DrunkShogun
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Do golden enemie go away because I'm doing the wandering couple mission and can't interact with the npc because it goes into battle. Only level 20 and can't be bothered taking them on as 2b.
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NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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Can anyone confirm whether 9S receives the mail from the Commander about the Resistance member and the S model he brought back getting killed in the desert in the Confidential Intel sidequest?
Supposedly only 2B gets it, and if that's true, damn, that's some attention to detail and another subtle nod to her being 2E.
It's the little things, man.
Supposedly only 2B gets it, and if that's true, damn, that's some attention to detail and another subtle nod to her being 2E.
It's the little things, man.
Wait wha...
Welp, nevermind. Just checked through one of my videos, and 9S does in fact get the mail.
Actually, I got things confused. It's the YoRHa Deserters quest that only 2B gets mails for. Duh. In hindsight, it makes sense, but it didn't really hit me until now.
Joe Molotov
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KO Traveling Hobo
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Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
That Dude John
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Well, um...the last 10 mins of getting D and E back-to-back was a rollercoaster of emotions like none other. Going from 9S remembering his birth/creation and the true purpose of the tower, to the frustration of shooting the credits and the bullet hell gets real intense deeper into the sequence, the relief of receiving encouragement and assistance from other players(?), to ultimately the conclusion that Pods 042 and 153 come to after supporting the three YoRHa units and sharing information with each other over time.
It's some really beautiful shit, fam.
It's some really beautiful shit, fam.
TheChocolateWar
Member
Just started Route B........no. I am done. I refuse to replay this. I am not a fan of this style of game design. If only steam refunds extended beyond two hours of play time. I do not feel like being story blocked behind content I have absolutely no desire to replay. I could forgive this kind of thing with Way of the Samurai where the replay didn't take more than 2 hours, but this....no.
Route B is a lot quicker than the first time and has a good amount of new content as well.
TheChocolateWar
Member
Yeah, I get that there are new sidequests solely for 9S, but I cannot abide rehashing old content like this. I uninstalled the game as soon as I found out I would be re-treading much of the same terriroty. Someone else in this thread said it amounts to something like 60% of the content being the same. Yeah, I know where to go this time around and I could probably cut my time in half, but I am not wasting darn near four hours of my life like that.
SkylineRKR
Member
I don't like 9S gameplay, so B is a low point for me as well. Good shmup parts though and lots of lore to be found. C is far better so I'd stick with it.
But I prefer how NieR 1 did it. You didn't play the whole first half again, which you're doing in B (apart from a few scenes). I wouldn't mind it if B was reduced to, say, the latter half. And then C extended to make up for it (more A2).
As great as this game is, 9S is the main char for the most time and his fighting is shit. I believe this is why EZA docked half a star and I agree.
But I prefer how NieR 1 did it. You didn't play the whole first half again, which you're doing in B (apart from a few scenes). I wouldn't mind it if B was reduced to, say, the latter half. And then C extended to make up for it (more A2).
As great as this game is, 9S is the main char for the most time and his fighting is shit. I believe this is why EZA docked half a star and I agree.
There's a lot of new sidequest, but the story has a significant amount of new stuff as well. Not only do you get more context for old stuff, but it actually diverges at some point and becomes completely new (you can probably guess where with what we know happens to 9s throughout the game.)
After that, there's no more repeated stuff.
There's new content in Route B, and everything in Route C and onwards is new.
But hey, you do you I guess...
Is the cycle stopped by ending E? I can't recall if we actually did anything to end it in either C or D. I think we got the red girls to kill themselves (I think they were the ones responsible for setting up the androids in the first place to force the machines own evolution through struggle??) but I'm not sure if there's just going to be another fake machine war in the future again with a whole new Yorha.
Machines didnt set up the androids, other androids made Yorha, both sides are perpetuating the cycle though
Oh. This is why I hate stuff getting explained during battles since I can't pay attention to both
Guess i'll watch the ending again to see what I missed
SkylineRKR
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I think it initially wasn't. But the red girls changed their mind after seeing Androids will to live. They wanted to see how far it evolved. The tower was then changed to to send data in outer space, in order to inhabit other planets. This is the main purpose of Adam and Eve, starting new life.
Mr. Smiley
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What happened to 6O?
What happened to 6O?
You already know the answer.
What happened to 6O?
"2B..."
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
What happened to 6O?
Ejected into the cold vacuum of space and/or cut down by Tuba.
DrunkShogun
Member
What happened to 6O?
Was too pure for the world. At least jackass stuck around.
I knew Jackass was the best NPC when I read her last message concerning the truth of what happened to humanity.
Mr. Smiley
Member
meh, felt way worse for 210, 6O was a clingy loser who couldn't get laid on a base full of ladies.
You just started a 6O vs 21O war!
You take that back! D:
Woosh, this game was really an emotional rollercoaster. Plenty of good laughs, likable characters and quite a few moments that made me quite emotional.
Stuff like 2B stuggling to make it to the shopping area while infected and then dying there. I honestly expected someone to swoop in and save her from the infection. Having to kill 6O who had clearly been crushing a bit on 2B. Reading up on what these particular Devola and Popola had been through and their actually programmed need to constantly seek atonement. The endgame involving Pascal's village. Walking out on Pascal was fucking savage and I honestly straight out loaded and re-did that part to grant him oblivion via memory wipe. Getting 2B's message to 9S from her Flight Unit at the coast.
Stuff like 2B stuggling to make it to the shopping area while infected and then dying there. I honestly expected someone to swoop in and save her from the infection. Having to kill 6O who had clearly been crushing a bit on 2B. Reading up on what these particular Devola and Popola had been through and their actually programmed need to constantly seek atonement. The endgame involving Pascal's village. Walking out on Pascal was fucking savage and I honestly straight out loaded and re-did that part to grant him oblivion via memory wipe. Getting 2B's message to 9S from her Flight Unit at the coast.
Wow, you jump on landmines like a professional. I've nothing against 21O, but actually shitting on 6O. Not cool.
Your loss really.
DrunkShogun
Member
She really has a way of words. That message sold me on her as well. It's a shame we didn't get more stuff on her and the commander. The commander really didn't have much of a role thinking back on it. Was a shame as well because she had unique position in the yohra business.
Lmao I was joking, mostly.
It's just 6O is cute but there really isn't much to her, like at all, she gets rejected then immediately treats 2B like a desperate rebound. 210 has much more going on and her actual end is much more tragic to me
Yea, characters like her and Devola and Popola, I would've loved to have spent more time with them.
I didn't give a shit about 210, that was the one boss fight where I didn't really feel much of anything. I'm like "Well this is awkward..." Guess it would've been aided if I did the sidequest for her though.
60 was great in that the little that was there was incredibly endearing regarding her interactions with 2B. Plus her VA is awesome lol
You aren't wrong about their ends. 6O was kind of just part of the general Operator chaff you scythe down while escaping and thus kind of blends in with the situation. 21O gets a solo send-off, doubled with the scene being about A2 once again killing someone dear to 9S. And one kind of gets the picture that 21O got the combat type change done to her so she can come to the ground and help protect 9S whom she feels protective over. So yeah, definitely more tragic and personal.
But I just liked 6Os chatter and personality more.
DrunkShogun
Member
Unfortunately for 210 she came when pascal had his moment and everyone including 2b was dead so all I could think was that it wasn't going to go any other way.
Think devola and popola were used well enough because it didn't isolate new players entering but gave the fans of the original enough exposure. Made me feel more sympathy for the original Nier twins.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
6O and 21O are both great, but 6O mostly serves as insight into life on the Bunker and to flesh out 2B. 21O asserts herself as her own character with a clearly defined arc.
In that regard, it's fitting that 6O dies unseen among the residents of the Bunker, whereas 21O gets sent off as individual.
In that regard, it's fitting that 6O dies unseen among the residents of the Bunker, whereas 21O gets sent off as individual.
TheChocolateWar
Member
My post acknowledged the new content. My problem isn't that there is new content, its that I am being forced to re-do old content and sacrifice time to get content that shouldn't be gated through a replay, in my opinion. I dislike that design style. I'm sure the content is great, I just object to that presentation style. I have better things to do that sit through that and waste my time.
Wasn't a waste of time to a lot of us, and it's pretty reductive to refer to it as gating away new content, but like I said, you do you lol
Yea...
What did everyone think of how they handled Devola and Popola here? I loved how they played with expectations and made them good. Their relationship was really well done and the visual novel part about their life and how they suffered because of the models in the original Nier was pretty heartbreaking.
Via Purifico
Banned
Just finished Route A. Man, what a game.
Perfection. That novel was the best part of the game for me.
They got me good. I did a sidequest for them, and completing it gave out ominous music, which further led me to believe that they were ultimately up to no good. So to have all of that subverted was just genius, and made them perfect sense, because yea, I could easily envision a world where they'd be endlessly discriminated just for looking like the ones from the first game. What pissed me off though that was the part of how they programmed them to feel eternally guilty over this; just fucked up, and yet it is a rather effective "punishment" considering they are androids.
Said programmed guilt also leads them to help 9S out, which is ironic in its own way, because 9S intended on getting rid of everything, meaning they would've essentially fucked up again if he got his way. Also loved how this time around, Popola died first.
I wish we got some more time with them. Didn't have to be be too much, maybe see them as much as we did with Jackass and the Commander. I felt like that was the one thing that people who hadn't played/watched the first game would appreciate nearly as much, especially if they missed out on the sidequest.
I thought it was great. Perfect use of their little screen time. Very satisfied with it.
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