dimaveshkin
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Is there any solution for the coil whine for PS5? Mine is getting too obnoxious in the silent scenes.
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thelastword
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No doubt, crazy thing is, we can expect all these Bethesda games to be better on PS5 too unless they gimp the PS5 versions.....I can definitely see Doom Eternal running at 120Hz locked on PS5 vs dips on Series X and I can see the 60fps mode having better effects and better texture quality, even the RT could be better too. So it's going to be crazy......If AC is any indication, Skyrim should love PlayStation 5, so should Fallout as long as they upgrade that engine...but if they are going for parite and gimpite on the PS5, then we won't see the true potential in these games...
But yes, first party should be bonkers.....Can't wait to see how much GT7 has improved, can't wait to see GOD of War, Killzone MP and UC5.....Silent Hill and MGS Remake should be earth shattering as well...
Riky
$MSFT
Hawking Radiation
Member
I can take care of that for you. No charge. Just sent you my address. You pop in that in express mail to me and I'll have it sorted in no time.
You don't have to worry about a thing.
Aceofspades
Banned
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dimaveshkin
Member
That's funny for sure, still doesn't fix my issue tho.
thelastword
Banned
When can we expect the tools to be ready......I mean MS has the best tools and API in the industry, should be bonkers when it roosts.....Which it is, this isn't about being beaten by PlayStation its about 3rd party games vastly under performing to the hardware potential. It's a tools thing, once it's ironed out it'll all become apparent
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
This is after the patch Ubi released. Before patch, PS5 didn’t have the frame drops. Before Patch, XSX was worse than PS5. Let’s not try to misrepresent that Ubisoft screwed the pooch on the initial code on one console and screwed the code up again on the patch.
assurdum
Banned
If it's that's simple why PS3 BC is not a thing on PS5? And you haven't answered to my true question. If a platform can handle easily BC for a very different hardware why should vastly outperform in multiplat crossgen development? Surely it can improve but don't believe to the narrative of "miracles working in progress" for the future.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Which it is, this isn't about being beaten by PlayStation its about 3rd party games vastly under performing to the hardware potential. It's a tools thing, once it's ironed out it'll all become apparent
I'm not sure if there's a huge delta between the two systems. If there was then it would be already apparent even with issues with the tools. I honestly don't see tools activating a 50% delta at this point.
itsnotme
Member
Nice screen shot but at the end of the day is it or is it not still 59.9 FPS at 1080p on the Series X and 59.6 FPS at a higher resolution?
smallpotatosan
Member
no fix really. You need to return and exchange
Bo_Hazem
Banned
MilkyJoe
Member
2 flop plus higher memory bandwidth, there's deffo something wrong
MilkyJoe
Member
I thought you'd killed yourself. You better stock up on panadol and whisky, for when those tools are sorted
MasterCornholio
Member
Maybe they are having trouble keeping the CUs fed? There's alot more to a console than just terafloops and memory bandwidth.
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Raoul_Duke
Member
Split ram and 52 starving CUs, that’s what’s wrong.
Xboners live under the illusion that every piece of tech perform at their thoretical specs, maybe you should google what theoretical means first.
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Insane Metal
Member
I don't think that's the case but PS5's CPU certainly seems to be pushing more than XSX's CPU. Maybe the unified cache rumor is real.
MasterCornholio
Member
They do have more CUs per shader array than Sony does. However having more cache usually fixes this. What I'm not sure is what amount is needed for that. Cache does take up space on the die so that could be a reason why they didn't choose to put more into it.
Just my thoughts.
Edit: We really need that die breakdown though.
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Riky
$MSFT
It's 55fps says so right there.
Insane Metal
Member
Come on Riky he's talking about the average. you know that
Riky
$MSFT
Cross gen launch games that's all it is, Valhalla now runs better on Xbox, Dirt 5 has a bug in 120hz mode but doesn't have the framerate plummet like PS5 version, Call Of Duty doesn't have the framerate plummets on set pieces like PS5, DMC5 runs better on Xbox on 3 out of 4 modes, Xbox Watch Dogs can reflect puddles. It's actually just a mixed bag at the moment, the launch version of Valhalla was the main problem but that's been corrected quickly to a degree.
Main point is these are all last gen engine games, we'll find out a lot more as we get actual next games on next gen engines.
Riky
$MSFT
Come on Riky he's talking about the average. you know that
The average resolution is 1080p on Xbox?
You can't have it both ways, saying the Xbox version is 1080p when it's only for a few seconds is the same as saying the PS5 version runs at 51fps when it only happens for a few seconds.
Insane Metal
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Neo Blaster
Member
To think MS were at the top of the gaming market on the pre-Kinect Xbox 360 era...
Sony's arrogant moment effects ended when they started launching great exclusives for PS3.
MS are still feeling theirs till today, two generations later.
Md Ray
Member
Nope. 142.72 Gpix/s fillrate and 8.92 Gtri/s triangle output (rasterization) vs 116 Gpix/s and 7.3 Gtri/s on XSX.
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Md Ray
Member
PS5 is pushing higher res.
LiquidRex
Member
I think the PS5 CPU has similar Caching to that of Zen 3
Bo_Hazem
Banned
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
nah. I don't see it. Maybe slim with more ssd space. But Pro is unlikely. CPU is top of the line. Not much of an upgrade can be done there... maybe some gpuPS5 Pro.
Riky
$MSFT
With framerate drops and tearing, they need to drop the Res to reach Xbox performance.
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Three Jackdaws
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This! The Frosbite engine is incredible and DICE have helped pioneer graphics technologies the same way EPIC and Unreal Engine has. They also pushed heavily the use of compute shaders and more compute based graphics workloads, it's one of the reasons why Battlefield 3 which was a visually stunning game at it's time ran incredibly well on the PS3 Cell Processor. DICE also influenced AMD's GCN architecture however Nvida lacked the same attention to this functionality which lead to a lot of GCN's potential being underused. LeviathanGamer has done a great thread on this and more in-depth which I shared already.
"You should assume the power of those consoles is much more than existing consoles. We can do a lot more. You will start to see things over the next couple of years that will blow people's minds," EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said in the earnings call.
This was from their tech demo which they released a while back, they also showed some destruction and smoke simulations which looked insane! They already announced that Battlefield 6 will be exclusives PC, PS5 and Series X which is great news and gives me confidence they'll deliver a visually stunning game and designed around the SSD's.
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Sinthor
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PS5 has better and faster I/O pipelines. XSX memory is a split configuration, don't forget. That is largely why we're seeing what we are, IMHO. Also, don't forget that even that "2 flop" advantage you mentioned, is only 18% difference. With PS4 and XB1 there was 40% and it took Digital Foundry analysis videos and blow ups to show the differences there. So even if XSX was posting everything exactly 18% faster...you wouldn't be able to tell.
LiquidRex
Member
This! The Frosbite engine is incredible and DICE have helped pioneer graphics technologies the same way EPIC and Unreal Engine has. They also pushed heavily the use of compute shaders and more compute based graphics workloads, it's one of the reasons why Battlefield 3 which was a visually stunning game at it's time ran incredibly well on the PS3 Cell Processor. DICE also influenced AMD's GCN architecture however Nvida lacked the same attention to this functionality which lead to a lot of GCN's potential being underused. LeviathanGamer has done a great thread on this and more in-depth which I shared already.
"You should assume the power of those consoles is much more than existing consoles. We can do a lot more. You will start to see things over the next couple of years that will blow people's minds," EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said in the earnings call.
This was from their tech demo which they released a while back, they also showed some destruction and smoke simulations which looked insane! They already announced that Battlefield 6 will be exclusives PC, PS5 and Series X which is great news and gives me confidence they'll deliver a visually stunning game and designed around the SSD's.
This is what I'm looking forward to seeing in next gen titles, now that CPU power won't be so much of an issue.
Duchess
Member
Digital Foundry have a new AC:V video up:
The short of it is that the XSX's resolution now bottoms out at a lower bound to deal with the performance issues and tearing. The PS5 version appears unchanged (so, it's operating at a higher res). DF said they didn't experience the insane frame rate problems that others are reporting with the PS5 patch.
The short of it is that the XSX's resolution now bottoms out at a lower bound to deal with the performance issues and tearing. The PS5 version appears unchanged (so, it's operating at a higher res). DF said they didn't experience the insane frame rate problems that others are reporting with the PS5 patch.
You need check if it is actually really coil-whine or just a sticker rubbing against the fan
Loud PS5 Fan Noise Caused By A Sticker In The Console
A loose label was mistaken for a broken PS5 fan.
screenrant.com
THEAP99
had this issue should check if it's just a stupid sticker! Lucky if it is then it's an easy fix
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VanSiriusGabriel
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I suppose you are talking about "big" multiplats. There are a lot of small\medium\indies multiplats that vary from good to masterpiece.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
a new ridge racer with raytracing wud be nice
existensmaximum
Member
And they say Xbox doesn't have any exclusives! In your face!
MilkyJoe
Member
Imtjnotu
Member
Sony loses another exclusive of course
SkankHunt420
Neo Member
The moments ps5 drops more than xsx are the moments when ps5 is pushing 1440p and the xbox is just doing 1080p, the update made the dynamic resolution more agressive in the xsx, thats why its performing somewhat on par with the ps5. Ps5 version didnt get an update, they just leave it like it was already and just added the 30fps mode. I believe ps5 could go down to 1100~1200p and solve the drops, but seems like ubisoft its happy with how things are now.
sircaw
Banned
mostly the ubisoft rubbish, happy for indie or small teams and i like to support those works.
Sw0pDiller
Member
The solution is: sell that baby to me!
3liteDragon
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Ptarmiganx2
Member
Efficiency also comes into play. The XSX will likely never hit it’s theoretical max. Looks like the system may have a few bottlenecks.
Sw0pDiller
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MasterCornholio
Member
I don't expect either system to hot their theoretical max. However it could be true that one of the systems can get closer to it than the other.
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