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Lethal01
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How would he "realize" Something that has never been proved past "I heard from some guys"
He has no reason to believe there were any issues.
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Deleted member 775630
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Yeah indeed, but in case of CoD they talked about both consoles of course. Been playing Jedi Fallen Order lately, can't wait for no load times...
SaucyJack
Member
And where is Redmond?
Setsuna Mudou
Member
HAL-01
Member
ive seen a few people using these comparisons to claim the graphics got downgraded, when most of the "downgrades" are simply the addition of volumetric fog around certain scenes making the game look not as crisp on video, with no change to world detail. I would've preferred the environments look as crisp as they can but its an artistic choice.
Only change im peeved by is getting rid of the hero lighting in the pirate world
Nickolaidas
Member
Severe downgrades in some cases, like the mountains where you fly the dragon.
Sinthor
Gold Member
Me too! I'm particularly impressed if third parties, right out of the gate will have these kinds of improvements. Says to me that MS and Sony are making that kind of performance available standard and probably handled by the hardware rather than needing devs to code specifically to take advantage of those features and load times. That's good news if it is the case!
The COD announcement including 120fps was quite surprising as well. I expect though that 120fps will be available via a special "performance mode" that takes out the RT and some of the other eye candy. Would be INSANE if they could pull off 120fps WITH RT and all those features. I think that's a pipe dream for this generation though. On the other hand, I would have bet good money that COD wouldn't be supporting 120fps right up front. I thought the only games we'd probably see at 120fps would be like Tetris or puzzle games, etc.
Happy to be wrong about that!El Pistolero
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
Aren't the reflections on the building in the original demo incorrect? Due to the angle of the building, I can't see how some of the reflections were possible. Seems to have been corrected in the Gamescom version.
Nickolaidas
Member
Really hope that's the case. That shot in the building looks like they removed the reflection altogether.
Fuck off.
jose4gg
Member
I think they were possible but it gives a very weird pop in once the user jumps to the map, so I think they decide to remove at least for now.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
I mean the bridges are below the building and Ratchet and Clank are sliding down at a curved angle. I'm trying to think of a way that the reflections in the first case were even possible. I could be off-base though
TheAssist
Member
Yeah I call bullshit. 10.2 is peak theoretical performance. No console reaches its peak performance, let alone maintain it. That goes for all gpu's. The workloads simply arent designed to even hit that. Also Devs would never say "it didnt reach xx teraflop number". Thats not how they calculate that. If PS5 could occupy its CU's at such a high workload that it reaches constant 9,5 TF, that would be amazing effiency (93%).
SO either these "whispers" are complete horeshit or they are saying the PS5 is an efficiency beast.
I trend towards shit, because of the mentioned reasons.
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Cyborg
Member
There is a quote from a person here (who was checked out by mods) that is saying that PS5 is most efficient console ever.
jonnyp
Member
and Gavin Stevens, Louise Kirby and that Dynamic Voltage Games guy. Real pedigree right there....
Lethal01
Member
What about the cliffs was a downgrade? Just looks like it's color graded differently and has more fog.
bhunachicken
Member
Hmm, this is difficult to tell. In some places things look better and other places slightly worse. Some things, such as structures, have also been moved around. I've spotted structures in the demo that didn't exist in the reveal.
Nickolaidas
Member
Watched the video from my mobile, but it seemed to me like a lot of detail from the rock textures was missing. Also, on many ocassions the colors looked more washed out and less vibrant.
Hopefully they're just experimenting with various lighting palettes. I mean, it makes no sense to remove details from the textures when the framerate was stable in the reveal ...
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
Most changes are clearly cosmetic. The one thing they need to work on is dynamic objects being reflected but that obviously comes with a performance penalty. This is one of the most chaotic games I've seen which is attempting ray tracing so I understand if they aren't able to pull it off. There is a lot of particles and a lot of debris to reflect. Maybe they should go for a lower resolution for reflectivity.
HAL-01
Member
the reflections were physically correct in the original trailer. considering the angle of the slope as your horizon line the streets are technically above it, and would be reflected in such a way.
They're likely working it out so that the reflections dont pop-in the way they do currently
BGs
Industry Professional
Oh, but was it serious? Forgive me. I thought you were joking.
An artistic change is not a Downgrade.
Also keep in mind that the more volumetric effects you insert, the more "flat" everything will seem.
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lepermessiah
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I put money on PS5 maintaining greater average efficiency/peaks.
Snowdonhoffen
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CrysisFreak
Banned
It's lower CU cont will be easier to push for graphics devs obviously...
zaitsu
Banned
Fog and colour pallete.Hope this gif helps
Nickolaidas
Member
Yes!! This helps a lot, actually! Thanks!Hope this gif helps
Yes, now I see it. There is no downgrade of any kind with the textures, but the magenta induced lighting is what 'downgrades' this section of the game. I wonder why they thought it was better that way ... oh, well.
So I just rewatched the Ratchet gameplay demo on my 4K 65" HDR TV and WOW. This is next gen and it's just getting started. Can't even imagine what the teams are going to be able to do in the PS5 lifecycle. We are sure in for a treat and I am so excited for it.
Probably more excited than I have ever been about some video game system and I have experienced them all (getting old....)
Probably more excited than I have ever been about some video game system and I have experienced them all (getting old....)
IllegalLemon
Member
You're doing God's work mate. Let's have some fun with those tweets!!!
The official fanboy drivel from Twitter thread
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Made you all an OT.
Darius87
Member
you need to go check to ophthalmologist asap before it's not to late and also don't forget to wash your mouth.
Nickolaidas
Member
DUUUH LOOKATME, I HAVE A COOL BADASS TV AND YOU POOR SOBS HAVE TO PLAY ON YOUR SWITCH WHILE LIVING IN HUTS ON SOME 3RD WORLD COUNTRY!!!
I happen to love my swamp.
Asshole.
Nickolaidas
Member
I need a new phone.
FranXico
Member
It's no load screens. There is a difference. Load times will be fast enough to do away with the load screens.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Another gif I made earlier of the boat part, the floaty Ratchet is now fixed and it's shadow is properly casted. The gif doesn't show it really well but now the metal behind him is reflecting him and the wood doesn't look as plastic as it did before.
hahaha, yeah that was the entire purpose of the post, not that the game look awesome when viewed on proper hardware....
Dodkrake
Banned
You can see severe downgrades from a horribly compressed video? That's probably the worst 1080p video I've seen in the last year.
I can see some changes to tone and coloration, and a couple of patches of green that are now rock textured, but damn, the rocks in the back look like giant pixels, It's impossible to tell from that one video if that particular section was downgraded, upgraded, copy pasted, whatever.
Nickolaidas
Member
Scroll down the page.
FranXico
Member
Dodkrake
Banned
Hope this gif helps
Nickolaidas
came here to actually say this part was cool. Apologies.And no, it doesn't look downgraded. The tone is definitely different, but if anything, the scene is technically more demanding in the demo, not less.
kensama
Member
sircaw
Banned
what a night last night was, full of laughs and tears.
highlights for me were of course
Rachet and clank.
Games that looked interesting or good to me
Little nightmare 2
The teardown game looked excellent. reminds me of Minecraft 2.0 +lego in one. two people made that. crazy.
Low points.
How long is a piece of string.
I knew something was up when they showed the dirt demo in that make your own arena. Sigh
Dragons age, people talking about games while sitting at a park, staring at a river, looking at a mountain. WTF
Godfall turbo edition. i have seen gifs longer than that. i did like the moth helmet mind you
@nickloadas reaction to Turrrican gameplay, i actually laughed at first then felt bad, sorry bud.
I can't even remember what the new ps5 game is or was meant to be, can some enlighten me plz.
The only one i can think of is that space ship one, living weapon one.
Gonna give the show a 3/10
highlights for me were of course
Rachet and clank.
Games that looked interesting or good to me
Little nightmare 2
The teardown game looked excellent. reminds me of Minecraft 2.0 +lego in one. two people made that. crazy.
Low points.
How long is a piece of string.
I knew something was up when they showed the dirt demo in that make your own arena. Sigh
Dragons age, people talking about games while sitting at a park, staring at a river, looking at a mountain. WTF
Godfall turbo edition. i have seen gifs longer than that. i did like the moth helmet mind you
@nickloadas reaction to Turrrican gameplay, i actually laughed at first then felt bad, sorry bud.
I can't even remember what the new ps5 game is or was meant to be, can some enlighten me plz.
The only one i can think of is that space ship one, living weapon one.
Gonna give the show a 3/10
makaveli60
Member
Guys, even IF they downgrade it... which can happen as they are not familiar with the HW yet (and it will still look astonishing). Just think about what they did with the PS4... I seriously can't imagine what we will get in a couple of years. Just pray that Sony continues to produce these high budget AAA single player games. And buy them, of course
Nickolaidas
Member
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Pretty sure they joined Codemasters as one of their studios.
Unless you mean you want Sony to purchase Codemasters entirely...
Bo_Hazem
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