wanted to communicate in person?
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Okay, now it makes sense!
ITS MORPHIN TIME!
Bo_Hazem
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I know you’re helping, but your not helping.
DJ12
Member
Sonys cooling so good it can cool both consoles at the same time confirmedOkay, now it makes sense!
MarkMe2525
Member
Sega has always had the strongest console at the time they launched. I wouldn't call this a strong argument to make a point though when they never launched alongside another console. Only once has Sony's launch aligned with another consoles launch.
Edit: My statement is only true for US launches. So depended on what qualifiers one is using, my point may not be that strong either.
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Ellery
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We will have to wait on the third party benchmarks for RDNA2 graphic cards to make 100% sure.
The reality is AMD (and also Nvidia and Intel) use the biggest numbers in their best case scenarios to show off.
I am not quite ready to believe it translates that amazingly well into real world performance. As we have seen with the Radeon VII (GCN) and 5700 XT (RDNA) where AMD also claimed 50%, but in reviews the 5700 XT had 23% lower power consumption for the same performance during gaming.
Sadly we will have to wait a long time for confirmation. I would love to have clarity aswell.
I don't have any problems with your maths. I basically did the same thing some pages back, but the more I think about it the less likely it seems that the jump works that well as we have seen with the Radeon VII and 5700 XT.
We would probably need to isolate the memory controller and RAM power draw aswell from it (which is basically impossible).
People should be hyped, but people should not go full bonkers and expect RDNA2 to be so good that a theoretical 9.7 TF 210W RDNA2 GPU would be 50% faster than an 5700 XT.
Hmm weird 225 is exactly the TDP of the reference card. I was looking at actual benchmark tests and the power draw during gaming was 200-210W ~
Where do you get your numbers from?
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llien
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(average gaming)
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Review
The AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT is based on AMD's all-new Navi 10 GPU featuring the RDNA architecture. We thoroughly test the card's gaming performance and look at power, heat, noise, overclocking, and clock frequency stability, too, sometimes with surprising results.
ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC Review
The ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC is a huge improvement over the AMD reference design. It comes with an excellent cooler that reduces temperatures and noise levels at the same time, matching NVIDIA's offerings. Idle-fan-stop is included, too, and the factory overclock nets additional performance.
Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Pulse Review
The Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Pulse is equipped with a factory overclock and features a much better thermal solution than the AMD reference design. The card not only runs a lot quieter as temperatures are better than on any other RX 5700 XT we've tested so far, and idle fan stop is included, too.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Not necessarily, they could use the same hardware, but both have different OS and RT solution. On PC ground, Vulkan shits on DirectX and it's open-source/free. Still, it could be temporary, with Xbox maturing in the final stages. AMD is more into Vulkan anyway so probably needed to work closer with Microsoft to lesser the gap.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Is there a petition to ban the GitHub gits from the thread yet? They are obviously shitting up the thread.
This is the ugliest design yet lol.
TLZ
Banned
Ah, the PSPotty.
FranXico
Member
Nothing beats the kitchen scale, mate.
Not necessarily, they could use the same hardware, but both have different OS and RT solution. On PC ground, Vulkan shits on DirectX and it's open-source/free. Still, it could be temporary, with Xbox maturing in the final stages. AMD is more into Vulkan anyway so probably needed to work closer with Microsoft to lesser the gap.
This is what I was thinking as soon as they said they were working with microsoft for their api, I knew vulkan would be a good choice lets hope they use it or atleast a modified version.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
some of you are still clinging onto the 9.2 number huh, not sure why you're so desperate to eat crow!
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It doesn't mean that PS5 is using Vulkan anyway, but we are 100% sure Sony won't use DirectX12 or DXR.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Toilet seat design I see.
Ellery
Member
huh indeed. Looks like I randomly picked a review that had a golden sample or so with the lowest power consumption amongst reference 5700 XT cards. Not that the difference is that huge.
Aceofspades
Banned
These things are not mutually exclusive at all. You can have RDNA2 and better cooling .
FranXico
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
xiaoming10086
Member
Reply him that MS must be using the freaking GCNs so they will have to go for a TOWER DESIGN.
Or it won't ADD UP.
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IkarugaDE
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FranXico
Member
Oh now you've done it!Ooookay, done!
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