FranXico
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There's an obvious joke here everybody thought of, but... I'm not going to write it here.
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kyliethicc
Member
no shit
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Kraken is 10-50% better in games size compression, and 300% (4x times) faster than ZLIB in decompression and sending them to RAM/CPU/GPU. So the delta of speed extends into Kraken vs ZLIB.
So you either get 10-50% smaller games on PS5 than XSX, or you have much, much higher quality assets for PS5 for the same size.
EDIT: And that's all software, not with kraken HW acceleration on PS5.
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Handy Fake
Member
kyliethicc
Member
I imagine its tough, on top of the pain of having to wait til next year for Craiglo.
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kyliethicc
Member
welcome back, ya sonygaf legend
bitbydeath
Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Thanks, mate! That oodle shit is VERY big, some aren't aware of it yet. You can either have 10-50% storage efficiency with that 825GB, or use the headroom for much higher polygon assets!
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IbelieveInGenerations
Banned
We are Bos, and we are plenty.
Time for the HYPE!
誇大広告！
We are Bos, and we are plenty.
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Time for the HYPE!
誇大広告！
Xbox fans reaction with Bo's return
Xbox fans reaction to Bo's Return
HawarMiran
Banned
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah definitely, obviously the PS5 is going to sell way more than XSX/XSS, but I meant that the amount of hype of people looking forward to the PS5 isn't more than those looking forward to the XSX.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, I learned a lot while out, I can tell you that. Next time it'll be 1600% zooms, something above and beyond to make it easier for all readers to see what I was talking about
But not now, it's time for hype! Tomorrow gonna be a glorious day!Xbox fans reaction with Bo's return
Xbox fans reaction to Bo's Return
Cerny was extremely "conservative" with his "10%" compression advantage over ZLIB (used in xboxes and PS4). This is not big, this is HUGE! 10-50% storage efficiency is critical, whether for higher quality assets or just keeping games sizes down. Why you think Sony showed DS as 66GB and Spider-man MM as 50GB? Yup, it's a show off
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Dude... I mean, just look at the views and tell me again there is more interest for the XSX compared to the PS5. I'm going to add the main big reveals from each console for comparison.
Xbox Series X:
Xbox Series X - World Premiere - 4K Trailer (System Reveal from TGA 2019) - 14,788,159 views
Xbox Series X Hands On, Gameplay & Controller! (Austin Evans video) - 15,544,462 views
DF Direct: Hands-On With Xbox Series X + Impressions + Xbox One X Size Comparisons! - 1,136,215 views
First Look Xbox Series X Gameplay - 1,638,262 views
Xbox Games Showcase [ENGLISH] - 936,283 views
Xbox Series S - World Premiere Reveal Trailer - 6,454,627 views
PS5:
The Road to PS5 - 16,158,680 views
Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5 - 14,458,546 views
[ENGLISH] PS5 - THE FUTURE OF GAMING SHOW - 15,054,721 views
PS5 Hardware Reveal Trailer - 33,355,719 views
PlayStation 5: Hands on With the DualSense PS5 Controller - 1,058,615 views
PLAYSTATION 5 SHOWCASE [ENGLISH] - 4,727,917 views
And this is just YouTube we are talking about.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
He's coming tomorrow! Don't worry. And for all the guys here, I've been reading everything you guys posted, it's heartwarming. Seen you guys on the ban thread as well, and even on youtube!
This makes it hard not to love you all back!
mitchman
Gold Member
I know what you meant to say, but just a tiny nitpick. GB/s is Gigabytes per second, Gb/s is Gigabits per second. Upper and lowercase matters in this regard
Zoro7
Banned
This just isn’t true. I’m sure there’s hype for the Xbox but it’s incomparable to the PS5. The views on the YouTube videos and poll results are proof of that.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
We are Bos, and we are plenty.
Time for the HYPE!
誇大広告！
Zoro7
Banned
WELCOME BACK!!!! Fish missed you big time.He's coming tomorrow! Don't worry. And for all the guys here, I've been reading everything you guys posted, it's heartwarming. Seen you guys on the ban thread as well, and even on youtube!
This makes it hard not to love you all back!
FunkMiller
Member
It has to be said, I'm quite surprised at how elegant it looks in real life.
I was fully prepared for it to look like a complete eyesore - and while it's still clearly a big bitch, it has quite a pleasing, interesting shape to it that I don't mind at all. I thought all the renders made it seem a lot more aesthetically pleasing than it really would be in reality, but it looks like they were all accurate. I think I'd better measure the shelves on my tv stand though. Could need some KY Jelly to slide her on in there...
I was fully prepared for it to look like a complete eyesore - and while it's still clearly a big bitch, it has quite a pleasing, interesting shape to it that I don't mind at all. I thought all the renders made it seem a lot more aesthetically pleasing than it really would be in reality, but it looks like they were all accurate. I think I'd better measure the shelves on my tv stand though. Could need some KY Jelly to slide her on in there...
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Thanks!
Missed his stinky smell.It has to be said, I'm quite surprised at how elegant it looks in real life.
I was fully prepared for it to look like a complete eyesore - and while it's still clearly a big bitch, it has quite a pleasing, interesting shape to it that I don't mind at all. I thought all the renders made it seem a lot more aesthetically pleasing than it really would be in reality, but it looks like they were all accurate. I think I'd better measure the shelves on my tv stand though. Could need some KY Jelly to slide her on in there...
He even fits with the colors with his white/black clothes! Used to play many games in Japanese with no translation, and even beat the games like Captain Tusbasa and Goal III on Family Game (NES) and some on PS1 like Winning Eleven to the point I started reading some sort of literal system that sounds like a simplified version of Japanese used for foreign languages.
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
It has to be said, I'm quite surprised at how elegant it looks in real life.
I was fully prepared for it to look like a complete eyesore - and while it's still clearly a big bitch, it has quite a pleasing, interesting shape to it that I don't mind at all. I thought all the renders made it seem a lot more aesthetically pleasing than it really would be in reality, but it looks like they were all accurate. I think I'd better measure the shelves on my tv stand though. Could need some KY Jelly to slide her on in there...
It is a really sleek design and the dualsense is also really nice.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
My crowd? Do you think I only have friends that play on Xbox? I live In Europe, I'm obviously in the minority here
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Zadom
Member
Bo_Hazeem is back!Thanks!
He even fits with the colors with his white/black clothes! Used to play many games in Japanese with no translation, and even beat the games like Captain Tusbasa and Goal III on Family Game (NES) and some on PS1 like Winning Eleven to the point I started reading some sort of literal system that sound like a simplified version of Japanese used for foreign languages.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Bo_Hazeem is back!
Just in case of what I was talking about previously, had to make it 1600% for all to easily understand:
You see 4 blocks of mostly compensation for one pixel, a sign of upscaling. Also the line itself has a soft color to it that's near transparent: (1600% zoom)
Demon's Souls, you find much more unique, independent pixels and finer gradation even for an asset that's much more away from the view compared to the above. (1600% zoom)
Picked from the right side, the wall.
You can't find aliasing that easy, so it's near impossible to pixel count in the traditional way of DF that relies on hard-edged lines. And yes, they use Paint as well, nothing special:
Without further investigation of how pixels are forming the image, you can't really have a sharp indication of the true resolution. That's why they didn't provide evidence. Also, VRS makes things extremely hard as well, as it could be partial resolution like the 720p parts in Halo.
The only aliasing I found in DS was this:
This could be VRS, and also could be a result of lower res image error/LOD, or a sign that the 4K final image is AI reconstructed from lower resolution similar to DLSS on Nvidia, probably the newly patented one.
Sony files image reconstruction patent that sounds similar to DLSS 2.0, possibly for use on PS5
Sony has filed a patent for an image reconstruction technique. On the surface, this method seems similar to NVIDIA's DLSS 2.0 reconstruction, which uses AI learning to reconstruct a ...
www.androidcentral.com
Though, the final image is indeed 4K, whether it's native or masterfully reconstructed it needs further confirmations.
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
I think the youtuber will play godfall as well.
FunkMiller
Member
Needless to say, with these potentially fake videos and pictures of the UI floating about, Sony need to pull their fingers out and show us the damn thing properly.
Rea
Member
Welcome back bro. Miss ya.
existensmaximum
Member
Can you imagine Naughty Dog’s PS5 project?! I can’t!
Yeah, technically and graphically these guys just blow away any competition. It's not even close.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
So 500K more views when it comes to the most watched video of both. Wow 3% more, knowing they have outsold Xbox 2:1 pas generation...
chilichote
Member
Just in case of what I was talking about previously, had to make it 1600% for all to easily understand:
You see 4 blocks of mostly compensative for one pixel, a sign of upscaling. Also the line itself has a soft color to it that's near transparent: (1600% zoom)
Demon's Souls, you find much more unique, independent pixels and finer gradation even for an asset that's much more away from the view compared to the above. (1600% zoom)
Picked from the right side, the wall.
You can't find aliasing that easy, so it's near impossible to pixel count in the traditional way of DF that relies on hard-edged lines. And yes, they use Paint as well, nothing special:
Without further investigation of how pixels are forming the photo, you can really have a sharp indication of the true resolution. That's why they didn't provide evidence. Also, VRS makes things extremely hard as well, as it could be partial resolution like the 720p parts in Halo.
The only aliasing I found in DS was this:
This could be VRS, and also could be a result of lower res image error/LOD, or a sign that the 4K final image is AI reconstructed from lower resolution similar to DLSS on Nvidia, probably the newly patented one.
Sony files image reconstruction patent that sounds similar to DLSS 2.0, possibly for use on PS5
Sony has filed a patent for an image reconstruction technique. On the surface, this method seems similar to NVIDIA's DLSS 2.0 reconstruction, which uses AI learning to reconstruct a ...
Though, the final image is indeed 4K, whether it's native or masterfully reconstructed it needs further confirmations.
If you use the GIMP, you can zoom in much further (25600%) - no idea whether that makes sense, but it works^^
Edit: welcome back btw!
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SSfox
Member
Snowdonhoffen
Member
What? just 500K in the most watched video? I think you skipped a tiny little video.
cudiye
Member
Can you imagine Naughty Dog’s PS5 project?! I can’t!
At what cost? A narcissistic director who drove close to 70% of their workers away. I agree with them being the best in the business graphically and technically but narratively? They’re shit.
mejin
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TrippleA345
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chilichote
Member
Yes, unfortunately it makes the impression. We are living in the age of fake news. It is all the more important to build up our own skills and to counteract it!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Well, I learned a lot while out, I can tell you that. Next time it'll be 1600% zooms, something above and beyond to make it easier for all readers to see what I was talking about
Cerny was extremely "conservative" with his "10%" compression advantage over ZLIB (used in xboxes and PS4). This is not big, this is HUGE! 10-50% storage efficiency is critical, whether for higher quality assets or just keeping games sizes down. Why you think Sony showed DS as 66GB and Spider-man MM as 50GB? Yup, it's a show off
Could that compression and decompression be used for audio as well in lossless format? Since audio are some of the largest footprints.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
And it was just the animators, not the 70% of the entire studio, just saying, let's not spread misinformation.
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existensmaximum
Member
That makes one of us then. I loved TLOU2, it's story and execution.
Easily one of the top 5 games of the generation for me.
Crazychipmunx
Member
You can't math...
SSfox
Member
It has to be said, I'm quite surprised at how elegant it looks in real life.
I was fully prepared for it to look like a complete eyesore - and while it's still clearly a big bitch, it has quite a pleasing, interesting shape to it that I don't mind at all. I thought all the renders made it seem a lot more aesthetically pleasing than it really would be in reality, but it looks like they were all accurate. I think I'd better measure the shelves on my tv stand though. Could need some KY Jelly to slide her on in there...
Design of both console and pad looks sexy AF
cudiye
Member
That makes one of us then. I loved TLOU2, it's story and execution.
Easily one of the top 5 games of the generation for me.
to each there own my guy, im glad you found enjoyment in the game, i just wished it was better
Well, isn't this post incredibly illuminating?Bo_Hazem IS BACK!! WELCOME WELCOME! Let's storm on these Xbox fans and show them how useless Xbox Series X is and how PS5 is way superior in everyway (truth). ❤
Oh and by the way, PlayStation 5 cold boots in more 20 seconds if those leaks were real, that is a bit slower than Xbox Series X which means it's over for PlayStation, Xbox will DESTROY Sony because of it!!
If anyone really thinks that Xbox fans are the problem here, read the above and shake your head in wonder. This is Sony Gaf in action.
Imagine fanboying over Bo Hazem.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Well, isn't this post incredibly illuminating?
If anyone really thinks that Xbox fans are the problem here, read the above and shake your head in wonder. This is Sony Gaf in action.
Imagine fanboying over Bo Hazem.
I think you’re reading way too much into it.
cudiye
Member
And it was just the animators, not the 70% of the entire studio, just saying, let's not spread misinformation.
My bad, should’ve clarified more but yes they still fall under as “workers”
LED Guy?
Banned
I was just joking my guy, I love both Xbox & PS, I was just doing these kinds of theatrics, but OK, whatever.Well, isn't this post incredibly illuminating?
If anyone really thinks that Xbox fans are the problem here, read the above and shake your head in wonder. This is Sony Gaf in action.
Imagine fanboying over Bo Hazem.
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Bo_Hazem
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