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[frankie_baby]

Actually, according to NPD, NDS (51.4 million) has outpaced PS2 (46.4 million) LTD as of January 2012's reporting period.

The ds has outsold the ps2 in all major game buying countries though i think the ps2 is sold in more countries overall so is slightly ahead

 

[Naked Snake]

<3 3DS

I knew it would kick ass. Looking forward for the inevitable onslaught of 1st and 3rd party goodness in the years to come.

In the long-term, I reckon the 3DS library will be one of the most cherished in my collection.

 

[Byakuya769]

I don't think anyone is saying the Wii should have launched at a demand killing price - say, $599. However, I think it's pretty clear Nintendo could have continued selling out Wii's at say, twenty more dollars a box. Because Nintendo underpriced the console, they lost millions of dollars.

$20? Why not $25, $39, $57.93, or $82.39!?!

 

[botty]

<3 3DS

I knew it would kick ass. Looking forward for the inevitable onslaught of 1st and 3rd party goodness in the years to come.

In the long-term, I reckon the 3DS library will be one of the most cherished in my collection.

I feel as though the 3DS could be the second coming of the PS2 in terms of software. If that makes sense.

 

[Petrae]

The ds has outsold the ps2 in all major game buying countries though i think the ps2 is sold in more countries overall so is slightly ahead

This thread is centered around US numbers and data, so that's why I pulled these figures. NDS has been outpacing PS2 here for quite some time.

 

[idwl]

The ds has outsold the ps2 in all major game buying countries though i think the ps2 is sold in more countries overall so is slightly ahead

Plus the ps2 has an extra 5 years of sales against the ds. So ds is definitely the fastest selling video games system ever right?

 

[frankie_baby]

Plus the ps2 has an extra 5 years of sales against the ds. So ds is definitely the fastest selling video games system ever right?

Oh yes, by a very long way

 

[Anteo]

The only problem with all the "SECOND STICK 3DSi LOL" argument is; current games that utilise the CPP work strictly through Infrared connection.

They'd either have to patch all those titles or have an internal infrared sensor, which would be fucking stupid.

They could do something in the firmware of the 3dsxl so it "thinks" it has an infrared port and it's currently equiped with a ccp.

Anyways, I don't think we will get a 3dscppxl at all, how many games support the cpp? like 4?

 

[Bruno MB]

Bundles

Without bundles SM3DL figures would probable be below MK7 but not by a wide margin, maybe as it happens in Japan. It's a pity we don't have any way to know it.

btw, there will be bundles for SM3DL too there xD

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Whats the actual number for DS in year 2 since thats the target everyone is quick to question?

I'm interested in this too. Any SalesGAF people have the DS numbers after 2 years?

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

So Nintendo is doomed then right

 

[Kazerei]

Whats the actual number for DS in year 2 since thats the target everyone is quick to question?

Here are hardware shipments

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1112.pdf
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/xls/consolidated_sales_e1112.xls

EDIT: It's not really comparable to NPD sales figures, but basically,

Fiscal year ending March 2005: 2.19 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2006: 2.92 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2007: 6.63 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2008: 10.65 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2009: 12.07 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2010: 12.29 MM units shipped
Fiscal year ending March 2011: 8.39 MM units shipped

Note that the DS launched in November 2004, and the DS Lite launched in June 2006. These numbers are for "the Americas"

EDIT2: So I guess the question is if the 3DS can reach the 10MM+/year height that the DS achieved. It's looking pretty good so far.

 

[Gospel]

So Nintendo is doomed then right

This joke sucks

 

[frankie_baby]

They could do something in the firmware of the 3dsxl so it "thinks" it has an infrared port and it's currently equiped with a ccp.

Anyways, I don't think we will get a 3dscppxl at all, how many games support the cpp? like 4?

It'd be difficult to do in firmware as it'd need someway to switch between frankenstick mode and non frankenstick mode and also the frankenstick replaces one of the existing shoulder buttons i can see that being difficult to get round

Yeah i'm sure they will make frankensticks for the revisions if for no other reason than mh4 will assumedly support it

 

[ffdgh]

This joke sucks

its not a joke, its apart of life......sadly lol

 

[Zzoram]

I won't consider one until Pokemon 3DS and a new revision are out.

 

[jvm]

I'm interested in this too. Any SalesGAF people have the DS numbers after 2 years?

You mean 24 months? I have 6.6 million at the end of October 2006 in the U.S. Is that what people want?

 

[Mpl90]

You mean 24 months? I have 6.6 million at the end of October 2006 in the U.S. Is that what people want?

I think so. So, it'll easily surpass first DS' two years. I mean, it needs "just" 2.1 millions to surpass them, and with no doubt it'll do more than that just this Christmas XD
So, the REAL challenge will start in the third year, I suppose.

 

[Kazerei]

You mean 24 months? I have 6.6 million at the end of October 2006 in the U.S. Is that what people want?

Can you give us the sum from March 2005 to February 2007 inclusive? Basically cut out the 2004 holiday season and replace with the 2006 holiday season.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Truth. It still needs this year (at least) to do it.

Nope. 2 mill more and DS passes it. 151.06 vs 153.19

My unserious point is that it's not a video game system, but a computer entertainment system.

But more seriously, DS has slowed down a lot, especially with the 3DS price drop giving little reason to get a DS instead. It's still up in the air which will end up ahead when their tails are complete.

The only problem with all the "SECOND STICK 3DSi LOL" argument is; current games that utilise the CPP work strictly through Infrared connection.

They'd either have to patch all those titles or have an internal infrared sensor, which would be fucking stupid.

It should be completely within their control to make a toggleable "CPP mode" that just treats the second stick/shoulder data internally as if it's coming in from the infrared, without actually needing an internal infrared sensor.

Plus the ps2 has an extra 5 years of sales against the ds. So ds is definitely the fastest selling video games system ever right?

At least after passing Wii up 3-4 years in.

 

[jvm]

Can you give us the sum from March 2005 to February 2007 inclusive? Basically cut out the 2004 holiday season and replace with the 2006 holiday season.

My records say 8.34 million from March 2005 to February 2007, including the end months.

 

[Celine]

Good work Yamauchi.

 

[Kazerei]

My records say 8.34 million from March 2005 to February 2007, including the end months.

Thanks. At this rate the 3DS should be able to surpass that mark too.

 

[Celine]

But more seriously, DS has slowed down a lot, especially with the 3DS price drop giving little reason to get a DS instead. It's still up in the air which will end up ahead when their tails are complete.

I don't think Nintendo really care to support a system beyond a certain point.
They are more concerned that the new platform get a good penetration so to sell the next wave of games.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

You mean 24 months? I have 6.6 million at the end of October 2006 in the U.S. Is that what people want?

I think so but...

My records say 8.34 million from March 2005 to February 2007, including the end months.

...this is good too. The 3DS definitely in good shape as long as they can keep the momentum and avoid a second year slump. Thanks!

 

[frankie_baby]

So if we're looking at about 250k for feb it'll be hilarious if it beats vitas debut

 

[Vic]

I'm so glad they were wrong. I was genuinely concerned that mobile phone games would kill off the dedicated handheld market and I'm relieved that it has not come to pass.

I've felt sadness when some people tried to push the idea that handhelds were having their last breath but it just never made any logical sense for it to happen.

 

[Vic]

Not really, they can just jack up the prices of the memory cards more to cover it.

I'm pretty sure this will create a backlash against the platform.

 

[Cipherr]

So if we're looking at about 250k for feb it'll be hilarious if it beats vitas debut

I'd rather it didn't. The thread would be poisoned before it even started.

OTOH though, happy to see the systems success, and a staggeringly silent treatment from so many of those who were so vocal just mere months ago about 3DS and Vita both having no chance in the face of smartphones. Funny how most of those guys stick to the Vita threads specifically now since its having growing pains at the moment, and pretend the 3DS no longer exists.

 

[Gravijah]

npd is this thursday right

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

npd is this thursday right

Why does it matter? It's not like we'll be getting hardware numbers anyway.

 

[AceBandage]

I'd rather it didn't. The thread would be poisoned before it even started.

It was poisoned the moment Sony chose which month to launch the system in.

 

[Gravijah]

Why does it matter? It's not like we'll be getting hardware numbers anyway.

it doesn't matter at all.

 

[Plinko]

So if we're looking at about 250k for feb it'll be hilarious if it beats vitas debut

Full month vs. half/quarter month (depending on version). It would mean nothing.

 

[Kazerei]

So if we're looking at about 250k for feb it'll be hilarious if it beats vitas debut

Hmm... it could happen. All we know so far about Vita is 1.2 million worldwide minus 0.6 million from Japan.

 

[Kjellson]

Holy hell. :lol This picture is absolutely amazing. I'll have to remember that for E3.

 

[frankie_baby]

Full month vs. half/quarter month (depending on version). It would mean nothing.

Wether vita had a full month or not its still its debut month and if the launch of a system gets beaten by a february of its rival then thats pretty big

 

[frankie_baby]

Hmm... it could happen. All we know so far about Vita is 1.2 million worldwide minus 0.6 million from Japan.

And that 1.2 million has been sounding dodgier and dodgier every day

 

[Boney]

Wether vita had a full month or not its still its debut month and if the launch of a system gets beaten by a february of its rival then thats pretty big

DS beat 3DS at it's debut month.

 

[frankie_baby]

DS beat 3DS at it's debut month.

Cant remember that happening but pretty hilarious too

 

[Rat Salad]

Wether vita had a full month or not its still its debut month and if the launch of a system gets beaten by a february of its rival then thats pretty big

You spelled whether wrong.

 

[frankie_baby]

You spelled whether wrong.

Didnt know gaf had the spelling police these days

 

[Gospel]

its not a joke, its apart of life......sadly lol

But it's just so played out though.

I mean, if you've gotta do it, at least post one of the funnier variants of it.

 

[Boney]

Cant remember that happening but pretty hilarious too

It did have B&W launch at early March, but it's not as who beats who, but if Vita opens at sub 300k it'd be terrible.

 

[NateDrake]

Cant remember that happening but pretty hilarious too

DS sold 460k & 3DS moved 400k.

 

[Father_Brain]

So if we're looking at about 250k for feb it'll be hilarious if it beats vitas debut

Bigger potential huge NPD thread generator: DSi>Vita. No chance of that happening in February, of course, but by April, I wouldn't be shocked.

 

[frankie_baby]

It did have B&W launch at early March, but it's not as who beats who, but if Vita opens at sub 300k it'd be terrible.

With the level of the numbers from other countries i doubt vita will be anywhere close to 300k

 

[frankie_baby]

Bigger potential huge NPD thread generator: DSi>Vita. No chance of that happening in February, of course, but by April, I wouldn't be shocked.

Anyone know what sort of numbers the dsi has been pulling in lately?

 

[Kazerei]

nm

 

[Parmenides]

So, has any major system in history sold worse in year 2 than year 1?

The PSP comes to mind

Have any other systems done 4.5m US thier first NPD year? Like PS2, GBA or Wii maybe?

GBA/Wii

Plus the ps2 has an extra 5 years of sales against the ds. So ds is definitely the fastest selling video games system ever right?

Yes,and it's not even close...

However,PlayStation home consoles have incredible sales stamina due to strong emerging market demand

Truth. It still needs this year (at least) to do it.

Nope. 2 mill more and DS passes it. 151.06 vs 153.19

It's 154.4 (sell-in) vs 151.06



I don't know what to say;it's hard to predict

2011-- Hardware Shipments

NDS 6.46 m (LTD: 151.06)

PS2 4.7 m (LTD: 154.4)