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Nintendo at E3: are you in denial?

Nintendo Directs suck at getting the word out past the hardcore. For the lifetime of the Wii U people thought it was a Wii add in. Directs are failures.

They need a better way.

The Wii U was unveiled at a press conference and Nintendo Directs are covered by 3rd party outlets (where most people get video game news) just as much as its live conferences. Please try again.
 
So...do you still think they will announce Mother 3 in English or is that a lost cause?

After the EarthBound Beginnings seemed to be a relatively big announcement for them last year, they're probably saving an announcement for around E3. However, I still expect them to not budge on being Zelda only during E3, and Mother 3'll only be announced as a last ditch attempt to drum up some hype if/when people get vocal about feeling underwhelmed.
 
It's been a few months now since the announcement, but I still refuse to believe that Nintendo will ONLY showcase Zelda Wii U.

In my mind, I think that Nintendo will also demo other key games (Yo-kai Watch 2, Dragon Quest VII, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, etc) and maybe release SOMETHING about NX.

I mean it's E3, you can't go there with ONE game. It's just not realistic.

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Nope! :P
 
You know what could be worse than this year's E3...next year's E3.

Neo and Scorpio are likely to be more powerful than the NX, those two consoles will probably be the choice of developers and publishers over the NX. And since Nintendo always has trouble with software shortly after console launches....next year's E3 could amazing for Nintendo for all the wrong reasons.
 
You know what could be worse than this year's E3...next year's E3.

Neo and Scorpio are likely to be more powerful than the NX, those two consoles will probably be the choice of developers and publishers over the NX. And since Nintendo always has trouble with software shortly after console launches....next year's E3 could amazing for Nintendo for all the wrong reasons.

That sounds like every E3 for Nintendo.

Just replace the consoles with whatever is being showcased at the moment.
 
I'm going in with zero expectations. Not paying attention to the rumors, ignoring what they're telling me...just gonna judge it on its own. Because the moment you get lured into all the GAF hype/hate, you're gonna get let down.
 
This is starting to sound like a better and better decision given all that Microsoft/Sony are rumored to have lined up for E3 on the hardware front.

Not really. PS4K, PSVR and Xbox 1.5 are just incremental upgrades and peripherals for existing hardware. In the case of PSVR, we're not even looking at a product reveal as it already had multiple (sometimes questionable) showings at previous trade events. If that's all it takes to overshadow the reveal of Nintendo's brand new console, then the NX doesn't sound too promising.
 
...no, I don't think the company is lying to us in a way that could only hurt them. Why would anyone think they are?
 
Not holding out hope but maybe, JUST maybe, they will give a sneak peek at what the NX version of Zelda will look like. I mean like a 10 second video of screen panning.
 
Not holding out hope but maybe, JUST maybe, they will give a sneak peek at what the NX version of Zelda will look like. I mean like a 10 second video of screen panning.

I mean, don't expect the NX version of Zelda to look much different (if at all) from the Wii U version. A sneak peek is reduntant at this point.
 
I'm still wondering what's the strategy here. You got a biiiig Zelda game incoming and it will be way more useful and decisive for the new born NX than the dead WiiU. Especially that if there is a logic, the NX version should be the version to show off, the most beautiful and faithful to the dev vision.

So... What's the point in focusing entirely on the WiiU version at the biggest event of the year..

It's like they do that by some sort of loyalty to the fans, even when it's against any kind of strategic sense..
 
Mother 3'll only be announced as a last ditch attempt to drum up some hype if/when people get vocal about feeling underwhelmed.

How can people NOT be underwhelmed?

They are bringing one freaking game. I'm sure it will be awesome, but it's still one game.
 
I've never had expectations that low for a nintendo E3.

I expect what they'll show of Zelda will be underwhelming at best, and pretty "beta". They'll probably collect feedback for 3 days though.

That's the only reason for them not skipping E3 2016 altogether I can imagine.
 
How can people NOT be underwhelmed?

They are bringing one freaking game. I'm sure it will be awesome, but it's still one game.

It is just one game...but I'd take that one game over their disaster of a Digital Event last year (where pretty much every announcement either underwhelmed..or even offended their fanbase in the case of Federation Force).

The only way Nintendo can do worse at E3 this year is if Zelda Wii U turns out to be a party board game.
 
I'm still wondering what's the strategy here. You got a biiiig Zelda game incoming and it will be way more useful and decisive for the new born NX than the dead WiiU. Especially that if there is a logic, the NX version should be the version to show off, the most beautiful and faithful to the dev vision.

So... What's the point in focusing entirely on the WiiU version at the biggest event of the year..

It's like they do that by some sort of loyalty to the fans, even when it's against any kind of strategic sense..

A developer's vision isn't only about graphics especially in Nintendo's case.
 
2014 was pretty good I thought

2011 was clearly their last good conference, even if it wasn't perfect.

Nintendo goes in a 4 year cycle

2006, 2010 and 2014 were incredible conferences
2007, 2011 and 2015 were decent
2008, 2012 were terrible
2009, 2013 were decent

And it seems they want to keep the tradition with this year.
 
It is just one game...but I'd take that one game over their disaster of a Digital Event last year (where pretty much every announcement either underwhelmed..or even offended their fanbase in the case of Federation Force).

The only way Nintendo can do worse at E3 this year is if Zelda Wii U turns out to be a party board game.

If it doesnt have the car movement I will take it....
 
I don't think Nintendo belongs at E3 to begin with, in the same way Rovio has no presence at E3 but Angry Birds is still a very successful franchise; there's an audience mismatch between those who tune in to watch the latest spectacle games and the people who Nintendo wants to target with the NX.
 
I'm still wondering what's the strategy here. You got a biiiig Zelda game incoming and it will be way more useful and decisive for the new born NX than the dead WiiU. Especially that if there is a logic, the NX version should be the version to show off, the most beautiful and faithful to the dev vision.

So... What's the point in focusing entirely on the WiiU version at the biggest event of the year..

It's like they do that by some sort of loyalty to the fans, even when it's against any kind of strategic sense..

I'd think the main problem with showing off the NX version is that you'd likely need the NX hardware or dev kit to be present at E3 in some form, when it appears that the hardware is still many months from being ready.

Maybe they can show off NX footage in a trailer, but if they want the Zelda they're showing to the public to be the same Zelda which is playable on the floor, I doubt they could make that work for the NX version.
 
Look where they are now and look where Sony is. E3 can make or break you and I think it's been pretty foolish of Nintendo to not give it their all every year.

I'm not saying its a good decision. I think dedicating your E3 to a last-gen version of Zelda is a pretty terrible one. Most Nintendo fans I know feel the same.

I'm just saying that ever since journalists came away from E3 2011 somehow believing that Wii U was anything other than the New Console Nintendo explicitly said they'd announce, they've stopped caring about being on the E3 stage for big announcements and preferred to announce things on their own terms.
 
Nintendo had been doing great for 30 or so years in games. Before then, they used to make toys. Maybe history is repeating it's self and the Amiibos is a sign that they are moving away from gaming as a main priority. They know NX isn't going to blow people away, so they are trying to ease away into mobile and health. Having one game at E3 is body language for, sorry, but we're not interest as we used to be. Zelda is our Phantom Pain. Konami, Sega have already taken the plunge. We worked on games in the early days just like them. Let Sony, and MS do the modern stuff.
 
It'll suck. I've accepted that. Thankfully Nintendo will still have a real showing of the NX etc. at a later date. It's not like E3 is the only opportunity to show games.
 
Nintendo had been doing great for 30 or so years in games. Before then, they used to make toys. Maybe history is repeating it's self and the Amiibos is a sign that they are moving away from gaming as a main priority. They know NX isn't going to blow people away, so they are trying to ease away into mobile and health. Having one game at E3 is body language for, sorry, but we're not interest as we used to be. Zelda is our Phantom Pain. Konami, Sega have already taken the plunge. We worked on games in the early days just like them. Let Sony, and MS do the modern stuff.

Nintendo isn't selling toys, they are selling nostalgia and collectibles to their fandom. If Nintendo was selling general toys to children, that would be an entirely different business model. One that would tank when kids are grabbing tablets at the age of 4.

Also, Nintendo didn't sell toys in the manner you elude. They sold family board games, go and chess boards, toy puzzles, and kind of random gadgets. It was also for a very small time. Their main span has always been hanafuda cards and video games.
 
Denial of what, exactly?

Nintendo has one game they want to show at E3 this year, so they're showing that one game. It's not a complicated concept to grasp.
 
My expectations for the last few Nintendo E3's have been extremely low, and they've managed to underwhelm me every year still. This year the ONLY thing I wanted to see was an NX reveal just to see what it is they'll be coming out with next. Once they said that was not gonna happen, I lost all interest in anything they'll show.

Not really. PS4K, PSVR and Xbox 1.5 are just incremental upgrades and peripherals for existing hardware. In the case of PSVR, we're not even looking at a product reveal as it already had multiple (sometimes questionable) showings at previous trade events. If that's all it takes to overshadow the reveal of Nintendo's brand new console, then the NX doesn't sound too promising.

Agreed. Just makes me believe whatever the NX is it's just not ready to be shown in any form. IMHO I doubt they'll even make that proposed March 2017 release date.
 
Nintendo isn't selling toys, they are selling nostalgia and collectibles to their fandom. If Nintendo was selling general toys to children, that would be an entirely different business model. One that would tank when kids are grabbing tablets at the age of 4.

Also, Nintendo didn't sell toys in the manner you elude. They sold family board games, go and chess boards, toy puzzles, and kind of random gadgets. It was also for a very small time. Their main span has always been hanafuda cards and video games.

I'm not saying they shifted, I'm saying this may be a sign of them dabbling so they can transition into something else.
 
I'm hungry enough for Zelda Wii U that I'm satisfied with it being their only game at E3. I'm not exactly dying of curiosity over the NX or whatever else they're working on. *shrug*
 
You know what could be worse than this year's E3...next year's E3.

Neo and Scorpio are likely to be more powerful than the NX, those two consoles will probably be the choice of developers and publishers over the NX. And since Nintendo always has trouble with software shortly after console launches....next year's E3 could amazing for Nintendo for all the wrong reasons.

I dont think developers will throw away the current ps4 or xbox owners. Creating games for 2 different consoles is not realistic. Those new version consoles were created for playing vr games. Which i still think it would not be succes for gaming or watching full length movies...

I'm ok that nintendo their focus is now on nx. Had much more fun with my wii u compared to gc.
 
Well they were pretty clear that Zelda will be the only playable game on the floor and I don't think there will be a digital event apart from the Zelda stuff with Reggie. So it will be all about Zelda and TBH, with NX off the table, I don't think they have much to announce. Clearly, most of their development resources are focused on the upcoming console and since they have decided not to speak about it at E3, no NX games can be announced.

Of course, important Nintendo employees will be interviewed and they will be asked about NX and other games. While they'll give evasive answers I'm certain we'll have threads analyzing their vague responses. So there's that to look forward to.

I'm OK with the Zelda blowout though. I want to stop calling it Zelda Wii U. With a whole show dedicated to it, we can't possibly come away without knowing the subtitle. We'll see a more polished build and get an idea of the gameplay. How will 3D Zelda controls work after SS? Is it back to OoT style or have they put in a spin on that for Zelda Wii U. Were the voiced NPC claims true? How will open-world Zelda work, generally? I'll be happy for some answers.
 
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