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[zaitsu]

I shared some intel with @Mod of War

Sorry if I say things that are truths that offend certain groups of people

Love to see his response

 

[dotnotbot]

inb4 Whole PS5 is so big because it's entire cooling system is passive and that fan is just for an external nmve

Spoiler:

jk

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Love to see his response

He has seen stuff and I havent angered the Gods yet.

I wont make outlandish claims unless I can prove something even if its behind the curtains and just hope thats good enough for the masses.

But thats all I will say about any bias there.

I have said my peace and that subject is dead to me moving forward.

I still watch about every video they put out.

 

[LED Guy?]

You did an amazing job!

Thanks man! I appreciate it!

 

[sircaw]

He has seen stuff and I havent angered the Gods yet.

I wont make outlandish claims unless I can prove something even if its behind the curtains and just hope thats good enough for the masses.

But thats all I will say about any bias there.

I have said my peace and that subject is dead to me moving forward.

I still watch about every video they put out.

You can tell me i won't tell a soul i promise. Scouts honor, Brownies too.




You got the cash people, message me, i got a scoop.

 

[Elysion]

I wish Sony would’ve left the colored symbols on the face buttons. Not sure why they made them all the same; those symbols with their different colors are pretty iconic after all.

 

[Knitted Knight]

This whole thing is gonna leak while I sleep. Ohh well.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

How can you spin something that is measurable and repeatable by other parties? Digital Foundry aren't the only people who can pixel count and measure frame rates. So if they are lying about the results then where are the results from other parties that contradict them?

weren't they downplaying the downsides of sub 1080p resolution from xbox one during the early days of the ps4 xbox one generation?

an example

Series S doing dynamic 4k lol.

Truly lol.

If we go to 1440p on later titles of next gen, we might see dynamic 1080p on the series s. It also lacks the ram to hold 4k assets even for last gen games xbox one x versions.

It doesn't scale like that.

X1X is 6 Tflops, what was Xbox 360........now go and check the benchmarks for GTA IV and get back to me.

xbox 360 is power pc and has to be emulated. Xbox one is x86 and it should essentially be able to run with almost no change in the new console.

 

[PresetError]

Man, the more next gen approaches the more boring are the news about it. November will come and I will be totally deflated and still playing Rocket League.

 

[Ptarmiganx2]

I half expect PS5 to boot in like 5 seconds.

Agreed. Sony started with that design philosophy. MS went the traditional route with VA tagged on. The PS5 is built for speed and it will be noticeable better that regard.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

 

[Ptarmiganx2]

Well its def not new games, Oh God i did say that. HERE I COME BO. i am joining you.

Time to upgrade that single-humped camel to a double.

Lmfao. I’m calling it now 2020 XSX game of the year: Quick Resume.

 

[jamwest24]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

Not yet, but I feel like that keyboard might be of good use to figure out scale.

 

[MasterCornholio]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

There's a thread where they say it's around 140mm. So it doesn't appear to be a small one.

 

[Physiognomonics]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

No need for the keyboard. What you are looking at is almost the whole PS5 without the 2 covers and upside down. The PS5 is 260mm deep and that fan is at least half that.

 

[Lysandros]

~Better resolution on XOX, better texture on PRO...

And take into considereation the delta between those two in GPU (40%), CPU and RAM (4 gigs more)

Will be funny to see much more of that in PS5/XSX compariosions due XSS

XOX doesn't have better resolution, they are both 1080P. XOX performs better, PS4 pro has better textures as you said. PS4 is 1080P and also has better performance than XboxOne (900P). PS4 running at higher resolutions than XboxOne while having better framerates was very common this generation, indicating that the real world performance was greater than just 40%, probably around 50%.

 

[saintjules]

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

I would estimate the keyboard to be 150mm/6inches wide/deep and I would eyeball the metal fan cover to be ~125mm diameter with ~100mm for the fan itself (I believe the fans for a RTX 3090 are 110mm for comparison).

 

[kyliethicc]

So I havent been keeping up with everything but has anyone worked out the size of that fan in the background in relationship to that keyboard?

There's a thread where they say it's around 140mm. So it doesn't appear to be a small one.

XSX has a 120 or 130 mm axial fan. PS4 had around 85 mm centrifugal fan. A 130-140 mm for how big the PS5 is makes sense.

 

[kyliethicc]

So am I looking at this right? Is this the bottom of the internals of disc model PS5 ?

Spoiler

 

[MasterCornholio]

XSX has a 120 or 130 mm axial fan. PS4 had around 85 mm centrifugal fan. A 130-140 mm for how big the PS5 is makes sense.

That makes sense to me. And also it appears the PS5 might be thick enough to house fans in the other side as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more than one in the system.

With that said I'm curious to see the heat sink.

 

[Lysandros]

You wait till the digital foundry reviews come out for multiplats, a lot of xbox fans have got all there chips in on that.

Just imagine there is no difference, or god forbid ps5 comes out better.

This place will be carnage.

There is always the route of the lower internal resolutions based on their (DF) feelings so..

 

[xacto]

I would estimate the keyboard to be 150mm/6inches wide/deep and I would eyeball the metal fan cover to be ~125mm diameter with ~100mm for the fan itself (I believe the fans for a RTX 3090 are 110mm for comparison).

Maybe the keyboard is one of the smaller-format ones, and it will throw us off the mark here...

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So am I looking at this right? Is this the bottom of the internals of disc model PS5 ?

I think so

 

[MasterCornholio]

So am I looking at this right? Is this the bottom of the internals of disc model PS5 ?

I think this picture contains the covers for the disk version. You can see the slot in them.

 

[Shmunter]

Just Astros Playroom for the PS5 hands on? Noooooooo

 

[demigod]

No need for the keyboard. What you are looking at is almost the whole PS5 without the 2 covers and upside down. The PS5 is 260mm deep and that fan is at least half that.

That fan is small, no way its over 100mm.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

we

Microsoft sent units to Japanese reviewers too though, earlier than Sony as well

Just confirmed that MS Sent to entire world not sony. Soo whatever people send before about no xbox in japan is not correct. looks like Sony doesn't care about west. I want to see a review in English

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Maybe the keyboard is one of the smaller-format ones, and it will throw us off the mark here...

It could be but it looks very similar to my own keyboard to be honest. I still think it is possible the cooling solution is the one that means a motherboard sandwiched between two HSF, one bigger one for the APU/RAM and another smaller one for the SSD flash chips and controller on the opposite side. PS5 is big/thick enough to do that.

Not fussed either way as long as reviews say it is as quiet as XSX is said to be so far.

 

[TLZ]

So those who ordered from Amazon, does yours state a delivery date yet?

Wondering if this means mine has a chance of slipping.

Does it say "We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date."?

If so, I guess yes it'll be delayed a few days.

 

[captainraincoat]

What the fuck.....ps4 saves won’t transfer over on dirt5 and Yakuza to ps5

thought it was a joke

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Previews said they gonna play next gen games close to launch so this is false.

I think PS5 is bigger

 

[Lysandros]

I believe it will be the "textures clash between them" and not a resolution/framerate one anymore.

If things come down to textures, i can't see how XSX could win with its significantly lower data throughput.

 

[LED Guy?]

That's what I feel about Google's Stadia, it's a trash service with no console, wrote this tweet because Google came out cocky with their "Say goodbye to downloads, installs, and wait times." messaging.

 

[Nowcry]

What the fuck.....ps4 saves won’t transfer over on dirt5 and Yakuza to ps5

thought it was a joke

I am not sure what causes this.

Could it be that the old saves with Keys filtered by the Scene are played directly on PS5 (in PS5 mode)?

Maybe the games before X.xx system version are compromised and to avoid the possible key leak by brute force by having two comparatives they are simply useless?

It's a speculation of mine.

 

[ethomaz]

I am not sure what causes this.

Could it be that the old saves with Keys filtered by the Scene are played directly on PS5 (in PS5 mode)?

Maybe the games before X.xx system version are compromised and to avoid the possible key leak by brute force by having two comparatives they are simply useless?

It's a speculation of mine.

That could make sense of the others PS games didn’t transfer too.

 

[Redlight]

I shared some intel with @Mod of War

Sorry if I say things that are truths that offend certain groups of people

Don't tease it, then say you can't comment further because 'reasons'.

If you have information that you can't share publicly, then keep it to yourself.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Don't tease it, then say you can't comment further because 'reasons'.

If you have information that you can't share publicly, then keep it to yourself.

Yesh let it go he's already apologized for any truths that may have offended you

 

[reksveks]

You have no idea. Journalists are doing it since the invention of newspapers. But measurable you say ? This is their last video title:



Does it seem like a statement about some pixel or fps ? I mean, XBX is 6tflops, XSX is 12tflops and the results (from their cherry picked games) are showing from 1.5 to 2x better performance. Objectively the BC performance is just about what was expected, even lower than expected in some cases. But no, according to them, the performance is extreme.

Cause games can still have a capped frame rate, I think most games that was unlocked on one x cause it was greater than 30fps still had a max cap of 60fps maybe due to hdmi 2.0b limitation. They could also have other bottlenecks. Really we need to see how old ps4 games runs on the ps5 however that's also partially a Sony marketing issue if they haven't sent out a unit to those guys already.

 

[MasterCornholio]

If you have information that you can't share publicly, then keep it to yourself.

He's already shared it. Plus he sent it to the mods.

If you have an issue with what he shares with us then I suggest talking to an admin about it.

 

[reksveks]

What the fuck.....ps4 saves won’t transfer over on dirt5 and Yakuza to ps5

thought it was a joke

I don't know what the reasonable default position is for consumers to have on cross gen saves for games like cyberpunk or assassin creed.

Also the black controller looks really shit and can't put my finger on it, might be the finish.

 

[Redlight]

Yesh let it go he's already apologized for any truths that may have offended you

He's already shared it. Plus he sent it to the mods.

If you have an issue with what he shares with us then I suggest talking to an admin about it.

...or, how about I take it up with the person posting the material rather than involve a mod?

It's a simple principle. I think that if you have insider info and you can share it, great. Get it verified and off you go!
If you can't share it, also fine, but keep it to yourself rather than making vague hints and then refusing to clarify.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

...or, how about I take it up with the person posting the material rather than involve a mod?

It's a simple principle. I think that if you have insider info and you can share it, great. Get it verified and off you go!
If you can't share it, also fine, but keep it to yourself rather than making vague hints and then refusing to clarify.

There's a third option

Stop crying and press ignore if you don't like what he's sharing

 

[MasterCornholio]

Double post.

Dang you 3liteDragon you beat me to it.

 

[saintjules]

 

[MasterCornholio]

...or, how about I take it up with the person posting the material rather than involve a mod?

It's a simple principle. I think that if you have insider info and you can share it, great. Get it verified and off you go!
If you can't share it, also fine, but keep it to yourself rather than making vague hints and then refusing to clarify.

Just ignore him if you don't like what he shares. Some of us do appreciate HeisenbergFX4 insight here.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

Apparently “real“ ps5 startup.

https://v.redd.it/bi0x7bqezrq51

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Wait, so the game is using temporal injection in the 4K/60 mode according to the PlayStation website. But if you pixel count the footage it looks as native 4K? count me the fuck in!

 

[icy121]