DeaconKnowledge
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It sucks that he's right. If I were the Steelers i'd Use Ward in Redzone packages almost exclusively. He just doesn't have the speed to make the catch and turn upfield anymore.bionic77 said:
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NFL 2011 Week 9 |OT| Release the Tebow!
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Dude you are preaching to the choir.DeaconKnowledge said:
I was saying Hines was washed up since last year. And if I noticed it as a casual fan on tv it must have been apparent to the team and coaches long before that.
Not only does he not have the burst to get open quickly (someone we really need in our offense to keep moving the chains) or the ability to make guys miss or run through them, but he has a bad habit in the last 2-3 years of dropping balls over the middle when he gets crunched. Ward was never the most athletic player, but he was a great receiver because he was smart, tough and most importantly always hung onto the ball. Once you stop dropping balls you shouldn't be on the field anymore.
I understand why the Steelers are giving him this much respect, but it can't be done at the team's expense. We aren't Green Bay and he isn't Brett Farve.
Goro Majima
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Hines Ward is officially old and busted.
The good news is that he's in good company with T.O., Ochocinco, Randy Moss, Plaxico Burress, etc. etc.
The good news is that he's in good company with T.O., Ochocinco, Randy Moss, Plaxico Burress, etc. etc.
yankeehater said:
Am I the only who thinks it would be a mistake to trade Manning or even select Luck on the same roster?
Now of course this all hinges on Manning coming back healthy but wouldn't it be smarter to bet on the sure thing? If healthy Manning is one of the top, if not the top, QB in the league. He can still play for another 4-5 years at a top level. Why risk losing those years and possible SBs and bet on a kid who as much hype as he has could turn out to be a bust?
If he comes back healthy I would fleece some team for the #1 pick and use the rest of the draft to select players to help Manning.
Goro Majima
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Peyton Manning is 35 coming off of a season ending injury to his neck.
You can't pass up Luck.
You can't pass up Luck.
RBH said:
Can someone explain how this works?
I see now that they again reversed the NYC region back to 49ers/Skins after switching from it to Cowboys/Seahawks but the Philly market now gets Cowboys/Seahawks.
Why is that game better more important than Skins/49ers? And why does Philly get stuck with the Cowboys game while NYC gets the Skins?
DeaconKnowledge
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jmdajr said:
Antonio Brown is 2nd on the Depth Chart.
Goro Majima
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effzee said:
I think part of the problem is that you won't even know if he's 100% healthy until after the draft it sounds like. Heck, it's been shown that his exact same injury has ended careers but not 100% of the time so who knows?
I agree that if Luck isn't a Pro Bowl QB 2 years after he's drafted, then he's a HUGE bust. However, from where I'm sitting, it's probably the same amount of risk either way.
The worst thing a franchise can do, however, is hang onto a player out of sentimental value more than anything else.
We get really dangerous when we sent out Wallace, Brown, Miller and Sanders/Cotchery at the same time and spread the defense out. That is tough for any team to defend if the offensive line blocks. It just isn't as potent when Sanders/Cotchery is replaced with Ward.DeaconKnowledge said:
I don't think Hines should be benched or anything, we should just use him less (more on running plays and red zone situations).
effzee said:
Let's look at the risk reward scenarios.
Drafting Luck:
risk
1) Might piss off Peyton
2) Small chance that he's a bust.
reward
1) He could be the face of your franchise for the next 15 years.
2) Potential trade value of Peyton Manning.
3) Potential for Luck to be mentored by Manning for 2-3 years.
Not drafting Luck:
risk
1) Peyton may never play again, or never be the same, and you could become the 1980s era Colts again.
2) You WILL need to draft a QB in the next 2 years anyways.
reward
1) Peyton doesn't get his feelings hurt.
talisayNon
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I made the mistake of taking 5 classes this semester. My Sundays are completely gone to waste cause of football. Now I'm just going to have to drop Calc 3.
cuevas. PhD.
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But calc 3 is easy, drop a hard class.talisayNon said:
I was listening to Rich Eisen's podcast and I love how Peter King makes the proclamation that the Steelers are on the verge of becoming a passing team. :lol
We have been a passing team since 2007. Man it must be fucking nice to be a NFL analysts. All you have to do is just ape or repeat what everyone else is saying.
We have been a passing team since 2007. Man it must be fucking nice to be a NFL analysts. All you have to do is just ape or repeat what everyone else is saying.
Spectral Glider
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bionic77 said:
They should use him like a tight end really. He's a better blocker than the ones they have on the roster anyway. Like with Miller last week, let the young speedsters clear out space and hit him underneath. Whatever they do with him, it's a good problem to have. Still hard to imagine that they won SBs with Cedric Wilson and then Nate Washington on their roster compared with what they have today.
DeaconKnowledge
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It all leads back to Ben. A stat I've kept hearing since Sunday is that This is Ben's first win where he throws 30 or more passes. I think the common opinion of these sportswriters and Analysts is that in order to be a passing team, you have to chuck the ball 30, 40, 50 times in a game like Brees, Rodgers, or Brady, all 3 QBs who have very little run game to speak of.bionic77 said:
talisayNon
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cuevas said:
Not going through the pain of Algorighms or Theoretical Computer Science again. Might as well get it done now.1
Simmons is a comedian who makes some sports observations so I will give him a pass.squicken said:
But the assholes like Lombardi and King pretend like they actually understand what the current and future trends are in the game, but this is just one of many examples of how the average fan seems to see more than they do (without access to coaches, game film, etc.).
Hey I like being the underdog.DeaconKnowledge said:
I don't like this talk of the Steelers being the team to beat in the AFC. This team NEVER handles media praise well. Not Ben, not the defense, no one. I want he media to keep saying we are old, that Ben is a game manager, anything to give these bastards motivation.
yankeehater
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effzee said:
The idea is you would rather have 10+ years of good QB play, then 3 or 4. Luck seems like a sure thing and the risk of passing on him is to great. Even if you keep Manning and try to retool for a SB run, there is no knowing if it will even work. Manning has only won one and it took an insane amount of Luck for that to happen.
DeaconKnowledge
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Manning will never be 100% again.effzee said:
Fixed2BeBroken
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yankeehater said:
PUN INTENDED?!?!?!
yankeehater
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Fixed2BeBroken said:
No not at all.
Fixed2BeBroken
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yankeehater said:
just joking, thought it was funny how that turned out.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Well, at least the Broncos scouts won't have to travel far to see Matt Barkley this weekend.
Big Baybee
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I'm Tebowed the fuck out, ESPN.
yankeehater
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Fixed2BeBroken said:
I cringed just thinking about the headlines that will be written once Luck is in the league.
DeaconKnowledge
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He's 35 years old and has had 3 surgeries on the same problem which is notoriously easy to aggravate especially in sport.bionic77 said:
FrenchMovieTheme
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yankeehater said:
They should have traded for kolb
Big Baybee
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Ryan Leaf is on First Take. Why?
Gully State
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Because he's no longer the biggest bust of all time.Jamarcus Russell in comparison makes Leaf a lovable loser.Big Baybee said:
vas_a_morir
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Nightz said:
Compared to jamarcus, tho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMe0Rz1frdENightz said:
Futurevoid
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Kolb not likely to play Sunday. Skeletor era beginning (again?) in Arizona..
HarryDemeanor
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Elway is trying to figure out what jersey size he wears for his gift.ChiTownBuffalo said:
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