CrysisFreak
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Looks alright to me. Looks current-gen at extreme settings tbh.I've gotta be honest, didn't expect Far Cry 6 to look this good
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sircaw
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3liteDragon
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longdi
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sircaw
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Oh shit. MS taking the price hit to compete against PS5.
More Power to gamers.
Regardless of your fanboyism choice, imagine 449 for either the ps5 or the new xbox, ASTOUNDING VALUE.
The power you get in this next generation, is simply staggering.
ArcaneNLSC
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Still lighter than the original PS3
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B_Boss
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AeneaGames
Member
You forgot it also Cures Cancer fs. Be better
Now THAT would be a reason for me to switch to Xbox!
sircaw
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Now THAT would be a reason for me to switch to Xbox!
I was hoping it would make you switch your Avatar FLEABAG.
PS. PEACE
xxxx
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AeneaGames
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I will with an even bigger smile AFTER I've eaten you! Yum,yum!
sircaw
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I had a big curry last night, i am feeling extra spicy inside. COME AND GET ME>
AeneaGames
Member
sircaw
Banned
Do I need to repost that one about my stomach, hmm? The spicier the better!
I never post images but if i did, it would be a white flag at this moment.
You win my fat feline Friend. Alliteration for the win.
so are we a go for tonight ps5 price reveal? lets hope so!
my guess
digital - 399€
normal one - 499€
although i would love to see the official price i really think if sony reveals the price tonight they would should address how is the retrocompatibility with ps4 is really gonna work. i know a lot people (myself included) are waiting for a more concrete answer on this to buy it day 1 or not.
my guess
digital - 399€
normal one - 499€
although i would love to see the official price i really think if sony reveals the price tonight they would should address how is the retrocompatibility with ps4 is really gonna work. i know a lot people (myself included) are waiting for a more concrete answer on this to buy it day 1 or not.
AeneaGames
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Yep, I think those are going to be the prices too. More than 499 might be too high for them and 399 for DE seems to be the right price difference to get people interested. I know a drive costs way less than €100 but Sony is willing to subsidise that...
Bo_Hazem
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Sony could buy the entire company almost twice over.....
Sony Cash on Hand 2006-2020 | SNE
Sony cash on hand from 2006 to 2020. Cash on hand can be defined as cash deposits at financial institutions that can immediately be withdrawn at any time, and investments maturing in one year or less that are highly liquid and therefore regarded as cash equivalents and reported with or near cash...www.macrotrends.net
Dunno why people think they are some broke company!
It's obvious that the deal only contains studios with no IP's. Sony would've easily sealed the deal with all that hard cash and passion to make quality entertainment. Sony already does CGI for Warner Bros mvoies via Sony Pictures Imageworks:
ImageworksVFX
Sony Pictures Imageworks is the Academy Award®-winning visual effects and animation unit of Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group known for live-action visual e...
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Sony is helping the big boys, I expect most of those would rather have Disney, Warner Bros., Marvel games being Sony PS5 exclusives to give their IP's the hype they deserve, instead of EA's lootboxes or other infamous companies known to deliver crap quality.
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Bo_Hazem
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Why it's BS? They can bring back those $250 million in around 4 years according to Epic Games annual revenues. It's a smart investment instead of having cash sitting around.
They're leading the camera business both in photography and cinematography, TV's are thriving again and should spike with the new X900H being the best bang for the buck for next gen, their new Xperia 1 II packs the best camera features and capabilities, their image sensors are holding half of the global share, and PS4 is still selling at crazy high prices even this late!
But it's always better to widen your investments, and I would think putting similar money on Unity would be another smart thing, unless they're really planning in having the Decima engine as an open-source engine to rival Epic Games, Unity.
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Darius87
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if PS5 Digital edition has price advantage on Xsex then it's bad news for MS.
Bo_Hazem
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Fun fact Tim Sweeney owns almost 50% of epic games shares = 8,93 billion $. If he would sell all of his epic games shares he could almost buy around 9% of Sony
Why would he though? Overall, I think after buying Quixel, and current success with Fortnite, Epic Games will grow faster and I would rather throw more than $250 million if I had the call.
It is a fun fact.... that it would be possible, nobody said he would do that...
sircaw
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I think even at parity it's going to be hard for microsoft. Sony's Brand name is just to powerful, Microsoft really fucked themselves last generation. There hardware is good, but realistically Sony has to make some serious blunders for MS to get back into the frame.
I mean, in general that's why you hear from Spencer and the other Cronies every few days, they need to get out there to get noticed.
I would even be bold enough to say that microsofts need to undercut sony, to try and steal some of the marketshare back, they are rich enough to do it.
But then again, Microsoft says Sony are not there competition.
Not even sure if Microsoft knows what they are doing, time will tell.
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FranXico
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I think people are underestimating how much consumers are going to resist digital only consoles.
If Sony hikes the price of the disc console to push the discless console sales, it will backfire.
I wouldnt put any weight into what Jez says considering he joined in on that ps5 overheating FUD campaign
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Deleted member 775630
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But they are thinking Sony is going to lower the discless version in pricing. So obviously the disc version will be more expensive, but most people seem to think that Sony would really go low with the DE. So 399-499 instead of 499-599.
FranXico
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Personally, I think they should take the hit on the disc console (399) and make the digital one 349 at most. That would be competitive and still make the discless console appealing.
And I reiterate, consumers know how gimped one is without a disc drive. They expect due compensation.
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CrysisFreak
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That would be a bit too high of a loss. Although they could afford it in theory.
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Deleted member 775630
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I would be very very surprised if the consoles are only 349/399. In case of the DE this would mean they take a $70-$100 hit per console, great for consumers of course, but would seem a bit steep knowing how easily Playstation sells. 449/499 or 399/499 seems more likely, hopefully we'll know more later today
WelshBluebird
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I think people are overestimating the resistance.
We are already at the point (and have been for a few years now) where the vast majority of game sales in the US are digital.
Granted that is skewed by the PC and Steam a bit, but even for PS4 specifically, globally the majority of game sales on the system are digital now.
Sure, there will be regional variations (countries with worse internet infrastructure will be be more resistant), but in general I think people are ready for an all digital console.
If you look at music and films, people had the same arguments against an all digital future there too. And look what happened.
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silent head
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RTX 2080TI 4,352 shaders, 11 GB GDDR6 with a 352 bit interface (14 GHz, 616 GB/s for the Founders Edition). Furthermore, the 2080Ti includes 544 Tensor cores and 68 raytracing cores.
After accessing a preview build of the game, Digital Foundry's Tom Morgan noted how demanding the game was on PC, revealing that the preview ran at a locked 1080p 30FPS at what appeared to be Ultra settings on an RTX 2080 Ti. Note, that this preview build was likely locked at 30FPS to match the game's console editions, and to deliver stable capture footage. Even so, unlocking the game's framerate proved exactly how demanding Watch Dogs: Legion can be.
When running the game with "maxed settings", Ubisoft's preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion was unable to run at 60FPS on a PC with an RTX 2080 Ti. This highlights how demanding Watch Dogs: Legion can be with ray tracing enabled, though it is worth noting that Ubisoft's AAA PC games often go overkill when it comes to graphical settings. Just try running any recent Assassin's Creed game on PC with maxed out settings...
While it looks like ray tracing will be a demanding feature on Watch Dogs: Legion, it is worth noting that the game will support DLSS on PC. This feature will help boost the performance of Nvidia's latest RTX series graphics cards, though this feature wasn't tested as part of Digital Foundry's early analysis.
At this time, we can only guess at the performance impact of ray tracing within Watch Dogs: Legion. Many other advanced PC settings could be crippling the game's RTX 2080 Ti performance. Even so, sub-60FPS performance at 1080p on at £1000ish graphics card isn't great, even if it is with a pre-release version of the game.
Neo Blaster
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And once again, Tom embarasses himself by not reading the entire info.He absolutely forgot or chose not to post this bit:
MasterCornholio
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saintjules
Member
Oh shit. MS taking the price hit to compete against PS5.
More Power to gamers.
Indeed. win/win situation as ill devote that extra $100 or so to another game and pocket the rest.
Wraith Phantom
Member
It's obvious that the deal only contains studios with no IP's. Sony would've easily sealed the deal with all that hard cash and passion to make quality entertainment. Sony already does CGI for Warner Bros mvoies via Sony Pictures Imageworks:
ImageworksVFX
Sony Pictures Imageworks is the Academy Award®-winning visual effects and animation unit of Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group known for live-action visual e...
Sony is helping the big boys, I expect most of those would rather have Disney, Warner Bros., Marvel games being Sony PS5 exclusives to give their IP's the hype they deserve, instead of EA's lootboxes or other infamous companies known to deliver crap quality.
Really looking forward to the next gen games from PS Studio & 2nd party & collab projects. Looks like they are targeting that hollywood VFX level. They are trying to get around that level at least. PS5 can do it so should be good in the future.
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Neo Blaster
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See? Do Xbox fans really believe a third party publisher would offer a different treatment for each platform just because MS chose to put a fancy name on it?
Neo Blaster
Member
I really wonder if MS will disclose console sales numbers again...
Neo Blaster
Member
Do you mean trade a physical copy for a digital one? How can one do that?
FranXico
Member
If they outsell PlayStation, they will proudly disclose the sales numbers again.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
If that is even remotely true I’ll lose my shit
My guess $429/459 euros/449 pounds for discless edition Disc edition would be $489/ 519 pounds 499 euros
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Deleted member 775630
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Probably not since they'll still be losing, and it's also a vanity metric that doesn't really say anything and can only be used for marketing purposes.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Not getting my hopes up for any announcement today but lets see.
My 3 levels of possible pricing going by internet chatter:
Low = $349(DE), $399(Disc)
Expected = $399(DE), $499(Disc)
High = $449(DE), $549(Disc)
My 3 levels of possible pricing going by internet chatter:
Low = $349(DE), $399(Disc)
Expected = $399(DE), $499(Disc)
High = $449(DE), $549(Disc)
pasterpl
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RTX 2080TI 4,352 shaders, 11 GB GDDR6 with a 352 bit interface (14 GHz, 616 GB/s for the Founders Edition). Furthermore, the 2080Ti includes 544 Tensor cores and 68 raytracing cores.
After accessing a preview build of the game, Digital Foundry's Tom Morgan noted how demanding the game was on PC, revealing that the preview ran at a locked 1080p 30FPS at what appeared to be Ultra settings on an RTX 2080 Ti. Note, that this preview build was likely locked at 30FPS to match the game's console editions, and to deliver stable capture footage. Even so, unlocking the game's framerate proved exactly how demanding Watch Dogs: Legion can be.
When running the game with "maxed settings", Ubisoft's preview build of Watch Dogs: Legion was unable to run at 60FPS on a PC with an RTX 2080 Ti. This highlights how demanding Watch Dogs: Legion can be with ray tracing enabled, though it is worth noting that Ubisoft's AAA PC games often go overkill when it comes to graphical settings. Just try running any recent Assassin's Creed game on PC with maxed out settings...
While it looks like ray tracing will be a demanding feature on Watch Dogs: Legion, it is worth noting that the game will support DLSS on PC. This feature will help boost the performance of Nvidia's latest RTX series graphics cards, though this feature wasn't tested as part of Digital Foundry's early analysis.
At this time, we can only guess at the performance impact of ray tracing within Watch Dogs: Legion. Many other advanced PC settings could be crippling the game's RTX 2080 Ti performance. Even so, sub-60FPS performance at 1080p on at £1000ish graphics card isn't great, even if it is with a pre-release version of the game.
ubisoft are real masters of optimisation, their games dont even look that amazing to justify these levels of performance on high end gpu’s
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Sony Pictures Imageworks Vs Quixel, Decima Vs Unreal Engine. I think Sony should really consider that, and even have people from around the globe to contribute to the assets library and them licensed/sold to Sony for a fee or have a cut from every user used them would make many freelancers/professionals contribute into enlarging and surpassing the quixel megascans, if not already bigger as Imageworks been around since 27 years!
hemo memo
Gold Member
I meant downloading the digital upgraded version then selling the physical version. That’s why it’s:
physical to physical
Digital to digital
How? Lockheart is PS5 digital equivalent not XSX.
To the average consumer:
XSX - PS5 = XSX is cheaper
XSS - PS5D = XSS is cheaper
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Thirty7ven
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The average consumer isn’t dumb, contrary to popular belief. Your average consumer will know a XSS isn’t to XSX what PS5 DE is to PS5.
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Deleted member 775630
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Indeed, one might also be 150-200$ cheaper. Consumers understand that you won't get a similar experience then
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