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Call of the Sea on Xbox Series X: The First 18 Minutes - IGN

Firewatch fans, that voice may sound familiar...

www.ign.com

 

[MasterCornholio]

I don't think it's accurate to describe the PS5's APU in terms of game clock and boost clock, we would have known already if that was the case. The PS5 also has a lower number of compute units compared to the 6800 and 6900, also more interesting when you think about the variable frequencies and "race to idle" that's in the APU.

Although the fact that the discreet GPU's can stick to 2+ Ghz as the game clock considering the number of compute units they have should say enough for what the PS5 is capable of.

Not to mention Sonys cooling solution might allow their GPU to have a higher "game clock". Especially with less CUs to boot.

 

[Riky]

Sorry of you dont understand technical writing, if you dont why say what you did if you dont understand what your saying ?

All of the above, PC parts at 1.9 Ghz there will be a real reason Navi21 is at 1.9 Ghz, a proper engineering reason not becasue we felt like it as that is just rubbish IMO. Soon we will know exactly why.

Also your sony comment will be put into perspective with NAVI 22, 2.23 Ghz is not clocking higher, its clocking same or lower than the equivalent PC part.

9 days and we will know the truth..

Tick Tock, times up, what truth did we learn?

 

[Gudji]

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Guys I though today was when we'd learn that Sony invented RDNA 2 and had so much exclusive tech that was going to blow everyone out of the water? What happened?

There was no mention of geometry engine or cache scrubers in this presentation. So, Sony has exclusive Features. The clocks of AMD GPUs also proved that Sony's GPU was not overclocked in the last minutes.
AMD GPUs are multiples of 40 CUs which are similar to Sony's GPU.

So this presentation support everything we were discussing for last 7 months. PS5 gpu is RDNA2 + extra features

 

[kyliethicc]

This game is fuuuuuuuuuuuuccked.

 

[Lysandros]

I think it has 8 MB L2 cache, which is rather small for a PC discrete GPU.

Consoles are power constrained and cost constrained. Limited die space. Budgets.

XSX has 5mb of GPU L2 cache.

 

[sircaw]

it's great that so many people are going to experience it, imagine all the kids that get to play it, There are going to be massive smiles everywhere.

This is an ace move by Sony, and when i get my Ps5 i am going to platinum this and put it proudly next to my bloodborne and god of war plats.

 

[kyliethicc]

XSX has 5mb of GPU L2 cache.

Oh ok then maybe its 8 MB L1+L2 cache combined?

I might just be wrong. I was trying to recall it off top of my head

 

[IntentionalPun]

Good lord this game is doomed lol

 

[itsnotme]

Yeah... Halo is finished no hope left in me anymore

 

[zubairali2]

halo infinite development hell

 

[Doncabesa]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

 

[sircaw]

Tick Tock, times up, what truth did we learn?

We learned that AMD put out a killer pc card,

Now let's see if sony gets to talk about all the advancements they did in their console, the coherency cores, cache scrubbers and any other goodies, you know all that jazz.

As many people have been saying, they had to probably wait for AMD to go first in their launch.

 

[Metroiddarks]

There was no mention of geometry engine or cache scrubers in this presentation. So, Sony has exclusive Features. The clocks of AMD GPUs also proved that Sony's GPU was not overclocked in the last minutes.
AMD GPUs are multiples of 40 CUs which are similar to Sony's GPU.

So this presentation support everything we were discussing for last 7 months. PS5 gpu is RDNA2 + extra features

We already know cache scrubber is unique for PS5, regarding the geometry engine exists in RDNA 1 the difference looks like
Sony customize that part.

Both consoles are RDNA 2 customized.

 

[Lysandros]

Oh ok then maybe its 8 MB L1+L2 cache combined?

I might just be wrong. I was trying to recall it off top of my head

The size of total L1 cache is 512kb (4x128kb) for RDNA1, i doubt that they increased it that much for XSX.

 

[sinnergy]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

I just read it isn’t because it’s clocked lower ...

 

[ToadMan]

What happened to him?

Thread banned.

It’ll come to us all soon though...

today was the day you saw pretty much all RDNA 2 lineup clocked above 2 GHz while the xsx is sitting at 1.8ish... so much for the PS5 "overclocking" narrative right? What happened?

Power happened.

Xsex was measured for Dirt 5 using less than half the power of the 6800XT. Probably about half the power of the vanilla 6800.

So it comes back to ... you guessed it, Smartshift. PS5 will be using around the same power as the Xsex I’d say - maybe 10% more.

The clocks are higher, the power will have to be cleverly managed...

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

So I'd 2.23GHz PS5s game clock or boost clock? If it's the boost clock then the game clock will probably be around 2GHz.

Anyone know he TFs for the PS5 at 2GHz? Just speculating here.

fuck the tflops, that is an irrelevant metric really. it's like looking at the maximum speed limit on your car's dashboard and then go driving it in the city...

 

[Sealord of Braavos]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

BOOM.

 

[Mr Moose]

Takes almost 5 hours on PS4.

 

[LivingD3AD]

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

There isn't any GPU they showed that had sustained clocks higher than 2.04Ghz, why should we expect 2.23Ghz to be sustained, again?

are you also having problems with your vision?

 

[jose4gg]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

Xbox Series X|S are the only next-generation consoles with full hardware support for all the RDNA 2 capabilities AMD showcased today.

WOW...

 

[xacto]

This game is fuuuuuuuuuuuuccked.

 

[Codexer]

 

[RogueHALLINAN]

"The long-term strategic relationship between Xbox and AMD over the past 15 years, beginning with the Xbox 360, is at the heart of the Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S. With the upcoming launch of the Xbox Series X|S on November 10, together we are ushering in the next generation of gaming delivering a level of power, performance and compatibility never before seen in console gaming, powered by AMD’s latest “Zen 2” and RDNA 2 architectures. Xbox Series X|S are the only next-generation consoles with full hardware support for all the RDNA 2 capabilities AMD showcased today. "

Full statement

 

[Nikana]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

 

[onesvenus]

AMD GPUs are multiples of 40 CUs which are similar to Sony's GPU.

Are the 72 CUs found in the Radeon 6800Xt multiple of 40?
And the 60 in Radeon 6800?

 

[IntentionalPun]

This RDNA 2 nonsense has always been stupid.

The games will do the talking.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

Lmao it's literally the same stuff Microsoft have been parroting about the Series X for the past year.

 

[Dabaus]

With Halo probably delayed til 20200, does micorosoft have ANYTHING launching in 2021?

 

[Mr Moose]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

I'm shocked Sony won't be using DirectX 12 U.

 

[PSX]

 

[Riky]

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

well, there it is.

Tick Tock indeed

 

[IntentionalPun]

With Halo probably delayed til 20200, does micorosoft have ANYTHING launching in 2021?

Probably?

They just bought a rather large publisher.

 

[RookX22]

Is xbox the only full rdna 2 consoles since ps5 has some rdna 3...?

 

[sinnergy]

I'm shocked Sony won't be using DirectX 12 U.

Hardware features ... there are lots of articles to read which explain what hardware features support means ..

what this means is PS5 seems to be missing support for those standard RDNA 2 hardware features , probably VRS and Mesh shading. Sony probably use some own implementations. Doesn’t need to be a bad thing .

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I stand corrected

 

[jose4gg]

- Sony released the mobile app trailer after the AMD.
- MS a blog post claiming to be the only next-gen consoles to fully support RDN2.

That is interesting at least.

 

[Handy Fake]

It's not a surprise, although I think it's a bit of marketing spin.
Xbox will probably need the full featureset of RDNA2 with it's server set up while Sony cut some unneeded features out and made customisations. I think that was mooted months ago.

 

[Dibils2k]

i havent really cared or understood this RDNA 2 thing but it being on xbox only... is this gonna destroy this forum/thread?

 

[ToadMan]

No reason it would be revealed at an AMD event focused and trying to sell on their discreet GPU's, although the higher clocks as well as the 256 bit memory bus does add credence.

Although I do find it hilarious how AMD's cards already have ray tracing ready for a number of games even though they're using the same DirextX 12 API as Series X.

Yeah that was interesting. There wasn’t any tip about the RT hardware and using the TMUs.

But the clock gate granularity ... perhaps refers to the variable clock per CU/RT rumour.

 

[Nikana]

Not saying this isnt true but this is a fan ran account is it not?

If Xbox was the only console with full fat RDNA2 every single official Xbox account would be hammering that point home right now

I could very well be wrong

No. Xbox Wire is official.

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

 

[Mr Moose]

Hardware features ... there are lots of articles to read which explain what hardware features support means ..

AMD’s latest RDNA 2 architecture delivers a significant increase in performance and efficiency over previous architectures, as well as adding new hardware acceleration capabilities including hardware accelerated DirectX Raytracing

Today, we are introducing a feature to DirectX 12 that will bridge the gap between the rasterization techniques employed by games today, and the full 3D effects of tomorrow. This feature is DirectX Raytracing.

Announcing Microsoft DirectX Raytracing! - DirectX Developer Blog

If you just want to see what DirectX Raytracing can do for gaming, check out the videos from Epic, Futuremark and EA, SEED. To learn about the magic behind the curtain, keep reading. 3D Graphics is a Lie For the last thirty years,

devblogs.microsoft.com

 

[Andodalf]

Not saying this isnt true but this is a fan ran account is it not?

If Xbox was the only console with full fat RDNA2 every single official Xbox account would be hammering that point home right now

I could very well be wrong

Yes, but it links to a real article from Xbox which says that it is the only console to fully support RDNA 2.0 as shown today

 

[Zheph]

I'm shocked Sony won't be using DirectX 12 U.

You bet RDNA 0.5 at best

 

[Gudji]

Not saying this isnt true but this is a fan ran account is it not?

If Xbox was the only console with full fat RDNA2 every single official Xbox account would be hammering that point home right now

I could very well be wrong

They're not saying it's the only full RDNA2 console. It's PR, it's just about the fluff stuff they talked about multiple times by now: VRS, mesh shaders, direct storage.
It's just software and sony always used proprietary APIs, which are usually much better performance than MS stuff.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The text is taken from the main Xbox blog post, so it’s a fair enough headline.

.

phil retweeted so must be

No. Xbox Wire is official.

A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

news.xbox.com

Yes, but it links to a real article from Xbox which says that it is the only console to fully support RDNA 2.0 as shown today

Yup my reply was wrong I stand corrected my bad

 

[xacto]

This RDNA 2 nonsense has always been stupid.

The games will do the talking.

What games