Then make them yellow. I don't give a fuck to be honest.Kandrick said:Thats racist!
Then make them yellow. I don't give a fuck to be honest.Kandrick said:Thats racist!
pn18 said:Please Capcom, make 'em white and stop the debate. Thank you.
harSon said:I don't recall any of the zombies in Resident Evil 4 looking like:
onemic said:He's talking about the section of the trailer before they turn into zombies. Honestly watch it again, and tell me that the people in that trailer don't already look crazy even before they've turned zombie.
gofreak said:It's resident evil. They're zombies, or irreversibly on their way to being zombies.
If the game was just about shooting black people, portraying black people as inhuman or whatever, then maybe I'd see the point. But it's about zombies!
Deadly Monk said:I still don't see the racism remarks as being valid. I think N'Gai needs to learn about cinematography too. There's a reason why they look darker and more evil in some shots, it's called "mood". The reason they're attacking the white guy? He's holding a gun and trying to kill them because maybe they've been infected? Who knows.
They should have set this in South Carolina or the Middle East. Then we'd see how much he would've cared that your shooting BAD people.
sp0rsk said:Looking like what? Are we really going to have a screen shot war? The guy in that screen shot is obviously not in a regular state.
LCGeek said:Your intent makes you racist though I think that's part of your point.
Why are we only allowed to shoot white (ok maybe also yellow) people? I mean really, I hope Capcom releases the game and the whole gaming media will be brought a step further. His retarted elaborations about how the zombies are positioned are stupid. It's a horror game, what the hell does he expectkeanerie said:Anyway, I'm just saying that Croal's right for taking offense to the portrayal of black people as opposed to just the fact that you're mowing them down. Like I said in my last post, I just think it's the wrong place, the wrong game.
harSon said:Characters designs that look like they're from The Birth of a Nation?
keanerie said:A lot of you guys are replying like N'Gai's reacting at the fact that it's black people being killed in this game, when he's really talking about the portrayal of them - you know, as monstrous, shadowy, creepy things - others to Chris Redfield's buff white American self.
Capcom's playing with imagery of monsters/others and heroes/non-others in a cultural language that they've inherited and created out of their own cultural history. They don't have a racial legacy like ours - they only legacy of Black/White race relations is what they've imported from Western media as pop culture archetype. Buff white dudes are bad as hell - hmm wonder where they got that idea? - and black people are evil. It's a cultural shorthand they've been passed on that's not very much different from our "all Asian people are mystical kung fu warriors" - a profile of race that isn't correct and is offensive to a lot of people, that is all over videogames and that nobody makes a hoot about.
Anyway, I'm just saying that Croal's right for taking offense to the portrayal of black people as opposed to just the fact that you're mowing them down. Like I said in my last post, I just think it's the wrong place, the wrong game.
Zzoram said:N'Gai Croal - RE5 Trailer Imagery is Racist
harSon said:Characters designs that look like they're from The Birth of a Nation?
keanerie said:A lot of you guys are replying like N'Gai's reacting at the fact that it's black people being killed in this game, when he's really talking about the portrayal of them - you know, as monstrous, shadowy, creepy things - others to Chris Redfield's buff white American self.
Capcom's playing with imagery of monsters/others and heroes/non-others in a cultural language that they've inherited and created out of their own cultural history. They don't have a racial legacy like ours - they only legacy of Black/White race relations is what they've imported from Western media as pop culture archetype. Buff white dudes are bad as hell - hmm wonder where they got that idea? - and black people are evil. It's a cultural shorthand they've been passed on that's not very much different from our "all Asian people are mystical kung fu warriors" - a profile of race that isn't correct and is offensive to a lot of people, that is all over videogames and that nobody makes a hoot about.
Anyway, I'm just saying that Croal's right for taking offense to the portrayal of black people as opposed to just the fact that you're mowing them down. Like I said in my last post, I just think it's the wrong place, the wrong game.
keanerie said:A lot of you guys are replying like N'Gai's reacting at the fact that it's black people being killed in this game, when he's really talking about the portrayal of them - you know, as monstrous, shadowy, creepy things - others to Chris Redfield's buff white American self.
Capcom's playing with imagery of monsters/others and heroes/non-others in a cultural language that they've inherited and created out of their own cultural history. They don't have a racial legacy - they only legacy of race is what they've imported from Western media as pop culture archetype. Buff white dudes are bad as hell - hmm wonder where they got that idea? - and black people are evil. It's a cultural shorthand they've been passed on that's not very much different from our "all Asian people are mystical kung fu warriors" - a profile of race that isn't correct and is offensive to a lot of people, that is all over videogames and that nobody makes a hoot about.
Anyway, I'm just saying that Croal's right for taking offense to the portrayal of black people as opposed to just the fact that you're mowing them down. Like I said in my last post, I just think it's the wrong place, the wrong game.
harSon said:I don't recall any of the zombies in Resident Evil 4 looking like:
It's Portuguese afaikkeanerie said:So, remember how creepy it was when the Ganados would scream things at you in Spanish? It was creepy not just cause it sounded horrifying, but because it was in a language you didn't understand - there's something unsettling about that, something other to use the word N'Gai picked on.
harSon said:Characters designs that look like they're from The Birth of a Nation?
Y2Kev said:They're not really zombies, and neither were the Spaniards in RE4. They don't look or act any differently than regular people except for their inexplainable desire to kill outsiders-- in this case, it happens to be the ONLY WHITE GUY within 500 miles.
Y2Kev said:Did you see 28 Days Later? What did you think of the black zombie (mind you, that WAS a textbook zombie) chained and collared to a pole?
Y2Kev said:Did you see 28 Days Later? What did you think of the black zombie (mind you, that WAS a textbook zombie) chained and collared to a pole?
Doubledex said:
Characters designs that look like they're from The Birth of a Nation?
N'Gai Croal said:There was stuff like even before the point in the trailer where the crowd turned into zombies. There sort of being, in sort of post-modern parlance, theyre sort of othered. Theyre hidden in shadows, you can barely see their eyes, and the perspective of the trailer is not even someone whos coming to help the people. Its like theyre all dangerous; they all need to be killed. Its not even like one cute African or Haitian or Caribbean child could be saved. Theyre all dangerous men, women and children. They all have to be killed. And given the history, given the not so distant post-colonial history, you would say to yourself, why would you uncritically put up those images? Its not as simple as saying, Oh, they shot Spanish zombies in Resident Evil 4, and now black zombies and thats why people are getting upset. The imagery is not the same. It doesnt carry the same history, it doesnt carry the same weight. I dont know how to explain it more clearly than that.
Hwang Seong-Gyeong said:They really need to stop this crap, what about all those games where you kill russians, vietnam people, arabs?
Deadly Monk said:I still don't see the racism remarks as being valid. I think N'Gai needs to learn about cinematography too. There's a reason why they look darker and more evil in some shots, it's called "mood". The reason they're attacking the white guy? He's holding a gun and trying to kill them because maybe they've been infected? Who knows.
They should have set this in South Carolina or the Middle East. Then we'd see how much he would've cared that your shooting BAD people.
I know! It was nothing against youZzoram said:That's the title of the GP article in the OP.
ItsInMyVeins said:I'd say N'Gai might have a point here, but I didn't react at all to that 28 Days Later thing, honestly.
Jacobi said:It's a horror game, what the hell does he expect
MikeHaggar said:i think that some people are not taking into account the nature of this game when analyzing the trailer.
Chairman Yang said:What do the "RE5 has racist imagery" proponents suggest as a solution? I mean, I can understand why N'Gai and others would feel the way they do about the trailer imagery (even if I don't have those same feelings). But what, specifically, do they actually want to happen? N'Gai mentioned he wanted the trailer changed. How? He mentioned he didn't want censorship...but then what does he want? If it's just a discussion about the race issues that the game brings up, sure, that's cool. If it's a substantive change of the game's content, then that is basically censorship, isn't it?
saelz8 said:
This is where the game is set, in either Ethiopia, or Somalia. This is where humanity was born.
Dina said:This is seriously a non-issue. Or are you implying that Chris Redfield being white against an army of blakc zombies is a secret white supremacy message?
It's not set in Haiti and you didn't even read his point.diunxx said:yeah I was expecting a lot of whites zombies in Haiti *rollseyes*.