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TheGreatWhiteShark
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nope
here's an example so you understand better:
spiderman 4k at its highest resolution case during gameplay has a resolution of ~1580p
1580p is ~4.4 million pixels, 2160p (4k) is ~8.2 million pixels, so already almost half (~53%)
Now from those 1580p (or less), half of them are previous frame data (temporal injection)
So, as you see, its 50% (temp. inj) of 53% of native 4k, so very much less than half.
Overall, in spiderman's case with temporal injection only 27% or less of the 4k resolution pixels are rendered per frame
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sircaw
Banned
its coming, i am sure they will find some box without a reflection on it.
Hey Dan
I'm suspecting all they need is knock down the resolution for 60fps, no need to turn off ray-tracing. The fact it will be lower res means it will be projecting less rays accordingly, remember the GPU is at 2.23ghz it will still manage to get the bounces back in 16.6ms (ok I'm guessing) I'm sure it's been single bounce in R&C?... this is where the XSX MAY struggle doing something similar tho going by the specs
No need to reduce other settings like particle effects, there is still fare amount of grunt left in the hardware to do everything in less time... tho some may prefer to reduce it cos it's crazy as it is! But I love it, the more the merrier
So performance mode is most likely just that, higher framerate at the cost of resolution and nothing else sacrificed (if coded well!)
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Nah he's too busy writing how Haven XsX (gosh this name sounds like a typical gamertag from a kid only playing cod) version finally shows next gen better than anything we've seen so far.And that it puts in light (he loves light) how sony's games are a disapointement because they lack ray tracing(even the titles that have them).
And how if they had they should better show it because if an expert like him can find them how come a simple man with basic eyes and no analysing tools can (even though most did found the raytracing).
Then someone will call him out on his bullshit so he'll block him on twitter and ban him on era because "harassment", then justice will be served.
We will all live in a better world with the lightbringer and vessel of truth beyond facts Alex Battlebias.
sircaw
Banned
I am gonna so laugh if your right hah
sircaw
Banned
These might get PS5 ready tag sometime later.
wonder what the cost of those babies are gonna be
splattered
Member
These might get PS5 ready tag sometime later.
I hate that SSD expansion for both PS5 and XSX are going to be insanely expensive and limited next gen.... this gen i've enjoyed using 8TB external drives (x2) for my games collection.
Has to happen if we want to push SSD forward though i guess...
Moridianae
Member
Gonna be funny, yet sad if it's just another commercial without date or price that got uploaded into their playlist.
I still think September 9th is the date Sony plans to move on. I'm curious how late either one can go without showing the official date and price.
Assuming the rumors, by the time the consoles have it confirmed, it'll be almost 2 months until launch, possibly less if they continue the chicken game.
I still think September 9th is the date Sony plans to move on. I'm curious how late either one can go without showing the official date and price.
Assuming the rumors, by the time the consoles have it confirmed, it'll be almost 2 months until launch, possibly less if they continue the chicken game.
splattered
Member
Maybe they're both waiting this late to announce price because they both want to try and one up each other with a "$399 available... NOW!" moment?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Well it depends are john and richard on vacation?If they were Alex would be like the horny teenager when his parents left the house.Running to the computer ....
You know it's all in your imagination don't you? If the bias is so persistent and obvious then post some clear objective evidence of it. It should be easy enough to find if DF is as biased as you claim. In fact you're so certain of it that I'm sure you'll be able to reel off several stunning examples straight off the top of your head.
StarskySilverz
Member
Wait, I can’t use an external HDD on the PS5? Can someone explain to me why? I’m not the best at computer part specs.
Mahavastu
Member
I do not know...Great videoReally underlines that 8k right now is a marketing gimmick. Christ knows how large screens will have to be for the difference to be visible to the naked eye.
My screen is around 150" (beamer), but despite it being "only" full HD it looks perfectly fine if you are 2-3m (6-9feet?) away. Believe me, you do not really want to be closer. I usually sit 5m away.
I think 4k could bring more details, but I doubt 8K would be much of a difference to 4k...
Nickolaidas
Member
You can use to store and play PS4 BC titles and ONLY store PS5 titles.
kyliethicc
Member
Absolutely. Sony know the M.2 form factor most used is 2280, which these are, and these are fast enough. Should be the perfect drive to add more storage. Hopefully the 1 TB will be under $300 by 2022 or so.These might get PS5 ready tag sometime later.
Sw0pDiller
Member
Imagine having to wait this out while only owning an Xbox one and principally refuse buying a ps4. Nothing to play to get this of your mind... Now I understand the likes of timdog and Eastwood. I feel sorry for them.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
You can, for storing games. But you can't run games off the HDD directly. You had to transfer it into the internal SSD to run the game. The PS5 hardware is designed for SSD speeds only.
Basically, HDD is too slow to run PS5 games.
Moridianae
Member
To me, a one-up isn't in the cards anymore for several reasons. Series S isn't going to shake it up enough, because digital isn't quite fully mainstream enough. I still think even the Series S will be $299-$349 or so.
When I look deeper at the technology powering these systems, I don't see any way they go below $499. I also don't see, economically, they can go above that price without serious consequences. That price seems set.
Maybe $399-$449 for the digital PS5 in the best case situation.
If Sony has been blowing money left and right for exclusives, that hurts chances of them taking a big loss and going $399 for the PS5. They've said it's a premium console,
HeisenbergFX4
has said it's a new generation.You're going to pay a price for it on both sides. The difference will be what is available at launch and Microsoft doesn't have much, but it'll still sell out.
Sony could launch with the ol' Ridge Racer and Tekken and it'd sell out.
kyliethicc
Member
We still don't even know if we can put PS5 games on external HDDs. Sony never said anything about that. They only said we can use HDDs for PS4 games.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
My personal hype for this console launch is at an all time low.
I may get more excited once the PR machine really ramps up but as of right now I have not seen a single thing that screams I must have this.
Knowing I am buying a 3090 and plan on playing all multiplats on PC this year and might only buy the PS5 for the few exclusives I will play really has me down on the new consoles.
My hype level right now 3/10 but start showing me stuff and I am sure that will rise.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
You want examples ? Really? Here we go:
- that halo video titled are halo graphism really flat where he states that it is because of shadows that the game look like this and how to fix it easily.ecause that's exatly what the titlesaid it would be excuses and justifications.
-him not being able to spot raytracing in spiderman when it was already confirmed
-Him interrupting John on their next gen analysis about 60fps when except halo nothing has been confirmed at 60 with xbox exclusives and John correcting him multiple times
-him saying that ps5 has no hardware raytracing when it was already confirmed
-Him being part of a discord which gave birth to fake insider like tommy fischer said group being like a rallying point for Xbox extremists fanboys
-him saying that the SSD won't halp games beside load times
-the countless times he's been proven wrong even by kingthrash whom I don't like (especially that Gears 5 analysis)
-Zomming 300% on ps5 video to pinpoint lower resolution raytracing but not doing the same for the opposition.
-Banning people on ERA when they show prooves of his errors
EDIT: he's also on twitter that the last Ratchet and clank presentation saying that there wasn't a lot to say and that it has and I quote "loading times.Not understanding that games are basically always loading something because that's how games works.Do you call that a professionnal analysis or the simple opinion of a warrior.Even worse I've had more technically accurate chat with Xbox fans than he is capable of in his Twitter.
Do you really need more ?
See I think John leans a bit more toward Xbox, yet it doesn't prevent him from getting way more objective in his analysis.That's why I have no problem with either John and Richard simply because they don't act a warrior and do their job as professionally as possible.
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Moridianae
Member
Would you think both systems would've benefitted by being delayed out of this year?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I think they would do better out of the gate if they waited until next year yes.
Do I want them to be delayed or even think they will be? No but it also wouldn't shock me if they were.
Right now I am more looking forward to day zero patches for Ghost of Tsushima and a couple of others and will replay those on the 5.
We are getting close though....
kyliethicc
Member
I hope Sony announce something next week.
Gediminas
Banned
but you can share the post
MasterCornholio
Member
Excluding the noise from insiders I definitely believe Sony is going to do something soon since they started their marketing for the PS5. These ads that they keep posting and their head of marketing telling us the system is still in track are signs that we will get PS5 related news soon.
On the other hand with Microsoft we only have insiders talking about them but nothing official from Microsoft yet. They haven't ramped up their marketing like Sony has nor have they told us that the system is still on track. Maybe it doesn't mean anything in the end but they have been quiet lately.
sircaw
Banned
but you can share the post
Private convos always remain private.
I might not look like it but i have standards.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Seems fishy, weren't you watching twilight a couple of days ago?And talking about standards now ?Private convos always remain private.
I might not look like it but i have standards.
More seriously yeah always keep your pm as secret even when they appear innocent because you can't know how the other person feel about sharing what you discussed.
FranXico
Member
I hope that the same people who started this thread:
When is NX Gamer Tech Analysis on MSFS2020?
So it has been more than 10 days. Is he planning to do an analysis on that game or is he gonna skip it?
NXGamer
of fanboyism for not analysing FS2020 yet do the same to DF then.But I'm not holding my breath for that.
I really don't understand your argument here. Technology is always advancing, it's very naive to say something cannot be furthered because it has been researched for decades. Actually, its plain stupid
Gediminas
Banned
ok, write me in privatePrivate convos always remain private.
I might not look like it but i have standards.
it will remain in private 
Neo Blaster
Member
Easy choice, I hate the auto-update feature that comes with gold.
thelastword
Banned
It's no wonder, it's the same people talking about "Hurry Sony, reveal something, tell us something, show us something already, give us the price"......I'm not sure they have a PS4 because they would have plenty great games to play even now, to occupy their minds. I suspect this is mainly coming from persons who did not have much to play these last 7 years and are trying "the world is ending, what is the price already schtick, Sony is not being transparent here"...
The console will launch in November, Sony has boosted production of the console in an attempt to meet demand. It will sell out whether Sony releases the price today or in October or even November.......Sony can set pre-orders on November the 1st and there will be plenty of time to get a pre-order in....
sircaw
Banned
ok, write me in private
Lol sorry no chance.
Lysandros
Member
Temporal injection, that's confirmed by the devs.
sircaw
Banned
I have watched four of them now, thank god for the fast forward button.
I can honestly say, i am happy to of watched them as a reference point but holy moly, they fucking sucked balls.
onesvenus
Member
Can you point me where I said it cannot be advanced?
I'm saying, and I thought I was clear about it, that people that expect that raytracing state of art, something that has been studied and researched for the last 40 years, will suddenly improve quickly now that Sony engineers are working on it are not being realistic. Thinking that is plain stupid.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Here's a fish of commitment, of sheer fucking will.
But a lot of stupidity too (having watched 4 twilight movie) or .... Maybe you are a masochist?You like pain (and that's telling when a french tell you that (for those that know a few words in french)) that's the only explanation.
Visualift
Member
Microsoft is the one who needs to be aggressive this generation. The longer Sony waits the more pressure on Microsoft to risk low-stock in stores due to purchasing. Just because Sony came in with the $399 surprise last time doesn't mean that's their intent this time around. The demand for Sony Product is already higher so they'll have an easier job filling shelves.
Still think Microsoft announces first.
Fans don't need to know when it launches or for how much... they'll still get it.
Still think Microsoft announces first.
Fans don't need to know when it launches or for how much... they'll still get it.
Great Hair
Banned
That shit is fake, as fake as XSX footage. They told IGN to replace the "booing" with applause or outright did themselves? Even Gamespot replaced it. Check the comment section here.
this is live. he got booed of the stage, like the two dudes during EVO show.
edit: thanks to some live blogs, sponsered once by Microsoft "lol"
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Agnostic2020
Member
Seems MS has decided to go first . News from them for xss and possibly price
Nickolaidas
Member
That shit is fake, as fake as XSX footage. They told IGN to replace the "booing" with applause or outright did themselves? Even Gamespot replaced it. Check the comment section here.
this is live. he got booed of the stage, like the two dudes during EVO show.
Wow. Just wow, MS.
MasterCornholio
Member
Seems MS has decided to go first . News from them for xss and possibly price
Looks like a delay is off the table then. They would have an event just to announce it.
Gediminas
Banned
That shit is fake, as fake as XSX footage. They told IGN to replace the "booing" with applause or outright did themselves? Even Gamespot replaced it. Check the comment section here.
this is live. he got booed of the stage, like the two dudes during EVO show.
saddest thing, the man says : be quiet. in that video. it was pretty low.
Saudumm
Member
So a heavily edited video is your proof that the crowd booed after the price reveal and all major sites edited the video at the request of microsoft? Seriously, I've read way better conspiracy theories.
Games Dean
Member
He doesn't know anything. Anybody could predict Sony will acquire more studios. Dude's been proven a fraud in here like 4 times in the last week alone.
Maybe Jace Skell isn't lying.
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