Bladed Thesis
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Psychonauts doesn't really interest me either. But some of their more recent stuff has been good if somewhat small in scope due to their position as and independent developer at the time.
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B_Boss
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I don’t really recall anyone denying that it was achievable on multiple platforms but of course the debate was “what was the best or most technically appropriate hardware to demo the game on”? Many lost their emotional minds over that one lol. Tim Sweeney was slaying left and right those who were in error in their thinking and regardless of the platform, it was glorious to see sound and critically technical thinking rule the day.
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Dolomite
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Agreed. It's easy to loose your cool when armchair devs who have never heard of an SSD before last yr, partially regurgitate 'lessons by Cerny' to prop up a multiplat engine as if it's full potential is only possible on one platform. It's nuts. If we were watching a PS5 Décima Engine tech Demo, I would have STFU and simply been impressed. The fanboys literally ruined what the demo showed is possible. I went from "damn that looks amazing can't wait for devs to catch up to this level" to "OMFG are we still debating this multiplat ass engine
Great Hair
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AveragePhoenix
Member
GI is good, but Raytraced reflections, that's where it's at.
Metroiddarks
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Well is irrelevant for most of the people, the only thing you can get from this is say the clock is around 1.6 Ghz if is a 4TF rumor is true,
but I thought will be less of 20 Cus in order to save costs.
That demo doesn't have as goal show what UE 5 can do in a GPU with X quantity of TF if this was the reason the demo would have been shown in a RTX 2080 TI ,
I know for you is very hard to understand but in order to optimize your GPU performance for your workload is more than just thrown everything to your SMs
and expect are used to close the 100%.
I know its games are good but its stetics well doesn't attract me but if they continue doing AA games should be a good addition for services like gamepass you know
games will moderate cost and time of dev but with a good level of quality and recognition in the industry.
I highly doubt they are going to use a 320 bit bus for Lockhart. Huge waste of money.
Snowdonhoffen
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I'd expect a 4 TF console (maybe 40 CUs like the Xbox One X?)
With a 3.6 to 3.8 Ghz CPU
10 GB GDDR6 RAM @ 336 GB/s with a 256-bit bus
500 GB SSD @2,4 GB/s or 1 TB SSD @1.2 GB/s
Decompressor and audio chip
No disc drive
That may be enough to sell it at a $299 price point and honestly sounds good. But we'll see how the console ends up being like
BadBreathOfTheWild
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My hunch says Series S still has an optical drive for games.
Metroiddarks
Member
You don't so many CU for reach that raw power is just waste money if you can do it in a easy way with less CU, higher clocks so
your cache and ROPs speed are good enough.
I am interested more in the bandwidth of SSD,RAM and the CPU clock.
Used-ID
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The way the x series s is rumored to be specc'ed makes me think it's a replacement for the x box 1 and 1x. Like a xbox 1x mark2. Basically a cheap box to run current gen games (priced like a xbox 1), but with current hardware to allow it to muddle through next gen games.
Almost like they're trying to do a console refresh of current gen, while labeling it as next-gen
One box of true next gen capabilities (Series X)
One box that's a hardware refresh of the current 1x masquerading as a next-gen box (Lockhart)
Almost like they're trying to do a console refresh of current gen, while labeling it as next-gen
One box of true next gen capabilities (Series X)
One box that's a hardware refresh of the current 1x masquerading as a next-gen box (Lockhart)
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Deleted member 775630
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The only difference with the XSX would be the GPU, is that what makes a console next -gen? The TF's?
jasondefaoite
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In all the generations of consoles, has there been one in the past which had no improvement in the GPU compared with the previous gen? Genuine question, I don't believe so, but I'm not sure.
Dolomite
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???? My quoted response was directed.... toward the person I quoted. Also what? Nothing you mentioned has, quite literally anything to do with the sentiment of my response. At all
That demo doesn't have as goal show what UE 5 can do in a GPU with X quantity of TF if this was the reason the demo would have been shown in a RTX 2080 TI ,
I know for you is very hard to understand but in order to optimize your GPU performance for your workload is more than just thrown everything to your SMs
and expect are used to close the 100%
ToadMan
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Ctrl-F “Flight Sim”
Ctrl-F “Fable”
Ctrl-F “Perfect Dark”
Not to mention people talking about Elden ring - I’m beginning to think that’s an Xbox exclusive.
They have been rumoured to have bought about another 5 studios at least - maybe it’s bloober, maybe it’s Konami, maybe it’s Sega, maybe it’s all of them lol.
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You gotta admit, according to what is being teased we should be looking at a reveal so full of content it’ll crash the internet.
Just get all your banking stuff done before the MS show because sites will be down for days.
Get HYPEEEEEEE!
lepermessiah
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I love this guy, he's definitely more of an authority by virtue of his engineering studies than the vast majority here, I learned a lot:
ToadMan
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Yeah $400 from Sony would be huge - $400 for DE and $449 for disc version would be a major hit.
But I don’t think Sony will get that low based on comments from Jim Ryan - “it won’t be cheap, but it will be good value” or words to that effect.
Mix it in with inflation and a reasonable price is the $500-600 range I think.
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Deleted member 775630
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But there is an improvement. 4.7TF RDNA2 GPU is more powerful than a 6TF GCN GPU.
bitbydeath
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New Uncharted focused studio?
Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
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Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
Sony's Not-So Secret New First-Party Studio Adds More Naughty Dog Talent
Uncharted endeavour
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FranXico
Member
So, Sony is adopting the "game factory" strategy now?New Uncharted focused studio?
Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
Sony's Not-So Secret New First-Party Studio Adds More Naughty Dog Talent
Uncharted endeavour
Oh well, at least the studio will be able to make games free from the influence of Druckman.
PaintTinJr
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How would the GPU scale easily by logic/workload type - rather than resolution/frame-rate - if they knee cap it with significantly lower bandwidth, proportionally after you factor in CPU/GPU contention ?
Surely the cost of the 10 channels is amortised from the XsX design, along with the VA IO system, no? It might possible to provide a re-binning option for defective XsX boards that fail QA, because a lower thermals from a 20 CU APU on the same motherboard is likely to have a wider QA tolerance.
Without the full 560GB/s Lockhart's reduce RAM become a harder sell to developers and makes lockhart a tougher sales pitch against the X1X IMHO.
Bo_Hazem
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Well been saying PS4 Pro is a much better deal than PS4/Slim since 2016 to friends but you know some didn't have 4K's by then at least but now it's extremely widespread here more than 1080p due to Chinese, cheap models and they're miles better than any premium 1080p tv's.
It's a waste of time to even talk about graphics with people still using 1080p tv's/monitors, even 1440p monitors in that matter although these tend to be tiny and more forgiving with less resolution.
Bo_Hazem
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It's easy, UE5 is running on the best platform. Some armchair devs here don't wanna accept that, and it's fine, Tim Sweeney will keep schooling them.
Rudius
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I'd prefer a new IP or Jak 4. Six Uncharteds is enough.New Uncharted focused studio?
Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
Sony's Not-So Secret New First-Party Studio Adds More Naughty Dog Talent
Uncharted endeavour
Bo_Hazem
Banned
New Uncharted focused studio?
Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
Sony's Not-So Secret New First-Party Studio Adds More Naughty Dog Talent
Uncharted endeavour
I would take Uncharted any day, one of the best IP's in the gaming industry. Give me more! Just don't axe Nathan Drake and Sullivan. The humor you get from both is worth 30% of the game at least.
HawarMiran
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I don't think we will play as Nathan Drake. He settled down. And I think his nagging wife would divorce him if he did. I can only see him being the protagonist if let's say his daughter gets kidnapped or vanishes on some treasure hunt and he has to look for her.
Killer Sakoman
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40 CU is a waste od die space and will not reduce the price of the console. They can just make 20 CU and 1.6 ghz. I also believe they will go with 192 bit bus memory to reduce cost while keeping the 1 TB SSD.
Bo_Hazem
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Yeah I saw that coming, but more like his daughter being the protagonist. Feminizing all lead characters isn't feeling good to me. Let's have a Joe Croft instead of Lara and see them snap because of it.
HawarMiran
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Yeah it would be the same as not playing Link in Zelda games anymore. Nathan Drake is Uncharted but in the end it is about being a fun game. I like the set pieces,traversel and shooting in UC so i would play it anyway
Great Hair
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PaintTinJr
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So would the RT cores in all likelihood - be a waste - if they don't provide similar memory bandwidth as the XsX IMHO. And I really think they only need a cheap SSD cache in the lockhart - the size of a game, so less 100GB - as part of a hybrid mechanical drive, along with providing the external SSD port that interfaces the VA IO, so they can upsell the highly profitable external SSD modules to the entry level buyers.
On the memory side of things, 560GB/s might sound like a lot, but when you consider the XsX and lockhart are intended to share a CPU spec (according to rumours) then that CPU is consuming a lot of that 336GB/s (of 192bit bus unified RAM) when it doesn't have an additional 10GB GPU pool with 560GB/s to asymmetrically access,, too and might risk starving the ~4TF RDNA2 GPU
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Also if the CPU memory use(IO and SSD, BCpack features) is supposed to be the same on lockhart(as XsX) to stop next-gen games being held back by the ~4TF console, then of the rumoured 7.5GB available to games on lockart - presumably of 10GBs, 1GB per channel with the same 2.5 use by the OS - then we would expect the same 3.5GB of the 7.5GB to be used by the CPU, leaving just 4GB for the ~4TF, so bandwidth to keep the GPU fed might be even more crucial with such a small dedicated pool.
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Darius87
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i hope ND does uncharted rather some other studio if not game most likely would fail.New Uncharted focused studio?
Hopefully they rotate between at least two IPs and don’t stick solely to Uncharted.
Sony's Not-So Secret New First-Party Studio Adds More Naughty Dog Talent
Uncharted endeavour
J_Gamer.exe
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jonnyp
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This new studio needs to get Amy Hennig back in if they are gonna make a new Uncharted.
SSfox
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Would be nice, but the question is will she going to be interested?
jonnyp
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Hopefully, since it's a new studio and new management. Uncharted is her baby after all.
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Killer Sakoman
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I do not thing this 4tf console will be designed to do RT. If they want to capture the cheap, they go cheap and cut RT , memory bandwidth. They however, should not touch the CPU and SSD at all. otherwise they hold us back for the entire generation.
xacto
Member
YOU DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT LARA LIKE THIS!!
Killer Sakoman
Member
Hopefully not another Uncharted. Need more IPs that are innovative, original but not weird.
thurnishaleygw
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sircaw
Banned
Sully the early years.
sircaw
Banned
I think i am on you on this one, i played the uncharted collection, was amazing. I could not put them down.
The lost legacy one, i enjoyed but not sure i liked the open world concept, still very very good.
I am playing uncharted 4 atm, chapter six, looks wonderful, plays great but i will admit, i feel i have kinda seen it all before.
I would love to see a new ip from them, something like uncharted but say in a sci fi setting, futuristic, mass effect kinda of vibe. New character, new worlds, new abilities, gadgets same kinda of formula.
SSfox
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The only case where i can see myself spend more time on Xbox series X over PS5, is if most of multiplat, mostly those i play will run better on Xbox series X, and i'm not just talking about graphics here since some res diffrence isn't a big deal, but things like input lag response, online play ect, cases like RDR1, Bayonetta, or SF4 on PS360 for those who knows those games, it was the reason i spent more time on Xbox 360 over PS3 during 2010 to 2012.
Now do i think something like this is likely to happen with XSX/PS5? well i definitely don't think so, i actually even think that PS5 may win the input lag war, but of course, time will tell about those things. But i'm just saying, cause outside of this aspect i don't see what would make Xbox win over PS in next gen.
Now do i think something like this is likely to happen with XSX/PS5? well i definitely don't think so, i actually even think that PS5 may win the input lag war, but of course, time will tell about those things. But i'm just saying, cause outside of this aspect i don't see what would make Xbox win over PS in next gen.
DrDamn
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Tom Braider!
Rudius
Member
That could be interesting
Perhaps making it more open, with Sullivan driving muscle cars and seducing women in the 70s.
MasterCornholio
Member
What about a next gen Daxter game?
I really liked the one on the PSP. It would be great if they could make another one.
I really liked the one on the PSP. It would be great if they could make another one.
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Bo_Hazem
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What about a next gen Daxter game?
I really liked the one on the PSP. It would be great if they could make another one.
I would love one! Naughty Dog already lost Crash Bandicoot, well known PS mascot, now better have multiple iconic faces instead of relying on one, it's Sony's new idea, I guess, and it shows that it's not milking one IP like the competition:
MasterCornholio
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I would love one! Naughty Dog already lost Crash Bandicoot, well known PS mascot, now better have multiple iconic faces instead of relying on one, it's Sony's new idea, I guess, and it shows that it's not milking one IP like the competition:
On a side note I also enjoyed the Ape Escape franchise as well. Certainly was very different to other games that came out back then.
Wraith Phantom
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Astrobot is lining up the job to be the PS mascot.
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