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Dargor
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TBiddy
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And a much faster CPU.
Ar¢tos
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This is so true.
I know this is from a totally different area, but when I was working in a supermarket 20 years ago, One day I was looking at stock of a specific canned tuna in the computer system , that we sold for 1.20€ per can, and entered the distributor order page/menu by mistake and saw that we were buying it at 0.13€ per can.
Ellery
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Do you believe Sony can buy any of those parts in the PS5 that actually matter (RAM/CPU/GPU/STORAGE) for 1/10th of the actual cost consumers pay?
Ar¢tos
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No. It was just an example of how retailers prices can be very different from distributor prices.
Margins are smaller in electronics.
nowhat
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Sure, if the console is made out of tuna.
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
Miss anything good? Haven't checked in for a day
ANIMAL1975
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Mriverz
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Maybe 6~8
If they aiming for 300$ probably all digital. But still would be a amazing price point for those specs. Probably 400 though
Moses85
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Finally 2 duct taped PS3 consoles and a PS4 on top. This will be the true BC
Classicrockfan
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So has the train ride been delayed lol?
Soadi
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vpance
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Shin
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He doesn't have to think, it's a fact.
I've worked in sale all my life and can tell you it's the same here as well, retailers get the biggest cut probably.
They need to pay for man power, storage, etc etc etc, buying directly from the supplier makes all the difference.
Gamernyc78
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bitbydeath
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ethomaz broke it down too how it cant be 60 per RDNA...
Up to 80CU’s is possible, if this rumour is true.
AMD Radeon 5800 XT (big NAVI) to get 80 Compute units?
The rumor mill on graphics cards news stops, today big NAVI is rumored to get 80 CS, that's double the 5700 XT. This would make the chip twice the size of the Radeon RX 5700 XT. Albeit AMD already co...
www.guru3d.com
Gamernyc78
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DJ12
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That wouldn't work for me as it would be 05/02 but as the event will be in America I can let it slide02/05/ 25 / 25 years PlayStation anniversary
It's happening.gif and all that shit...maybe
Ellery
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I know all this. We are talking about something besides groceries here though. Of course buying groceries in bulk for a store is cheaper, because those things expire and have a much lower cost per weight so transportation gets relatively speaking more expensive since you move more volume/weight but for lesser money.
Also anecdotes are not facts.
Also since you are in retail. Can you hook me up with an RTX 2080 Ti? You can get those for 120$ can't you? I mean Nvidia is selling them for 1200$, but I bet your store can just buy them for 120$ and then sell them. Come on man I give you 150$ for it so you can make 30$.
Ellery
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Up to 80CU’s is possible, if this rumour is true.
AMD Radeon 5800 XT (big NAVI) to get 80 Compute units?
The rumor mill on graphics cards news stops, today big NAVI is rumored to get 80 CS, that's double the 5700 XT. This would make the chip twice the size of the Radeon RX 5700 XT. Albeit AMD already co...
That would be insane and pretty cool. I wonder how much power that bad boy draws. Probably 300W TDP easily
Hawking Radiation
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SOONMaybe SOON is the leak.
= S - 20
= O - 15
= O - 15
= N - 14
~ 20 + 15 + 15 + 14
= 64 / 365
= 0.17
~ 17
= 17 February 2020
Shin
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So you know all that yet disputing what exactly?
DJ12
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So ultimately, you are saying because MS made a better choice for the consumer, that makes their cooling system "better"
Not sure that's how it works, but each to their own.
Lets not forget though, that it's basically a copy of the PS3/PS4 fan design with a vapour chamber rather than heat pipes..........
MARTYWOLF
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Hey guys i think we have verification on PS5 AND XBOX SERIES X using phison
Notice the playstation render
That was released yesterday and i have a linkedin user that worked on the scarlett ssd and that verifys it too
" • Designed flagship PS5016-E16, world's first PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD solution, and PS5019-E19, DRAM-less PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD installed in Xbox Scarlett by hosting scrum ceremonies as scrum master. Integrated the development of project standards, procedures and quality objectives across with 2 cross-functional teams"
I wont share linkedin profile as i dont wanna shine light on anyone
Notice the playstation render
That was released yesterday and i have a linkedin user that worked on the scarlett ssd and that verifys it too
" • Designed flagship PS5016-E16, world's first PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD solution, and PS5019-E19, DRAM-less PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD installed in Xbox Scarlett by hosting scrum ceremonies as scrum master. Integrated the development of project standards, procedures and quality objectives across with 2 cross-functional teams"
I wont share linkedin profile as i dont wanna shine light on anyone
Ellery
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The extend of your knowledge involving what Sony has to pay for the parts they put in their console.
If you however are responsible for buying parts in bulk for Sony ready for assembling the PS5 then I do have to apologize.
Soadi
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That choo-choo train betta be ready for us!
The event has to be February. Sony handing destination playstation over to a major distributor. http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020...aystation_trade_event_with_ps5_reveal_looming
Then obviously GDC is in march, which if they dont reveal anything before then it's going to be leak central with all the developers talking next gen at GDC.
The event has to be in february end of.
Then obviously GDC is in march, which if they dont reveal anything before then it's going to be leak central with all the developers talking next gen at GDC.
The event has to be in february end of.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
according to Richard's tests, navi flops are 50% faster than the base x1 flops. and only 25% faster than polaris flops. so while 4 navi tflops might be equivalent to 6 gcn 1.0 tflops, it will only be equal to 5 polaris tflops. less than the x1x.
Maybe 6~8
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Drop my predictions
PS Meeting date revealed - 5th February
PS Meeting - 26th February
PS Meeting Games
- Horizon 2
- Ratchet and Clank Sequel
- Assassin's Creed Sequel
- EA Sports (No footage)
- Activision (No Game Reveal, just talk)
- Capcom New IP (Next Gen RE Engine)
- Team Siren New IP (Open World)
- Arrowhead Games New IP (PSN Digital Game)
- Unreal Tech Demo
- Control PS5 Enhanced Footage (Ray Trace) (Free Patch) (Backwards Compatibility Showcase)
PS Meeting date revealed - 5th February
PS Meeting - 26th February
PS Meeting Games
- Horizon 2
- Ratchet and Clank Sequel
- Assassin's Creed Sequel
- EA Sports (No footage)
- Activision (No Game Reveal, just talk)
- Capcom New IP (Next Gen RE Engine)
- Team Siren New IP (Open World)
- Arrowhead Games New IP (PSN Digital Game)
- Unreal Tech Demo
- Control PS5 Enhanced Footage (Ray Trace) (Free Patch) (Backwards Compatibility Showcase)
Soadi
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Didn't Phison already publicly stated on twitter that they are not suppliying Sony next-gen?
Shin
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MARTYWOLF
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I cant find the tweet so if someone could repost it here that would be awesome, but at a minimum its whats in sxs
ethomaz
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That is an old PS1 controller... the first Dual Shock.
Phison today said they did not have any order from Sony PS5.
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TheStruggler
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Depending who is making it and the quality for me. One thing MS need to step up is the quality of their games.
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ethomaz
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It is no tweet... it is a news article based in Phison reply about the subject.
They only deny supplying PS5.
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THE:MILKMAN
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Isn't the more significant thing with the Phison video it saying consoles plural?
Soadi
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Found it (no tweet, mb).Phison has denied supplying Sony with SSDs for PS5, but have not denied that they are supplying Microsoft, for what thats worth.
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公開資訊觀測站重大訊息公告(8299)群聯-說明媒體109年1月17日之相關報導1.事實發生日:109/01/172.公司名稱:群聯電子股份有限公司3.與公司關係(請輸入本公司或子公司):本公司。4.相互持股比例:無。5.傳播媒體名稱:工商時報。6.報導內容:群聯傳捷報 拿下索尼PS5訂單...7....t.co
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xPikYx
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And you should read what people write properly, Hellblade 2 looks what somebody EXPECT from a next gen game in terms of image quality and quality of the assets. all the rest does not involve the discussion, I speak in mere image quality terms, you can take a screenshot if you like or a CGI movie or a tech demo, I talk about expectation
ethomaz
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You know MS won’t sell only a single console... it is consoles.
THE:MILKMAN
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That (Lockhart) isn't even official yet and I doubt you can argue that is the context of Phison saying consoles here. At least in my opinion.
Shin
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Out of curiosity who said anything about 1/10th beside you and why would I have to buy parts for Sony?
I had a pricelist in my hand (tools for a DIY store) a long time ago, to my surprise we were paying 50% to the supply chain.
They save even more as they buy directly from the manufacturer, if you're looking for proof and have trust issues that's on you.
Either way enough of this.
ethomaz
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Well Phison straight up said they are not supplying Sony PS5... what do you want more?
It is not even a “leak”... it is actually the own company stating that.
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Ellery
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and a friend of mine tells me what his company needs to pay for Car parts and usually they are around 60-80% of the retail price. He is responsible for buying them. That is his job.
How do these anecdotes help us? One guy pays 0.13$ for Tuna and the store sells that tuna for 10x the price. A friend of mine buys a lot of car parts and they only make a super small margin on those
So what does that have to do with Sony and buying SSDs? They are still going to be expensive for them.
But I agree on your last point that it is enough of this.
Gamernyc78
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No one cares about what a slice or cutscene looks like running on a high end pc, we care about actual gameplay. Don't act like we didn't just go through generations of cutscene, cgi smoke and mirrors ran on pcs tht never looked like the games, also live action trailers. Until Sony finally started the habit of live game play demos during conferences which it started with Uncharted 2 and blew ppl away and continued. I'll take tht over fairy tales and fantasies any day.
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MARTYWOLF
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The problem i have with that phison denied supplying for ps5 is that it uses a company called ""groups celectronics co" I cant find any evidence of it being the parent company of phison unless im reading it wrong lol
Bladed Thesis
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I wonder what studio could nail Castlevania in the current suite of MS studios.
Off the top of my head, I can think of none that I would want to handle a re-imaging. Maybe Ninja Theory but I think their DMC outing shows that might be a bad idea. Most are "better served elsewhere" with their own IPs or own art style.
Off the top of my head, I can think of none that I would want to handle a re-imaging. Maybe Ninja Theory but I think their DMC outing shows that might be a bad idea. Most are "better served elsewhere" with their own IPs or own art style.
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