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[TeamGhobad]

You should really consider fact checking your stories before running with them.

Here's the original article. Notice the difference?

The Best Looking Games Are on PS4 Thanks to Art Direction Rather Than Power, Says Dev

According to the developer of Erica, the best looking games are on PlayStation 4 thanks to the great art direction, which trumps power.

wccftech.com

i dont read articles i just post them.

 

[CyberPanda]

You should really consider fact checking your stories before running with them.

Here's the original article. Notice the difference?

The Best Looking Games Are on PS4 Thanks to Art Direction Rather Than Power, Says Dev

According to the developer of Erica, the best looking games are on PlayStation 4 thanks to the great art direction, which trumps power.

wccftech.com

Bingo bango

 

[TBiddy]

i dont read articles i just post them.

It's not even an article. You found an image somewhere and didn't even bother to fact-check it.

 

[megreotsugua]

Shots fired

Console war aside, I'm glad Sony is supporting devs who definitely have the programming chops but may have not been very successful in the past. Guerilla devs were not exactly hitting it out of the park until HZD came.

He seems very appreciative of Sony for him to trumpet this early that PS5 has the advantage. We'll see.

I'm very much looking forward to their work though. Can't wait for the games to be shown.

 

[CyberPanda]

It's not even an article. You found an image somewhere and didn't even bother to fact-check it.

Lmao

 

[TBiddy]

Console war aside, I'm glad Sony is supporting devs who definitely have the programming chops but may have not been very successful in the past. Guerilla devs were not exactly hitting it out of the park until HZD came.

He seems very appreciative of Sony for him to trumpet this early that PS5 has the advantage. We'll see.

I'm very much looking forward to their work though. Can't wait for the games to be shown.

It's fake. Don't trust it.

 

[CyberPanda]

It's fake. Don't trust it.

WccftechPakistan

 

[megreotsugua]

It's fake. Don't trust it.

Oh. That's better. I doubt multi-plat devs will even say something like that.

 

[Thorrgal]

The best insider Komachi already said the soc is 300mm^2, and xbox bigger • more cus• @ 350mm^2

No he didn't. Stop spreading lies.

The 300 rumor comes from an unverified user on a chinese forum , not Komachi

 

[it_wasn't_me]

MS doesn't have monopoly on VRS just their version of it.

Yes, that's understandable....for some

 

[Rossco EZ]

i hope to hear more about the PS5 cooling solution soon

 

[Negotiator]

MS doesn't have monopoly on VRS just their version of it.

Just like Sony has their own HLSL variant (PSSL). What's the difference with VRS?

Well, the difference is that Sony never overhypes their own API implementation.

I understand why MS always does that (promoting their Windows ecosystem), what I don't understand is why AMD would deliberately gimp their PC RDNA2 GPUs with Tier 1 VRS.

Imagine how ridiculous this would be... RX 5800/5900 cards having Tier 1, while XBOX has a Tier 2 12TF GPU.

Even Sony didn't make 8 ACEs (their own customization) exclusive to PS4. AMD was freely allowed to adopt it in GCN 1.1 cards.

I don't get why we must have these double standards.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

ٰVerification process is going on

Do you know if the SSD will be removable to upgrade to larger capacities? How customized is it compared to a PC counterpart?

 

[CyberPanda]

No he didn't. Stop spreading lies.

The 300 rumor comes from an unverified user on a chinese forum , not Komachi

Komachi linked it directly in a tweet.

 

[Blizzje]

My source confirmed for me at the beginning of the year between 1080 - 1080Ti performance. Seems to be right in-line.

For PS5 or for Xbox Series X?

 

[Thorrgal]

Komachi linked it directly in a tweet.

He didn't confirm anything though, just a link to that forum

Much less imply the PS5 is less powerful because of it

 

[Ar¢tos]

For those who want to know what they are talking about instead of talking bs they know nothing about .. here is the patent .. AWARDED TO MICROSOFT
Go Read the patent at https://patents.google.com/patent/US10235799B2/en

So sure sony can use it.. if they pay MS which seems doubtful since MS just called it out as an exclusive feature on their site.. as i pointed out the ONLY thing they call out so far from a technical standpoint as exclusive.

Your fanboyism is borderline depressing.
Do a patent search for Variable rate shading and you'll see that a ton of companies (including Nvidia and Sony) have a fucking ton of patents describing the exact same thing but using those words only in the description, not the titles.
Here is an excerpt of one from Sony:

Compression of the one or more transmitted images is adjusted so that fewer bits are needed to transmit data for portions of an image outside the one or more regions interest than for portions of the image within the one or more regions of interest

 

[Psyrgery ES]

Apisak also made some calculations and accordint to him Oberon could be around 350~377mm.

Not sure if he meant the devkit or final silicon

 

[Negotiator]

Apisak also made some calculations and accordint to him Oberon could be around 350~377mm.

Not sure if he meant the devkit or final silicon

Such a big die at 7nm EUV should be spacious enough to host 56 CUs.

 

[Mod of War]

I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch?

Can't say I'm surprised, though.

Nobody is vetted yet, don't spread BS.

 

[jonnyp]

Just like Sony has their own HLSL variant (PSSL). What's the difference with VRS?

Well, the difference is that Sony never overhypes their own API implementation.

I understand why MS always does that (promoting their Windows ecosystem), what I don't understand is why AMD would deliberately gimp their PC RDNA2 GPUs with Tier 1 VRS.

Imagine how ridiculous this would be... RX 5800/5900 cards having Tier 1, while XBOX has a Tier 2 12TF GPU.

Even Sony didn't make 8 ACEs (their own customization) exclusive to PS4. AMD was freely allowed to adopt it in GCN 1.1 cards.

I don't get why we must have these double standards.

Oh, let Lort have his day. It obviously means a lot to him that MS have patented their own implementation of it...

 

[Ar¢tos]

Now I'm even more hyped for PSVR2! After browsing the Sony "vrs" patents, I found that they are "spin-offs" of another load of patents for Foveated rendering for a "virtual reality" device (which is a similar technique) , and I only browsed the 2016 ones, there are certainly more. PSVR2 with Foveated rendering will be a mega improvement!

 

[V4skunk]

My uncles dogs friends owner who works at Sony says PS5 is going to be around 11 rdna terraflops.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just like Sony has their own HLSL variant (PSSL). What's the difference with VRS?

Well, the difference is that Sony never overhypes their own API implementation.

I understand why MS always does that (promoting their Windows ecosystem), what I don't understand is why AMD would deliberately gimp their PC RDNA2 GPUs with Tier 1 VRS.

Imagine how ridiculous this would be... RX 5800/5900 cards having Tier 1, while XBOX has a Tier 2 12TF GPU.

Even Sony didn't make 8 ACEs (their own customization) exclusive to PS4. AMD was freely allowed to adopt it in GCN 1.1 cards.

I don't get why we must have these double standards.

That is an easy one in which we all know the answer to.

 

[ANIMAL1975]

BTW PSM [2], same date as the first one. mark your calendars.

So which is it after all... First PSM or ps4 PSM?
And by the way, that gofreek thread, it was a good catch! I remember reading it back in May and thinking that it really could be da secret sauce .... Then ReRam speculation came about and everything become blurry lol

 

[ResilientBanana]

He didn't confirm anything though, just a link to that forum

Much less imply the PS5 is less powerful because of it

Spark man, like Mario with a star.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[V4skunk]

Even Sony didn't make 8 ACEs (their own customization) exclusive to PS4. AMD was freely allowed to adopt it in GCN 1.1 cards.

I don't get why we must have these double standards.

You mean AMD let Sony customise a gpu using already existing tech?

 

[jonnyp]

Spark man, like Mario with a star.

Sparkman? Does it shoot sparks randomly throughout your living room and the "game" is to put out the fires in your house before it burns down?

 

[TeamGhobad]

is 16gb enough?

 

[Rossco EZ]

Now I'm even more hyped for PSVR2! After browsing the Sony "vrs" patents, I found that they are "spin-offs" of another load of patents for Foveated rendering for a "virtual reality" device (which is a similar technique) , and I only browsed the 2016 ones, there are certainly more. PSVR2 with Foveated rendering will be a mega improvement!

am i correct in saying that using foveated rendering reduces load on the gpu?

 

[MadAnon]

Apisak also made some calculations and accordint to him Oberon could be around 350~377mm.

Not sure if he meant the devkit or final silicon

Where? As far as I know those are Arden (supposed Xbox) estimates from E3 APU shot.

 

[Ar¢tos]

am i correct in saying that using foveated rendering reduces load on the gpu?

Depends on dev approach. If you lower the res where the eyes aren't focused and do nothing else then yes. But it's also possible to reduce res where the eyes aren't focused and use the freed resources to increase res where the eyes are focused.
You can increase quality where the eyes are focused or increase performance (in non cpu dependant scenarios)

 

[Negotiator]

You mean AMD let Sony customise a gpu using already existing tech?

Cell/Xenon also utilized existing IBM-derived tech (PowerPC/PPE CPU core).

What's your point?

 

[TheStruggler]

New FPS flagship from one of sony fp studios you literally won't believe

wasnt it rumored that Naughty Dog got green lit for a brand new Sci-Fi IP? Wouldnt be surprised if it is First Person, if so HOT FUCKING DAMN

 

[TheStruggler]

me waiting for the vetting process like

 

[Lone Wolf]

wasnt it rumored that Naughty Dog got green lit for a brand new Sci-Fi IP? Wouldnt be surprised if it is First Person, if so HOT FUCKING DAMN

Im always up for some sci-fi so I hope its true.

 

[onQ123]

Spark man, like Mario with a star.

 

[VFXVeteran]

For PS5 or for Xbox Series X?

PS5

 

[V4skunk]

Cell/Xenon also utilized existing IBM-derived tech (PowerPC/PPE CPU core).

What's your point?

That AMD let Sony use AMD's tech to customise a gpu with 8 ACE units instead of having 2.

 

[onQ123]

is 16gb enough?

 

[Negotiator]

That AMD let Sony use AMD's tech to customise a gpu with 8 ACE units instead of having 2.

So according to your logic, AMD is going to let MS customize an RDNA2 GPU to have Tier 2 instead of Tier 1 VRS and MS is going to make this an XBOX exclusive hardware feature? Is that correct?

 

[Gamernyc78]

Just like Sony has their own HLSL variant (PSSL). What's the difference with VRS?

Well, the difference is that Sony never overhypes their own API implementation.

I understand why MS always does that (promoting their Windows ecosystem), what I don't understand is why AMD would deliberately gimp their PC RDNA2 GPUs with Tier 1 VRS.

Imagine how ridiculous this would be... RX 5800/5900 cards having Tier 1, while XBOX has a Tier 2 12TF GPU.

Even Sony didn't make 8 ACEs (their own customization) exclusive to PS4. AMD was freely allowed to adopt it in GCN 1.1 cards.

I don't get why we must have these double standards.

This...... For every software trick or implementation Sony will have their version tht stacks up. Come on homies Sony doesn't slack thy got this.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Im always up for some sci-fi so I hope its true.

Supposedly starlight

 

[TheStruggler]

Im always up for some sci-fi so I hope its true.

I heard rumors you play as two protagonists POTENTIALLY. One is a Scientist and the other is an Escaped Convict from prison. Not sure, but from what I have heard and read it is Sci-Fi

 

[eastwood333]

Console war aside, I'm glad Sony is supporting devs who definitely have the programming chops but may have not been very successful in the past. Guerilla devs were not exactly hitting it out of the park until HZD came.

He seems very appreciative of Sony for him to trumpet this early that PS5 has the advantage. We'll see.

I'm very much looking forward to their work though. Can't wait for the games to be shown.

Advantage by way of artstyle.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Hype.

Captured on a XSX @ 24FPS. Not good enough for real-time.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Console war aside, I'm glad Sony is supporting devs who definitely have the programming chops but may have not been very successful in the past. Guerilla devs were not exactly hitting it out of the park until HZD came.

He seems very appreciative of Sony for him to trumpet this early that PS5 has the advantage. We'll see.

I'm very much looking forward to their work though. Can't wait for the games to be shown.

I mean all bs aside Sony first party devs always pass tht graphical benchmark amongst themselves. Their games usually look sublime between Naughty Dog, Sony Santamonica, Guerilla and Sucker punch, insomniac is also in tht convo. Ps3 had uncharted 2, killzone 2 and Gow 3 tht no one could touch graphically. Ps4 was no different.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hype.

Captured on a XSX @ 24FPS. Not good enough for real-time.

24FPS? What'd they do, press play on the Blu-ray disc?

 

[eastwood333]

I mean all bs aside Sony first party devs always pass tht graphical benchmark amongst themselves. Their games usually look sublime between Naughty Dog, Sony Santamonica, Guerilla and Sucker punch, insomniac is also in tht convo. Ps3 had uncharted 2, killzone 2 and Gow 3 tht no one could touch graphically. Ps4 was no different.

You shouuld play Crysis 2,Read Dead Redemption,Rage,Witcher 2 on Xbox 360.