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[DopeyFish]

This is why the NHL doesn't want mediators. When you're the irrational party you don't want a neutral side coming in and saying you need to look at other perspectives.

This isn't the drunk thread

 

[Freyjadour]

It's mind boggling why the PA wouldn't want a 10 year deal. Every time a CBA is up they lose more and more. Take a longer term, for fucks sake.

They can't even hold the Leaf's Centennial year hostage with their last proposal.

 

[CCF23]

Are you telling me the lockout will never end?

 

[Solo]

Anyways, deal will get done this summer and the NHLPA will eat shit and grin while signing a worse offer than currently out there. As predictable as a Leafs late season collapse.

 

[Marvie_3]

This is why the NHL doesn't want mediators. When you're the irrational party you don't want a neutral side coming in and saying you need to look at other perspectives.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

So, same old, same old?

 

[VALIS]

Since around October I didn't expect this to get solved this season. The NHL is looking for something other than a negotiated deal where they give up some, the players give up some, and everyone gets their NHL back. They want to break the union down like last time. It doesn't seem like they're negotiating with settlement in mind but rather total capitulation on the PA's part.

As much as it's cutting off my nose to spite my face, I so hope advertisers start pulling out en masse and the league suffers badly. The NHL was seeing record revenue and profits the last 5 years. This lockout has become the biggest joke in pro sports.

 

[Plinko]

This is why the NHL doesn't want mediators. When you're the irrational party you don't want a neutral side coming in and saying you need to look at other perspectives.

What is this I don't even

 

[Solo]

On the plus side

- Habs will have a shot at first overall in the draft lottery
- Gally NHL-ready next season

unf unf unf

 

[KingHenrik30]

It's mind boggling why the PA wouldn't want a 10 year deal. Every time a CBA is up they lose more and more. Take a longer term, for fucks sake.

They want to hold the NHL hostage during it's 100th season. They're a bunch of brigands.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

This is why the NHL doesn't want mediators. When you're the irrational party you don't want a neutral side coming in and saying you need to look at other perspectives.

are you serious?

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

This isn't the drunk thread

Fehr announces their proposal. Every outside party looks at it and says, "Huh, closer than we've ever seemed to be." NHL calls and cancels negotiations. Where's the reasonable train of thought?

 

[Kifimbo]

On the plus side

- Habs will have a shot at first overall in the draft lottery

No they won't if they use the same formula they used in 2004. Your ranking in the draft depends on your rankings in the last few seasons, not jsut the last one.

 

[CCF23]

Neither side would agree, but it really would be a fantastic time for binding arbitration in this thing.

 

[Smiley90]

Fehr announces their proposal. Every outside party looks at it and says, "Huh, closer than we've ever seemed to be." NHL calls and cancels negotiations. Where's the reasonable train of thought?

That Fehr, who represents the NHLPA, might have SLIGHTLY exaggerated how nice the NHLPA are? Seems hard to believe, I know.

 

[Solo]

Calder trophy race 2013-2014 will be insane.

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

That Fehr, who represents the NHLPA, might have SLIGHTLY exaggerated how nice the NHLPA are? Seems hard to believe, I know.

He said their terms... what was the exaggeration?

 

[DopeyFish]

Fehr announces their proposal. Every outside party looks at it and says, "Huh, closer than we've ever seemed to be." NHL calls and cancels negotiations. Where's the reasonable train of thought?

Yeah that happened last time

Until we looked at the SPECIFICS

You know, when they delinked the cap and stuff?

I fully expect the latest proposal has the same shit.

Why do you believe every thing fehr drools out of his mouth? I sure as fuck don't, considering every fucking proposal has been an atrocity

 

[bonesmccoy]

Fehr announces their proposal. Every outside party looks at it and says, "Huh, closer than we've ever seemed to be." NHL calls and cancels negotiations. Where's the reasonable train of thought?

There's a lot of assumptions in this post.

 

[Xeke]

 

[Pochacco]

I've been offline today and just went through my twitter feed.
At first, I was like:

And then I was all:

And now I'm feeling:

Time to ly down

 

[Smiley90]

He said their terms... what was the exaggeration?

What dopey said. Post the proposal if it's really so close and let the outside judge. Specifics.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

:lol Bettman and his entourage.

 

[JABEE]

Swing and a miss.

Uh wha?

Nhlpa is the one doing the dog and pony show

No. This lockout was a tactic used by the owners, not the players. This lockout benefits the owners alone. The NHL pulled the $300 million make-whole proposal off the table at the last minute.

The NHLPA is also being stupid with the years. Everyone is stupid.

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

Yeah that happened last time

Until we looked at the SPECIFICS

You know, when they delinked the cap and stuff?

I fully expect the latest proposal has the same shit.

Why do you believe every thing fehr drools out of his mouth? I sure as fuck don't, considering every fucking proposal has been an atrocity

I believe what both sides say, until proven otherwise. This is like saying why did I believe the NHL offered a real 50/50 proposal.

 

[Kifimbo]

Here we go, Bettman in the house.

 

[Fox318]

Season is over right?

 

[ActStriker]

They haven't released the details of the proposal right? Most of this happened when I was driving home so trying to catch up

 

[apocalidiot]

Bettman talking now

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/listen/

 

[Marvie_3]

Bettman talking now

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/listen/

Thanks for the link

 

[JABEE]

Bettman is shaking

 

[Heretic]

Bettman talking now

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/listen/

Thanks.

 

[Kifimbo]

Scottie Upshall ‏@ScottieUpshall
Plain and simple these owners think they can break us apart. GOOD LUCK! We r stronger than we've ever been and r behind Fehr %100.

You are also idiots.

 

[Solo]

Season is over right?

Deader than Mrs. Manics

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

What are these "key elements" Bettman is talking about? 5% variance? Ha.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

This is awesome.

 

[Quick]

Bettman mad yo

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

Bettman: We said take these provisions or go home.
Fehr: We don't want those specific provisions.
Bettman: Go home.

 

[Kifimbo]

Man, the NHL PR machine is so much better. The play-by-play by Bettman is just destroying Fehr performance. That's why he's paid millions.

 

[Solo]

Bettman laying down the truth

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Bettman with the ultimate move showing how the PA stated they were close last time as well...

 

[kassatsu]

Time to get cakebossed?

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

So wait.... the PA got everyone in a frenzy? Owners were texting media yesterday, lol!

 

[Marvie_3]

Bettman: We said take these provisions or go home.
Fehr: We don't want those specific provisions.
Bettman: Go home.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Really nice to see HFboards changing their stance, last I looked a few weeks ago they were talking about how it was all of the NHL's fault and what not. NHLPA starting to get shown for who they really are and it's not good.

 

[JABEE]

Insulting. Hahaha

 

[Solo]

NHL is systematically destroying Fehr and the PA in this interview. Glorious.

 

[Kave_Man]

To my brother Solo:

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Instead of realizing that this makes them look terrible, the players will get pissed. Watch.

 

[Hieberrr]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaammmnnnnnnnnnn.