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B_Boss
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Gah...if only I could get an updated 2.1 Sony Proforma HDMI Cable. Its what I've been using for a few years now. I love the design and angled connector:
Well sure but that wouldn't really be newsworthy would it? Sounds like "new" news lol.
Riky
$MSFT
Barakov
Member
Videos like this are cool but I don’t watch them.
I don’t want too much of the special magic revealed.
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⚙The insides from what I seen of pictures though are beastly.
Ptarmiganx2
Member
You only need one as long as she has hot friends and you have a little game.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
You only need one as long as she has hot friends and you have a little game.
Fools
Just have them swear obedience
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Bumped across this on an article, was there any updated on this?Funnily enough, an activision guy posting about Geometry engine in ps5 "where VRS comes into play"
So according to the art lead of activsion, Ps5 does have VRS
Over the next few months we should be seeing more and more developers talk about this stuff openly now that the NDA's are lifting.
QuantumZebra
Member
LOL! Now it should be the dry season though, most of the mountains are yellowish. A panoramic photo from last September by my DJI Mavic Air 2.
That looks amazing
jasondefaoite
Member
I definitely need to read into the whole chroma, 4:4:4 HDR and bit rate topic...
For a normal consumer this is all to complicated
I thought HDMI 2.1 is one standard, just pick your preferred resolution, Hz and start playing, like on PC or old days... Not something with billions of different options, which even do not work correctly depending on console and TV..
Chroma Subsampling: 4:4:4 vs 4:2:2 vs 4:2:0
What is Chroma Subsampling and where is this visible? Chroma subsampling is a type of compression that reduces the color information in a signal in favor of luminance data.
www.rtings.com
MatrixReloaded101
Member
I want to upgrade my Samsung 4ktv to an LG CX but I am going to wait because I still think it’s too early to get a new TV right now just get HDMI 2.1.
ethomaz
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
Wait next year TVs... HDMI 2.1 in LG TV still has some issues.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Thanks for the heads up.
I see so many articles that keep pushing the LG CX for next gen gaming and I would prefer more options so it might be best to wait it out.
Md Ray
Member
52 CUs at 1725 MHz.
K bye.
44 CUs at 1705 MHz.
K bye.
Lmao. I was so off with that 44 CU one. And so close with 52 CU one back in Jan.
And even got thread banned for one of them it's hilarious looking back at it. 
ArcaneNLSC
Member
Sounds fun. Everyone loves a good sinkhole
That's no sink hole that's Kylie Jenner's stink hole. Sorry
kyliethicc
farmerboy
Member
To the best thread on GAF, and all those who have made it entertaining and informative
And to the fallen, banned or thread privileges revoked
And to the xbox aficionados, who I begrudgingly love but whose delusion knows no bounds
Now carry on entertaining me. I'm enjoying this.
Edit: Is there any way at all to see a wall of shame post count?
Mod of War
pretty please?
And to the fallen, banned or thread privileges revoked
And to the xbox aficionados, who I begrudgingly love but whose delusion knows no bounds
Now carry on entertaining me. I'm enjoying this.
Edit: Is there any way at all to see a wall of shame post count?
Mod of War
pretty please?
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Setsuna Mudou
Member
I did indeed, used the Logitech G430 I had on my ps4. Might try the higher end HyperX ones I use on pc, but honestly, this was so good I don't feel the need to change
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Is this real?
kyliethicc
Member
Never die ye legendary thread Knack 3 is yet to come
MasterCornholio
Member
We will see how much of an impact this will have on the games. Kind of strange how the hardware was finished a long time ago.
LivingD3AD
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
I just checked his profile and found out he is a writer for XboxERA, should've done that before posting the tweet, lol.Bullshit
this guy is an xbox fanboy and the one who said this:
Probably the "dev in their discord" is that Kirby dude.
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Everytime I see anything about Forbidden I got excitation and that PSone feeling.
KZ2 Radec Academy gamer.
LivingD3AD
Member
According to their discord game dev (dude trust me), PS5 at it’s full CPU workload is a 5tflops console lmao
SSfox
Member
This thread need to keep going, as Xbox tools aren't ready yet from what i've heard from Xbox fanboys.
Saberus
Member
I'm going to wait.. you will get better TV with HDMI 2.1 issues worked out and most likely cheaper.. give you opportunity to go 65 or 77
thurnishaleygw
Member
Yeah, we need to keep this thread alive until those Xbox tools are ready.
Ready to accept that the PS5 is the superior console, you tools.
Messing with y'all, I love you guys. Power your dreams, velocity architecture, live long and prosper and all that.
DemonCleaner
Member
Gah...if only I could get an updated 2.1 Sony Proforma HDMI Cable. Its what I've been using for a few years now. I love the design and angled connector:
yeah i could really use one of those too
marvifrom
Member
Riky
$MSFT
geordiemp
Member
Yes its real but that is for final certification, so again out of context. Devs also had good tools for over 12 months.
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assurdum
Banned
Man it's disgusting. A lot of people buying ps5 just to resell it at crazy prices. eBay is full of this shit meanwhile we can't find a single ps5 even in the launch digitally. Companies should try something to avoid such shit show . Or at least give the priority to the fidelity customer indeed to place stock to everyone.
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ethomaz
Banned
Just to remember SmartShift profiles are only used in DevKitsBullshit
this guy is an xbox fanboy and the one who said this:
Retail machines do auto based in workload.
In any case I don’t believe these clocks he posted.
If these clocks were true games should be running way bad with framerate and we are sawing games doing the opposite.
Or maybe the Xbox fans are trying to say PS5 is bearing Xbox running at 1.2-1.8Ghz GPU and 2.0-3.2Ghz CPU lol
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geordiemp
Member
OK, I am being nice, Watch this timestamped
It is dirt developer showing latest DX12 VRS Tier 2 on the game on PC, so the new SDK that uses the new features is fully operational and optimised on Dirt on PC.
So people saying only old SDK, which would not do VRS tier 2 ..................and here we have a developer showing a completed game using it on 6800 XT. Nothing more needs to be said.
And to cheer you up
Riky
, this racing game splats 1/3 of the screen as VRS to help performance (as racing games can get away with this), so it may help XSX in the head to head later today, you might get a win or close to it. Get your gloating ready, but dont get carried away, its a racing game with almost half the screen is using lower shader resolution in effect, watch dogs will not be so kind.
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ethomaz
Banned
A bit of context.
YouTube is taking too much time to process the 4k version of the video... like days or even weeks (he said some videos from Nov 12 doesn’t have 4k processed yet).
So he believes people finds the game bad because the YouTube 1080p shows a really bad game due the low video quality.
Jé posted two pictures... one from what YouTube shows in 1080p and another with how it looks on his capture.
To be fair in both pics the game looks bad.
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Riky
$MSFT
OK, I am being nice, Watch this timestamped
It is dirt developer showing latest DX12 VRS Tier 2 on the game on PC, so the new SDK that uses the new features is fully operational and optimised on Dirt on PC.
So people saying only old SDK, which would not do VRS tier 2 ..................and here we have a developer showing a completed game using it on 6800 XT. Nothing more needs to be said.
And to cheer you up
Get your gloating ready, but dont get carried away, its a racing game with 1/3 of the screen using same shading, watch dogs will not be so kind.
You damage controlling now
We've already seen it on Gears 5, however other engines and games like the Ubisoft titles obviously don't use it. So some engines and some developers might have been able to start using RDNA2 features and some haven't due to their engines. This will improve over time.
The Dirt 5 guy said the tools " were coming in hot", the game got a 6gb patch the day before Series X release. They also have a marketing deal with AMD and Microsoft so it make sense they would be using these features.
As for " gloating" not really my style, I know how this will end and a couple of poor Ubisoft ports isn't going to change the overall narrative in say 5 years time. When we start seeing next gen only games pushing the machines fully we will revisit our conversations I'm sure, at the moment I've got too many games to play on my new Series X and S
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aclar00
Member
Monoprice sells angle adapters, just dont know the specs on them.
geordiemp
Member
You damage controlling now
We've already seen it on Gears 5, however other engines and games like the Ubisoft titles obviously don't use it. So some engines and some developers might have been able to start using RDNA2 features and some haven't due to their engines. This will improve over time.
The Dirt 5 guy said the tools " we're coming in hot" they also have a marketing deal with AMD and Microsoft so it make sense they would be using these features.
As for " gloating" not really my style, I know how this will end and a couple of poor Ubisoft ports isn't going to change the overall narrative in say 5 years time. When we start seeing next gen only games pushing the machines fully we will revisit our conversations I'm sure, at the moment I've got too many games to play on my new Series X and S
Not in any damage control. its not coming in hot when a game is finished using all the new features lol.
VRS works fine when your in constant movement, racing games, VRS would be more obvious and loosing quality in a game like Valhalla.
Even halo had VRS employed so it was also using 2x 1 tier 2, but VRS can be seen more easily when not in constant motion.
I am more interested to see what VRS or solution is used on ps5 to be clear on a title that splashes VRS everywhere on the moving screen. I expect Sony to only use their version for VR, but lets see.
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Riky
$MSFT
Not in any damage control. its not coming in hot when a game is finished using all the new features lol.
VRS works fine when your in constant movement, racing games, VRS would be more obvious and loosing quality in a game like Valhalla.
Even halo had VRS employed so it was also using 2x 1 tier 2, but VRS can be seen more easily when not in constant motion.
Dirt5 had a massive 6gb patch the day before release to fix a load of issues including terrible screen tearing, just like Valhalla. It had another 3gb performance patch two days ago.
So the game has literally just been finished, just after launch.
As for Halo, well it's first party, we don't know what PC that was running on. My point is a lot of third parties have their last gen engines like Ubisoft, Capcom and Activision and will not have had time to start utilising the RDNA2 hardware yet. It's just a simple upres and framerate boost scenario due to new platforms, up to eight versions and Pandemic problems.
Things will get a lot better over the next 24 months.
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geordiemp
Member
Watch the video I posted. All games get last minute patches to fine tune, water is wet.
DX12U GDK was fine for pC. Done and dusted as shown in the video as it was amd sponsored and the latest GDK features like VRS Tier 2 were all included in the game build as part of the engine, so its not last minute lol.
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Nickolaidas
Member
this guy is an xbox fanboy and the one who said this:
That smug smile more than warrants a punch in the jaw.
Riky
$MSFT
Ive already explained to you why I think Dirt 5 and the likes of Ubisoft are different. I said they finished the game last minute not implemented RDNA2 features last minute, if you played Dirt 5 unpatched like I did you can see what a state it was in just a week ago.
DemonCleaner
Member
cheers man. i already ordered those. my LG E9 has a cable "hatch" to provide a clean looking back. sadly it wont fit with the angle adapter installed.
ethomaz
Banned
GDK is being used in most optimized games on Xbox Series X... it is the most mature tool and basically only few optimized old games are using XDK.
You can check on Xbox Series X which game is using GDK or XDK.
Beyond3D made even a list today.
onedrive.live.com
forum.beyond3d.com
You can check on Xbox Series X which game is using GDK or XDK.
Beyond3D made even a list today.
Xbox Series Optimized Titles.xlsx
onedrive.live.com
Current Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
The Touryst is probably also developed on the XDK. All the games that are Gen9Aware seem to be able to run from an external HDD.
forum.beyond3d.com
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geordiemp
Member
Using VRS tier 2 early on in the dev cycle and being optimised for 6800 XT is clear as daylight and shows GDK was up and rnning nicely.
Fine tuning for the XSX version for performance tweaks is a different discussion and can exist with the above statement.
geordiemp
Member
GDK is being used in most optimized games on Xbox Series X... it is the most mature tool and basically only few optimized old games are using XDK.
You can check on Xbox Series X which game is using GDK or XDK.
Beyond3D made even a list today.
Xbox Series Optimized Titles.xlsx
Current Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
The Touryst is probably also developed on the XDK. All the games that are Gen9Aware seem to be able to run from an external HDD.
| Forza Horizon 4 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Apex Legends | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Call Of Duty Warzone | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Ori and the Will of the Wisps | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Halo Master Chief Collection | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Watch Dogs: Legion | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Dirt 5 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Devil May Cry V: Special Edition | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Control Special Edition | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Assassin's Creed Valhalla | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Grounded | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Tetris Effect: Connected | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| The Touryust | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Call of the Sea | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Gears of War 5 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| The Medium | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Gonner2 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Sea Of Thieves | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Borderlands 3 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Enlisted | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold war | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| CrossCode | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Cyberpunk 2077 | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Concept Destruction | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Dead by Daylight | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Far Cry 6 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Hitman 3 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Jydge | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| King Oddball | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Man Eater | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Mortal Kombat 11 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| NBA2K21 | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| No Man's Sky | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Observer: System Redux | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Fortnite | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Fights in Tight Spaces | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| The Falconeer | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Overcooked! All you can Eat | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Phantasy Star Online 2 | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Planet Coaster: Console Edition | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| WRC 9 FIA World Rally Championship | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Yakuza: Like a Dragon | GDK; Gen: Scarlett | XboxGen9 |
| Rogue Company | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Ark Survival Evolved | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| We Happy Few | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Rocket League | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
| Star Wars Squadrons | XDK;Gen: Durango | XboxOneGen9Aware |
Slashinghook
Neo Member
GDK is being used in most optimized games on Xbox Series X... it is the most mature tool and basically only few optimized old games are using XDK.
You can check on Xbox Series X which game is using GDK or XDK.
Beyond3D made even a list today.
Xbox Series Optimized Titles.xlsx
Current Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
The Touryst is probably also developed on the XDK. All the games that are Gen9Aware seem to be able to run from an external HDD.
That’s not how Software development works at all. Not even close. And no, none of these are fully optimized for XSX.
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