MisterHero
Super Member
I supposed they could be used to store custom movesets.
That's nice I guess.
That's nice I guess.
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NFC confirmed for Smash Bros for Wii U
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So, let's say there's 45 characters, and each character is £5... that's a lot of money
Edit:
If we were talking about Shia in Hyrule Warriors and replaced 'NFC policy' with 'boobs', you'd be Ben Kuchera.
that I'll be spending like no tomorrow, BRING ON THE FIGURINES!
Edit:
If we were talking about Shia in Hyrule Warriors and replaced 'NFC policy' with 'boobs', you'd be Ben Kuchera.
Gameboy415
Member
I will buy every single figure no matter what it costs!
*takes out a loan*
In all seriousness, I'm excited to see how these will integrate into Smash Bros.
I just pray they're not going to be sold in blind-boxes like the Pokemon Rumble figures were!
*takes out a loan*
In all seriousness, I'm excited to see how these will integrate into Smash Bros.
I just pray they're not going to be sold in blind-boxes like the Pokemon Rumble figures were!
A lot of people are saying the figures will act like memory cards for custom movesets, or unlock things like trophies. While I think that would be a good idea... would that actually sell these things?
I wouldn't be surprised if these things were a tad more important to the actual gameplay. For example:
-Buy a Ganondorf NFC figure, scan to unlock Ganondorf. Of course, you can still unlock him the standard way (complete task/play vs. matches), but with the toy it's faster, and you got a cool toy!
-Buy a Dr. Mario NFC figure, scan to unlock the Dr. Mario alt costume for Mario! Only possible through buying the toy.
-Buy a Tanooki Suit Mario NFC figure, scan to unlock exclusive Super Mario Bros 3 music! Only possible through buying the toy.
I know a lot of you are going to hate me for suggesting this ("these things should be a part of the regular game for free!"), but really, who's going to buy these figures for fucking trophies or custom movesets?
I wouldn't be surprised if these things were a tad more important to the actual gameplay. For example:
-Buy a Ganondorf NFC figure, scan to unlock Ganondorf. Of course, you can still unlock him the standard way (complete task/play vs. matches), but with the toy it's faster, and you got a cool toy!
-Buy a Dr. Mario NFC figure, scan to unlock the Dr. Mario alt costume for Mario! Only possible through buying the toy.
-Buy a Tanooki Suit Mario NFC figure, scan to unlock exclusive Super Mario Bros 3 music! Only possible through buying the toy.
I know a lot of you are going to hate me for suggesting this ("these things should be a part of the regular game for free!"), but really, who's going to buy these figures for fucking trophies or custom movesets?
I'd imagine they'll make the figures multipurpose. Get exclusive costumes/music plus a trophy, stamps (if Smash has them) and storage for profile data.
Send me to it please.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140508/04.html
It's pretty clear that Nintendo wants them to be more than just unlock tools. They're for creating your own character with its own unique stats and abilities.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Isn't the idea explicitly that they're used for multiple games and you don't buy one to unlock a trophy, you buy it for something else and it also unlocks the trophy?
Like, Iwata pretty clearly said in the briefing "We're going to sell the toys and the software stuff just comes along with it."
If you use an NFC figure to unlock Ganondorf, what stops you from using a friend's? From buying one and scanning it in the package and then returning it? Why wouldn't they just sell DLC in that case, which is guaranteed to be more profitable? How do you unlock the characters without just making it sign in to the Wii U online account, or should they just put all of them on disc to be unlocked by people, anyway? Do you just swipe every figure every time you want to play?
It's completely unfeasible and actively goes against what incredibly little they've already said about it.
Spiderduff
Member
I'll be honest with you. I would. I would buy them just to have them even if they did nothing but unlock a trophy just to have the figure. I have very little Nintendo stuff as far as collectibles.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Yeah, I don't think this will be required to unlock characters or stages. I mean, perhaps it will provide an alternate means of unlocking them, but Nintendo's statement about NFC doesn't make it seem like they will be entirely necessary.
MisterHero
Super Member
.Shocking Alberto said:
My own little suggestion would be to sell the figures with VC download codes. Cost as much as DLC but are complete games.
I'm not entirely confident in this idea but I love Nintendo collectibles anyways.
That's the main appeal to me. Collecting nintendo merch. The fact that they can be used in games is a bonus. If I already have figures, and then miyamoto comes out with a game that uses them exclusively, then i might as well buy the game if it looks good, because it gives more value to merch I have already purchased.
shaowebb
Member
Seriously why was this not something folks even brought up more in their speculation? Nintendo is a toy company who make a killing on collectibles...it makes sense. Blah blah blah yeah we know they passed on skylanders and how that turned out. It never meant they wouldn't do it and seriously ...why would they build a controller with it as a major feature and then never make one of their biggest games that focuses on collecting and unlocking shit primarily focused on it?
SparksterMeta0
Member
I think the NFC will work the same way as the cards did for Kid Icarus Uprising. Maybe not expanding the roster, but something else.
It will be neither, most likely.
Hours Left
Member
If they're nice figurines, this might be very bad for my wallet.
If they're non-essential why do they even exist? What becomes the incentive for consumers or retailers to be interested in the figurines?
ieptbarakat
Member
In my opinion this is worse than on disc dlc. Anyone remember the e-reader accessory for the gba? It's a neat idea but with the advent of the internet you're going to lose more sales than gain them if you're requiring people to purchase accessorys to access digital content.
(That's if it is just exclusive to dlc.)
(That's if it is just exclusive to dlc.)
UselessNinja
Banned
I find it bizarre that so many people here are actually excited about this. :/
It's not for accessing digital content.
Because people like to collect things?
MisterHero
Super Member
A bunch of posters on NeoGAF complained that Nintendo milk their characters too much. Now they're not milking them enough because they didn't copy Skylanders.
but it'll make the investors happy.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
The figures are confirmed to be memory cards in effect. As others have already said, you'll probably be able to easily transfer custom movesets. Perhaps Miis and controller presets could be used as well.
Besides that, it could be cool unlockable bonuses that have no effect on gameplay.
And the other important thing is these, in theory, will work with multiple games. Buying one of these figures is also buying something for another game besides Smash, depending on the specific figurine.
Personally, I'd say that I'm cautiously optimistic about this. If major unlocks are stuck behind a paywall, I'll probably be pissed off. At this point, it's about the only thing that can keep me from getting these games.
Metalingus5150
Member
Thanks for that.
I'll be more cautiously optimistic about it then.
Hey, if I think the worst, that means if it's good, it'll be even sweeter. lol
Diprosalic
Banned
After resisting buying stupidly overpriced limited editions or sinking money in the f2p wormhole and never having any interest in Skylanders or Disney Infinity, the video game industry finally will get me broke.
well done.
well done.
Unlockable bonuses do have an effect on the gameplay when it comes to Smash Brothers, which is an experience based around completing challenges to unlock hidden content. If the figures serve as simple memory cards there's less incentive for users to buy multiple figures. And when it comes to these figures being implemented in other games...it's difficult to imagine the entire spectrum of what can fit in a Smash Brothers game being inserted into other titles.
It's just hard for me to imagine this stuff working out well. More than that, what is the expectation here for fans of Smash Brothers? That they should buy the 3DS version, the WiiU version, and a bunch of figurines? Is that really something fans can look forward to?
UselessNinja
Banned
but why would you want toys to effect the game one way or another? really wish they just made a new game around the nfc and kept it as far away as possible from smash
Because it likely won't really effect the game?
The NFC Figurines are to be used in multiple games as your own characters that you level up. (For what purpose, we don't know)
The difference between this and a memory card is that they're not... universal? The Mario one tells the game "I'm Memory card 0x1321890A, to you, that means i'm mario" and the game says "Oh hey, mario memory card, now I will do X operation"
In some games, that may unlock mario. In some games, that may unlock mario related content, and in a game like smash brothers, it may ONLY LET YOU SAVE MARIO INFORMATION, such as MARIO'S custom moveset. Not link's, not Zelda's, only mario's.
100% Gimmick, but that's fine.
The only reason to hate on this is if you believe nintendo will lock significant content behind smash brothers. I understand that fear, but I don't think it'll be real. Honestly, the worst case scenario is that a subset of trophies are only unlockable this way, but I REALLY doubt it. My guess is that the NFC stuff acts like a SHORTCUT and automatically unlocks the trophies, or unlocks characters early (Scan captain falcon, unlock him instantly, instead of after completing classic mode). The reason I think it'll only be a shortcut is for the same reason that the AR cards in KI:Uprising weren't required. If you scanned them, it unlocked the trophy/idol whatever automatically, but you could still unlock them by playing the game. I can almost guarantee that smash bros will be the same.
Almost assuredly yes. If you can 'demo' skylanders figures at target, you can almost guaranteed do this with nintendo's NFP.
JStein0222
Member
Can't wait to see how this is going to work, I have so many questions.
Let's say there's a figure of each character and it holds that character's custom move set and some other information about the player. This would mean:
- Nintendo would have to make a figure for each character in Smash
- Future NFC capable games would have to be in a weird position and either include every smash character in their games, or say only some/none of the smash figures work with their game making the cross compatible deal null and void,
- Forgetting about the cross-game stuff for a moment - would Nintendo really produce figures of all the playable characters in smash? Maybe this just isn't as tough as I think it is....I really do want a Little Mac figure though...
Situation 2: Figures are made to essentially sell DLC - we're talking new characters and costumes
- Figures would be being made of less popular characters or less popular versions of characters. Example: You can't buy Mario, but you can buy Dr. Mario.
- Cross game thing again doesn't seem to fit here.
I do hope that if there is just going to be a figure that you have the option of owning for every playable character then they at least make the model in game look special in some way, shape or form. I do LIKE the idea - it just seems too large in scope to imagine. I would LOVE to have a Little Mac buddy that I import into my Smash Bros games.
Incoming Android application??!? Haha
Let's say there's a figure of each character and it holds that character's custom move set and some other information about the player. This would mean:
- Nintendo would have to make a figure for each character in Smash
- Future NFC capable games would have to be in a weird position and either include every smash character in their games, or say only some/none of the smash figures work with their game making the cross compatible deal null and void,
- Forgetting about the cross-game stuff for a moment - would Nintendo really produce figures of all the playable characters in smash? Maybe this just isn't as tough as I think it is....I really do want a Little Mac figure though...
Situation 2: Figures are made to essentially sell DLC - we're talking new characters and costumes
- Figures would be being made of less popular characters or less popular versions of characters. Example: You can't buy Mario, but you can buy Dr. Mario.
- Cross game thing again doesn't seem to fit here.
I do hope that if there is just going to be a figure that you have the option of owning for every playable character then they at least make the model in game look special in some way, shape or form. I do LIKE the idea - it just seems too large in scope to imagine. I would LOVE to have a Little Mac buddy that I import into my Smash Bros games.
Incoming Android application??!? Haha
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If they start making Shiny pokemon figures for pokemon games and they are rare I will need two jobs
Version 3.0
Member
Not for me, I think. And if it turns out to be a lock-out-content-and-sell-it-back-to-you scenario, I won't buy the game at all.
But I pay no attention to Skylanders, etc. What do you get for buying a Skylanders figure, in the game? What can Nintendo do with these that isn't just DLC locked to a physical purchase?
But I pay no attention to Skylanders, etc. What do you get for buying a Skylanders figure, in the game? What can Nintendo do with these that isn't just DLC locked to a physical purchase?
Sorcerer
Member
Super Smash Bros. special edition with every NFC character and a special case. $250 bucks./jk
Skylanders are locked to a single game (or series if you're lucky with a few figures).
These are only locked to the WiiU and 3DS, but can be used in any game any company that makes games for those systems releases.
So you can transfer stats and data from one game to a completely different game.
Like say, you can get levels from beating a few rounds of Smash and they can make Mario stronger in Paper Mario U.
Dr. Buni
Member
Me too. Elsewhere people seem to be worried/displeased about this, but here on GAF people are actually happy about it. Weird.
Version 3.0
Member
Okay, that's harmless, I suppose.
SentientStone
Member
It would be cool if this year's club Nintendo has some limited edition NFC Smash Bros. figures available for members.
Their goal will be to make you wanna keep the figures and not to resell it after unlocking a costume or music track. So I expect mayor implementation as well as bonuses for using your characters in multiple games. Might even get bonuses depending on how long you have been owning a figure and in game achievements you cleared with it.
Other info from that interview:
The guy speaking is the General Manager of Nintendo France
40k WiiU sold so far for 2014
340k LTD
SM3DW 125K LTD
2.9m 3DS LTD in France.
3ds is the best selling console, they expect 1 million to be sold by year end.
65% is 3dsXL, 30% is 2DS
MPIT 70K
Yoshi 60k
BD 60K
SMT IV translation still underway
The guy speaking is the General Manager of Nintendo France
40k WiiU sold so far for 2014
340k LTD
SM3DW 125K LTD
2.9m 3DS LTD in France.
3ds is the best selling console, they expect 1 million to be sold by year end.
65% is 3dsXL, 30% is 2DS
MPIT 70K
Yoshi 60k
BD 60K
SMT IV translation still underway