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N'Gai Croal - RE5 Trailer Imagery is Racist

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Rhindle

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besada said:
Really? Are you just really young? The first interracial make out scene I saw was on Star Trek. Saw it again on Rockford Files, and a dozen other TV shows. Never seen a Halle Berry movie? Missed Steve martin and queen Latifah being a couple? Anything starring The Rock? Or do you not count those?
Trouble with the reading comprehension? None of the examples you cite involves "a black guy and a white woman making out on prime time TV."

As I said, I don't watch much TV, so maybe it's not as uncommon as I'm assuming, but my impression is that it's still a no-no.
 

besada

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onemic said:
Hannah Harper

/thread

A) Not a U.S. Actress.
B) Has female/female interracial scenes.
C) Who?
D) You missed Big Omar's British Adventures: No Holes Barred. (Anal and facial)

Want to try again?
 

Guled

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You guys just don't see it. The Patriots don't like the fact that Obama might be the next president. Since they are fans of Capcom (they hate Konami for exposing them), they spent all of their assassination budget on RE5 (before Obama stood a chance). So they told capcom to make a game where white people would go out and kill black people so some redneck would get influenced (since its a proven fact that video games cause violence) and would kill Obama for them. Now I must pack my bags and leave before they come for me
 
Rhindle said:
Really?

I don't watch much television, but I was under the impression that instances involving relationships between a black man and a white woman in a broadcast TV show are almost non-existent. I can't recall a single instance of a seeing black guy and a white woman making out on prime time TV.

You don't see that for the same reason that you don't see videogames involving white guys running around killing black people - people in this country still haven't come to terms with all our racial baggage, and those images provoke deep-seated sensitivities even with relatively liberal/open minded people.
Actually, a few shows have but I guess the couple on My Name is Earl have never been seen kissing. Heroes did with the characters of D.L. Hawkins and Nikki Saunders.
Until they killed DL off.
There are others like a brief one I saw on Lost but they don't seem to last long.
 

RumFore

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harSon said:
Answer a few questions.

Why is it considered career suicide for a prominent white porn star to do a scene with a black man?

Why are there entire movies and television shows without a minority? (Lets use Friends an example. Over the course of 10 seasons, how many minorities were represented in a show taking place in Manhattan?)

Why do movie makers feel the need to add the "Token" minority in the background of movies as a replacement for an actual minority character? (Lets use Spider Man 3 and Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix as an example)


1- Because maybe the majority who buy porn don't want to see there fave porn star banged by a black guy. Just like how black guy might not want to see say Halley Berry with a white guy.


2 and 3 - I think its because Hollywood does not know how to portray blacks especially male. Plus lets be honest in that blacks put a stigma on other blacks. There is a "acting black" code that does not stop at Hollywood. Moreover it appears what sells blacks on other blacks in movies is when they act funny or are being a badass.
 

Kipe

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besada said:
A) Not a U.S. Actress.
B) Has female/female interracial scenes.
C) Who?
D) You missed Big Omar's British Adventures: No Holes Barred. (Anal and facial)

Want to try again?

JUDGE: And let the record show that Mr. Hank Hill really knows his pornography.
HANK: Thank you, your honor!

:lol
 

way more

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besada said:
A) Not a U.S. Actress.
B) Has female/female interracial scenes.
C) Who?
D) You missed Big Omar's British Adventures: No Holes Barred. (Anal and facial)

Want to try again?

I was just about to post that. How could you forget?
 

Zabka

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Rhindle said:
Trouble with the reading comprehension? None of the examples you cite involves "a black guy and a white woman making out on prime time TV."

As I said, I don't watch much TV, so maybe it's not as uncommon as I'm assuming, but my impression is that it's still a no-no.
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besada

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Rhindle said:
Trouble with the reading comprehension? None of the examples you cite involves "a black guy and a white woman making out on prime time TV."

As I said, I don't watch much TV, so maybe it's not as uncommon as I'm assuming, but my impression is that it's still a no-no.

One of us clearly has reading comprehension problems. Um, Rockford Files and Star Trek were both prime time. Hint, Jessica Alba -- non-white -- also had a prime time TV show, and it featured -- gasp -- kissing. Different World had interracial dating and kissing. Frankly, I don't watch many shows wherein making out is a big component, and I still run across it.
 

Onemic

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besada said:
A) Not a U.S. Actress.
B) Has female/female interracial scenes.
C) Who?
D) You missed Big Omar's British Adventures: No Holes Barred. (Anal and facial)

Want to try again?

You got me.

Here's a big one then:

Jenna Jameson. non-girl on girl
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
if you saw this game completely without any context then you could see why someone might be offended.

If you don't know that this is about a zombie infection plot line, and if you did see this in passing then you could almost certainly think this game was on very thin ice : if does look like a huge crowds of local native Africans chasing down a white man armed with a gun whilst they throw various primitive weapons at him.

In context, WE know it's a bunch of zombies infected with the <insert virus here>, by dastardly corporation Umbrella. So , yes, IN THAT CONTEXT, it's not particularly offensive. But i can see this being picked up wrongly by someone who does just casually see it in passing.

The controversy around this game is only just starting - after the "it's like LUKE SKYWALKER meets DEBBIE DOES DALLAS" informed take on Mass Effect, you know this is going to get hell....

Actually, from CNN and co. it probably won't... unless the white boy has sex with someone. heh, I doubt they'd miss an opportunity to demonise video gaming again - the smell of fear of interactive entertainment from the Broadcast Media sector is rising.
 

besada

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onemic said:
You got me.

Here's a big one then:

Jenna Jameson. non-girl on girl

Edit: Oops, my bad. That's a Jenna look-alike. Apparently Jenna doesn't liike the black guys, but it's hardly because it would "ruin" her career. It's less common to find a top rate porn star who hasn't had an interracial scene. (By the way, if the research tools were better, I'd bet we'd find her in a scene with at least one mixed-race male performer). Unfortunately, none of the databases pa much attention to the male stars.

She has had interracial sex with female performers. And not counting them just shows how much worse sexism is than any particular brand of racism.
 

harSon

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RumFore said:
1- Because maybe the majority who buy porn don't want to see there fave porn star banged by a black guy. Just like how black guy might not want to see say Halley Berry with a white guy.


2 and 3 - I think its because Hollywood does not know how to portray blacks especially male. Plus lets be honest in that blacks put a stigma on other blacks. There is a "acting black" code that does not stop Hollywood. Moreover it appears what sells blacks on other blacks in movies is when they act funny or are being a badass.

I agree :)

And Beseda my original point was prominent white porn starts not being able to do scenes with Black males without hurting their careers. Some have Black husbands/boyfriends yet they don't do interracial scenes.
 

Rhindle

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besada said:
One of us clearly has reading comprehension problems. Um, Rockford Files and Star Trek were both prime time. Hint, Jessica Alba -- non-white -- also had a prime time TV show, and it featured -- gasp -- kissing. Different World had interracial dating and kissing. Frankly, I don't watch many shows wherein making out is a big component, and I still run across it.
My impression was that neither William Shatner nor Jessica Alba is a "black man." I don't know what the Rockford files thing is, so I can't comment on that.

But anyway, there's the Heroes thing someone else posted, so it's not unheard of, just highly uncommon.
 

Hunter D

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A lot of people arguing against the article don't even understand what the point of the article is. He isn't saying portraying black people as antagonists an killing black people in video games is wrong though.
 
there is nothing even remotely racist in that trailer. Just some mainstream stereotypes that the series always used. This time the game is set Africa, and the stereotypes are applied to the natives and not to american policemans or spanish villagers. Simple. If Capcom showed the natives as weak and slow persons, then it is "racist imagery" because the big white guy kills them easily. If Capcom showed a location in africa without black peoples, then it is still racist because they only show white people, like the old hollywood movies. What we can do ? we should never see a game located in africa because it is "racist imagery", according to a person who have a different cultural mindset because he was born in a different country ? Many black persons will still play this game, and they have my respect: they understand the differences between stereotypes applied to everything mainstream (not that is a good thing, but at least it not applied only to minorities) and racism. This is from someone who live in one of the most stereotyped and colonized country ever: Sicily.
 

Onemic

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besada said:
Do you even try Google? Jenna was in Superfreaks, which is not only interracial, but comically endowed interracial. Hannah was much better, as I had to actually look it up in the adult film database. With Jenna all you have to do is hunt google images.

? Superfreaks is all black(meaning the girls)
 

harSon

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Holy shit :lol I just noticed the only 3 examples of interracial relationships (Black and White) with make out scenes
Ended in death
:lol

Heroes
Day Break
Sleeper Cell
 

besada

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Rhindle said:
My impression was that neither William Shatner nor Jessica Alba is a "black man." I don't know what the Rockford files thing is, so I can't comment on that.

But anyway, there's the Heroes thing someone else posted, so it's not unheard of, just highly uncommon.

And Angel, which i can't believe I didn't post, since I own the whole run and know the actress (from Texas no less) who gets intimate.
 
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