It’s performance. But devs will solve it, I think
To be honest, based on what I have seen so far, PS5 clearly has better RT capability, which puzzles me a lot. I do believe PS5’s RT may be a special customization.
They've been treating Xbox as PC since the OG Xbox. Xbox is a contraction of Direct X Box - because it was a standalone piece of PC-style hardware powered by Microsoft's DirectX API and a derivative of the NT Kernel.
We still don't know a lot of the guts inside the PS5. I do believe they've done something to ray-tracing capabilities, but I don't think it will match Series X at the end of the day. More compute units do have an impact. What I'm mostly curious about in relation to the PS5 is the impact of the custom cache scrubbers and coherency engine. Also what has been done with the geometry engine and possible tweaks to ray-tracing. I think it's obvious, at the end of the day, the Series X GPU has the advantage due to it being wider, but I find the efficiencies built into the PS5 more interesting.It’s performance. But devs will solve it, I think
To be honest, based on what I have seen so far, PS5 clearly has better RT capability, which puzzles me a lot. I do believe PS5’s RT may be a special customization.
Extra CU doesn’t automatically translate to better RT. Xbx CU runs at a much lower frequency. Besides not all CUs can RT at the same time. The number of intersections xbx can do in a real workload is going to be very interesting. Among all things, I’m mostly interested to see some real and well optimized xbx RT demos. Minecraft demo actually proved my point.
maybe in 5 years or so. I don’t know. It’s too distant. This is very similar to the old debate between core duo 2 and q6600. games performed better on duo2 initially due to higher frequency but q6600 eventually took over. the thing is, after three years, no one would care. RTX6080 may run 8k/120 with RT.
I'll be interested in upgrading my PC once Nvidia or AMD brings multi-chip-moduals and 3D stacking to their GPU. That's when performance will get nuts. Looking forward to RDNA3 and Hopper.maybe in 5 years or so. I don’t know. It’s too distant. This is very similar to the old debate between core duo 2 and q6600. games performed better on duo2 initially due to higher frequency but q6600 eventually took over. the thing is, after three years, no one would care. RTX6080 may run 8k/120 with RT.
Even if specific customizations are out of the equation, RT performance is also tied to clock frequency. XSX can theoreticaly cast 18% more rays but PS5 can generate 20% more bounces. So i can't see XSX having a clear advantage there.
I think this is getting well into the nda scope. Haha, at the end of the day, we will simply enjoy the system performance that we thought was impossible.Bumped into this a while back, some interesting stuff, maybe related to how the PS5 APU functions. Can’t seem to find the orignal tweet, he may have deleted it.
Anyone else think Matt is quietly speaking about the PS5? Sony NDA no joke.Bumped into this a while back, some interesting stuff, maybe related to how the PS5 APU functions. Can’t seem to find the orignal tweet, he may have deleted it.
I think he is talking about the Cache Scrubbers in the second part.Bumped into this a while back, some interesting stuff, maybe related to how the PS5 APU functions. Can’t seem to find the orignal tweet, he may have deleted it.
True I made a typo. What I said though is still true. Doesn't change the facts about Xbox bloated OS.
Yes, definitely seem's like he's indirectly speaking about the PS5's APU. If so, the first tweet discussing the latency of the caches falls in line with what RGT leaked about the PS5's CPU having unified CCX clusters (Zen 3) which helps to reduce latency in caches significantly.
I've always thought that in some posts where he's just talking about how a certain thing works, he's really talking about how the PS5 works. Sneaky Matt.
I don't think he was a traditional employee to begin with. Just a contractor.
He works at Roblox now, he's a veteran member of his field so my guess is Roblox made him a very lucrative offer to join them.
Yup, kinda like Mark Cerny where he's just an empleyee until he's done with the project.
Ah that explains why it says they will notify you when a release date is announced,thanks.
I am not a poll expert but I dont think ANY dog can manipulate a 40k sample. especially in twitter its one vote per account, so he could have retweeted 1.000 times and it would make very little difference.
Talking about the front ports, can you charge faster using the USB-C port or there's no difference at all?
sure, share them, why not?
I don't think so because Sony said the USB-C port on the controller is 5 Gbps, same as the USB-A port on the front of the console.
The Linneman poll is 57% PS, 43% Xbox across 48,000 pollers. In order to get a 70/30 split for PS you'd need another 13% shifting out of Xbox.
| PS | 57% | 27,360 |
| Xbox | 43% | 20,640 |
| Total voters | 100% | 48,000 |
| PS | 70% | 27,360 |
| Xbox | 30% | 11,726 |
| Total voters | 100% | 39,086 |
does it mean we will see actual xbx gameplay soon? Really looking forward to it.
The one advantage I can think of right now are particle effects. Theoretically, the Series X should be able pull off some insane particle effects since those do scale well with more CUs/parallel processing. But then again, Cerny talked about how the primitive shaders feature from their custom GE should be able to deal with something like particle effects much more efficiently without consuming too much GPU power. Will we see a big difference in these areas between the XSX and the PS5? We gotta wait until we see some AAA third-party games running on both consoles side-by-side.
The polls are pointless. The actual sales will tell.
There is a few games with in the last month running on Xbox Series X hardware. Dirt 5 and Medium. There are more getting up and running better on Xbox Series X. Launch games should be fine. Halo Infinite and Forza was supposed to be launch titles or launch window titles but where delayed because of these issues.
That's the only poll showing the consoles that close and what a suprise, it's a 'eurogamer' poll...
I was actually surprised and not so surprised by the particle effects in the Demon Soul's and Spiderman Miles Morales gameplay, they look beautiful.
